Post Match Raiders v Warriors - [Round 1, 2025]

[Inruin]

It's a long wait for Jet to arrive.

Watching the Sharkies game, they've got our best players, Addin and Ronaldo. Why does nobody want to take our money, the selfish bastards!

We have a 7 already that goes pretty good as a ball player until Jett arrives but I guess he hasn't invited Webby fishing

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Ultra conservative coach and game plan has sucked out any joy of watching this team.

But all pre season I've heard about eyes up footy. But no.... High kick and chase

 

[Zaggo]

I feel like it already is a little bit i would look at laben starting for Nikuora and more from the bench, not sure why laben gets selected for all stars but not even the top 25 for vegas

To be fair, All Stars is more about who is available. Zach Dockar-Clay was the first pick half and I doubt he'll be setting the NRL alight.

 

[Worried2Death]

But all pre season I've heard about eyes up footy. But no.... High kick and chase

Luke said we weren't showing our full hand in the trials, wonder when we'll see the real gameplan?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Luke said we weren't showing our full hand in the trials, wonder when we'll see the real gameplan?

Week 22 when we can’t make the finals.

 

[Inruin]

Week 22 when we can’t make the finals.

And half the team has changed

 

[defensivebomb]

I feel about $6,000 richer today, after not travelling to Vegas to watch that

Every cloud…

 

[Inruin]

But all pre season I've heard about eyes up footy. But no.... High kick and chase

We keep hearing about how they have looked at successful teams and they all do these x things well so we are focused on that too. The problem is that it appears we are forgetting about the main stat successful teams do which is scoring more points than the opposition.

 

[RiceOwl]

I'm a glass half full kind of person, and I have spent the past couple of hours really trying to find some positives but geez after that performance it is incredibly difficult to do so.

The disappointing parts for me have largely been covered off by many here, but I struggle to see how they weren't more up for this game. There was the odd set where they showed some intent on defence, but there just wasn't enough of it. Your attitude often shows through in your defence, and that certainly did today with the amount of missed tackles, which were atrocious.

Agree on Capewell sadly. I like the guy, and I appreciate how good of a player he can be at times, but I haven't seen him play to his ceiling often with a Warriors jersey on.

Another guy I like is CNK, but I did think the experiment with TMM at the back, CNK to centre was a shrewd option in the trials. It now seems that should be the scenario moving forward at least until DWZ returns. With attack that poor, you need players on the field that can create and TMM is that kind of guy.

However, as terrible of a performance as that was I do think some are being overly harsh on JFH. He got through a ton of work in that first stanza and seemed to be the only one holding the middle together. To be calling him out for this trash performance is misplaced. Did he make 200+ yards like AFB, no, but that is not the type of player he is.

Walker off the bench was fantastic I thought. Jury is still out on LM at 7 for me as well. I wish the kid well with it and he showed in the trials there is something to work with there but under the spotlight of the true NRL and not trials he failed to deliver tonight. Will give him some more time, but will need to improve.

100% agree on calling out the bench use as well. This year I hoped for 2 things 1) to make the 8 (albeit thought/hoped we would scrape in), and 2) see the development of these young guns that we are growing. But playing Halasima and Vaimaunga for such limited minutes was baffling to me. Although I think the way Ali played today showed you do have to show some caution as young players often are two steps forward one step back, so need to be carefully managed. However, their use was poor.

I do hope those that did make it over for it enjoyed themselves in Vegas and with the wider spectacle of the event. Ah well, onto the Sea Eagles.

 

[Inruin]

I'm a glass half full kind of person, and I have spent the past couple of hours really trying to find some positives but geez after that performance it is incredibly difficult to do so.

The disappointing parts for me have largely been covered off by many here, but I struggle to see how they weren't more up for this game. There was the odd set where they showed some intent on defence, but there just wasn't enough of it. Your attitude often shows through in your defence, and that certainly did today with the amount of missed tackles, which were atrocious.

Agree on Capewell sadly. I like the guy, and I appreciate how good of a player he can be at times, but I haven't seen him play to his ceiling often with a Warriors jersey on.

Another guy I like is CNK, but I did think the experiment with TMM at the back, CNK to centre was a shrewd option in the trials. It now seems that should be the scenario moving forward at least until DWZ returns. With attack that poor, you need players on the field that can create and TMM is that kind of guy.

