Post Match Raiders v Warriors - [Round 1, 2025]

[mrblonde]

There is a big difference between having the 7 on your jersey and bring able to play 7.

Good point. How often did SJ The Second actually play like a 7 ie organise rather than run (or whatever the hell it is a 7 is meant to do)?

 

[Boston Boy]

Our pack were out muscled for large portions of that game but our halves were completely lost. We had plenty of opportunities in the opposition 20.

A little grim when your issues are your pack and your halves because our backs sure aren't going to be scoring points out of nothing. It's also hard to start making changes this early! You start to blow the teams confidence. We don't really have many options in the forwards. I guess Bunty and Laban add some size, but Laban doesn't really play big, and Bunty uses his size as an absorbing defender rather than an aggressive deterrent.

I would go TMM instead of CHT to be honest, I would get TMM to run the attack and Metcalf to kick. I would also probably look to find some room for Healey?
Doesn't sort the lack of punch in the forwards, but perhaps get the young (Halasima, Demitric) ones on earlier?

 

[jumpman5xl]

I know Webby would ultimately has his 'redemption' team which means same as this. but this would be my team.
1. Tuaupiki
2. RTS
3. CNK
4. Leiataua
5. Kali
6. Metcalf
7. TMM
8. JFH
9. Egan
10. Barnett
11. Capewell
12. Laban
13. Clark

14. CHT/Boyd
15. Vaimauga
16. Halasima
17. Niukore

 

[Dannevegas]

Everyone having a go at the halves is misplaced, The gameplan was shit, Mr aura and our pack got rolled, and our backs were no match with there youth and speed. Don’t like being negative but what does Fish bring? Especially for his price tag, hardly see him run at someone his size or bigger looks for the 9 every run

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Unless we make drastic changes to 9,11,12,13 and our bench use, then we are done for the season.

If that happens then I hope it’s Webbys last.

Our 8 and 10 were dominated as well.
We lost the tackle and the ruck. We got bent and had to commit more players to tackles.

 

[~Navigator~]

So we finally get to play in Vegas,
The gambling capital and the Warriors decide to play CRAPS.

FMD it's going to be a long season
How long to the off season will be the most asked question this year if they keep playing like that.

 

[Dantheman]

You know it’s bad when people think Boyd is the answer

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Everyone having a go at the halves is misplaced, The gameplan was shit, Mr aura and our pack got rolled, and our backs were no match with there youth and speed. Don’t like being negative but what does Fish bring? Especially for his price tag, hardly see him run at someone his size or bigger looks for the 9 every run

Mr. Aura can't do it by himself. The pack got out muscled, bullied

 

[jumpman5xl]

Tough watch. A couple of lucky tries from Canberra, a couple begging from us which would have flattered the score line a little more.

Feels like raiders had a plan and got away with it (pushing up in the line, slowing down ruck excessively, pushing up off the mark hard) and I don’t think they get away with any of that vs a team like Cronulla who will shred your edges if you do that, or a storm/manly/penrith who will just pepper the ball behind your line all day.

Anyway, Vegas is silly. Hope we can bounce back, we’ve got some weird combinations at the moment. Struggling to find a place for CNK in my team at this rate

I was thinking that as I was watching it too. That they were lying down alot longer than we were. Same with their line speed. And no offside penalties

 

[Boston Boy]

I know Webby would ultimately has his 'redemption' team which means same as this. but this would be my team.
1. Tuaupiki
2. RTS
3. CNK
4. Leiataua
5. Kali
6. Metcalf
7. TMM
8. JFH
9. Egan
10. Barnett
11. Capewell
12. Laban
13. Clark

14. CHT
15. Vaimauga
16. Halasima
17. Niukore

I like the backline. I would go that but with Healey at 14 and Walker 17. CHT is so difficult, he offers so much promise but I believe his best position is 14, however I think Healey adds more spark on attack. So CHT for me is now our second best 14.

 

[mrblonde]

Doesn't sort the lack of punch in the forwards, but perhaps get the young (Halasima, Demitric) ones on earlier?

My inclination is one Senior Middle and one Junior Middle on at all times. So I'd interchange JFH with MB, LH with DV. Attitudes like that are probably why I've never coached league at any level, but anyway...

 

[Dannevegas]

Mr. Aura can't do it by himself. The pack got out muscled, bullied

Didn’t do anything Barnett and Clark outplayed him by far

 

[Boston Boy]

Our 8 and 10 were dominated as well.
We lost the tackle and the ruck. We got bent and had to commit more players to tackles.

But how do other teams lie all over us so much? Is it just me?

 

[jumpman5xl]

Tough watch. A couple of lucky tries from Canberra, a couple begging from us which would have flattered the score line a little more.

Feels like raiders had a plan and got away with it (pushing up in the line, slowing down ruck excessively, pushing up off the mark hard) and I don’t think they get away with any of that vs a team like Cronulla who will shred your edges if you do that, or a storm/manly/penrith who will just pepper the ball behind your line all day.

Anyway, Vegas is silly. Hope we can bounce back, we’ve got some weird combinations at the moment. Struggling to find a place for CNK in my team at this rate

I was thinking that as I was watching it too. That they were lying down alot longer than we were. Same with their line speed. And no offside penalties

I like the backline. I would go that but with Healey at 14 and Walker 17. CHT is so difficult, he offers so much promise but I believe his best position is 14, however I think Healey adds more spark on attack. So CHT for me is now our second best 14.

I like Healey at 14 however if our forwards aren't going forward it slows his running game which is his best attribute.

 

[~Navigator~]

Well we have 2 weeks hopefully we see our first grade team play at home not the NSW knock on effect team like this week

 

[Po11um]

The warriors won't be invited back next year

 

[Tohu’s_Knees]

I know people are going to be fuming, but to be honest that was largely the worst case scenario.

Nothing planned our for us today.
Funnily enough, if you look at the stats at the moment and of the game, things were largely 50/50 across the board. We were no better or worse in run meters, completed sets, kicks etc but there were a few key areas we fucked up imo
-Charnz had a shocker.
-LM's kicking was poor and gave us no chance to compete.
-Bench use was poor. We were clearly tired at one point but no changes. Leka and Vaumunga looked good, they would have looked great 30 minutes in...
-zero go forward. Anyone doubting us requiring someone like Hazleton or a big guy can fuck off. Fish, Ford and Barnett had very little impact early on, that's just too small a front row.

For me, we were pretty much dog shit, with taken very very poor performances. The good news is we have so much upside and things to improve.

We essentially had 3 tries (Starling break, 90m Savage intercept and CNK dropped ball) gifted to them. 3 tries were 1 poor errors cost us 18 points.

We certainly werent good enough today but man, I can't believe the wanking off of the Raiders by the commentators.

You reckon we should move towards a size based forward pack and bench?

 

[Beastmode]

The warriors won't be invited back next year

Game was a PR disaster

 

[~Navigator~]

The warriors won't be invited back next year

I wouldn't say that as cash talks, all our fans and the money they spent were a cash cow

 

[Beastmode]

I wouldn't say that as cash talks, all our fans and the money they spent were a cash cow

Totally off topic but
It’s crazy how Vegas doesn’t have their own NBA or American football team ..