However, as terrible of a performance as that was I do think some are being overly harsh on JFH. He got through a ton of work in that first stanza and seemed to be the only one holding the middle together. To be calling him out for this trash performance is misplaced. Did he make 200+ yards like AFB, no, but that is not the type of player he is.

Walker off the bench was fantastic I thought. Jury is still out on LM at 7 for me as well. I wish the kid well with it and he showed in the trials there is something to work with there but under the spotlight of the true NRL and not trials he failed to deliver tonight. Will give him some more time, but will need to improve.

100% agree on calling out the bench use as well. This year I hoped for 2 things 1) to make the 8 (albeit thought/hoped we would scrape in), and 2) see the development of these young guns that we are growing. But playing Halasima and Vaimaunga for such limited minutes was baffling to me. Although I think the way Ali played today showed you do have to show some caution as young players often are two steps forward one step back, so need to be carefully managed. However, their use was poor.

I do hope those that did make it over for it enjoyed themselves in Vegas and with the wider spectacle of the event. Ah well, onto the Sea Eagles.

With Ali, he should be the cream on the top but instead we are just giving him the ball and expecting him to be Mal Meninga. Zero creativity from our halves to put him in to space and use his talents.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Although I think the way Ali played today showed you do have to show some caution as young players often are two steps forward one step back, so need to be carefully managed. .

I can give him a little leeway for being so raw. Pompey though, jeez.

 

[RiceOwl]

With Ali, he should be the cream on the top but instead we are just giving him the ball and expecting him to be Mal Meninga. Zero creativity from our halves to put him in to space and use his talents.

Have to agree with you there and also Frank re: being raw. I have no doubt he will be great given time, but I suppose my point is just managing these young bucks can be difficult some times. Even so, use of the bench with Halasima and Vaimaunga was rubbish today.

 

[Worried2Death]

Fuck you Vegas, corrupt fake city run by the Russian mafia, hope we never go back. I'm not bitter.

 

[Beastmode]

It’s been a long day

Aye fellas,

Don’t forget to take your antidepressant pills before bed tonight

Up the Wahs!

 

[Falcon]

My biggest gripe with this game as many have pointed out and I thought was a problem last year was the use of the bench, or mismanagement of it.

In my mind at the 20 min mark the team were under the pump defensively and had only had 35% of the ball. AW should have emptied the bench then and there with it being 6 -0 and the game still in the balance -. He didn’t and the game was gone by half time as the Raiders piled on the points.

Every team this year is going to be off loading all day against us, it was like watching the preliminary final against the Bronces all over again.

We had 3 in the tackle on too many occasions and still couldn’t lock it down which put pressure on the remainder of the defensive line.
From that point anything on attack was purely one up because everyone was gassed.

How many times did JFH take a hit up and looked to pass nobody in support.- probably shocked his old mate Moses Leota wasn’t there.

It’s a shame to say it but Capewell and Niukore are absolutely cooked, they looked underwhelming in the trials too. Neither currently offer anything in attack or defence.

Erin Clark needed to start today. He looked the most menacing of our forwards and I think will have a good season. It was a strange starting forward pack.

The bench rotation needs to have Bunty on it, for both his size and tackle efficiency.
Next up Manly and their monster pack of forwards. Frank Molo anyone?

 

[John Nick]

With Ali, he should be the cream on the top but instead we are just giving him the ball and expecting him to be Mal Meninga. Zero creativity from our halves to put him in to space and use his talents.

Agree with the sentiment but the lack of go forward up front stifles the time and space.
Footy is always won from the front

 

[Inruin]

We had 38 tackles in the raiders 20. They had 17 tackles in ours. We lacked creativity and organisation to convert. And a fair few of those were against an opposition of 12. We ended up lucky to score 8 points.

 

[Stalefish540]

Only round one, but yea unfortunately can't take any positives from that one at all.

Very concerning that we were absolutely dismantled in just about every facet of the game by the Raiders.

 

[Inruin]

Sad indictment on our halves that it took one of our props in the dying minutes to finally try something different with our kicking game

 

[Christchurch_Warrior]

I watched the first half again. Ali really needs to work on D especially his positioning. If he can't then maybe the wing for him. Capewell and Niukore looked like they couldn't handle the pace of the game. CNK seemed worst after kung-fu kicking the red head nutball. Ford was a menace to the Raiders. Somehow didn't get pinged though. Pompey looked the most creative with ball in hand. We looked like we were gone after the first 20. Just didn't come close to controlling the ruck. Not sure will watch the second half lol.