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The free speech union, basically the far right and ACT pushing their far right Atlas agenda through direct interference -

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The Free Speech Union has confirmed it initially encouraged billionaire Jim Grenon’s investment in the NZME media group.

Grenon, a Canadian-born private equity investor, plans to clean out the board and set a new direction for the company, which owns the New Zealand Herald and about half the country’s commercial radio stations.

Jonathan Ayling, chief executive of the Free Speech Union, confirmed it was the campaign group that first suggested he become an investor.

It followed the FSU’s public criticism of NZME, Allied Press and the Stuff Group (which publishes The Post) for not running advertisements from right wing lobby group Hobson’s Pledge, anti-vaxxers Voices for Freedom and conservative Christian advocates Family First.

“It was an initial conversation with with one of our supporters that followed in a long line of conversations with supporters around this issue,” Ayling said, confirming that supporter was Grenon.

The FSU began taking a interest in the advertorial and editorial policy NZME was running about two years ago, he said.

“We had an ongoing engagement with Michael Boggs, the [NZME] CEO, and at the 2023 AGM, we managed to move some motions around the way that they were rejecting ads.

“And we have worked with some relatively large shareholders who were concerned that individuals who were presenting otherwise legal but unorthodox views were not having their ads accepted.”

The Herald last year faced public backlash following the publication of a wraparound front-page ad that urged readers to sign a petition to return the seabed and foreshore to “public ownership”.

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A public letter signed by more than 170 academics and lawyers said the claims made in the ad were “misleading and inaccurate.” The Advertising Standards Complaints Board later ruled it breached the Advertising Standards Code.

Feedback from readers saw the media company pull a second ad, which prompted fierce criticism from the FSU.

More than 1000 of its supporters emailed NZME after it refused to run a Family First “What is a woman?” campaign in 2023.


Grenon has told NZME that he expects to secure “overwhelming” support from shareholders to replace its board at the company’s annual meeting on April 29.
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Grenon had taken an interest in media, Ayling said, “so it was an obvious next step for him”.

“We were keen to encourage [that]. That's exactly what we do, we encourage those who share our concerns about the state of free speech and the plurality of voices in the Fourth Estate to take an active role on that.

“That's the extent to which we participated. Our conversations with Jim were significant in encouraging him to take the very significant stance that he did. But, obviously, it was him going, ‘Oh, I guess there's an opportunity here’.”

Ayling said FSU would continue to encourage that diverse voices are heard in other areas of society.

“We’ve always encouraged our supporters to buy shares, and it's consistent with the way we engage over a host of institutions.” This included professional membership councils for universities, the public service, lawyers, teachers, and healthcare, he said.

“We've got eight professional memberships in place that have identified eight key sectors of society that we think really need investment ...[and] the individuals that we have there to say that we need to reinvigorate a cultural response here, where everyday Kiwis feel like they have a buy-in.”

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Grenon was contacted for comment.

E tū negotiation specialist Michael Wood said the union was concerned about “undue” influence from Grenon, who spent $9 million on a 9.3% stake the in publicly-listed company.

“Confirmation that a highly political lobby group like the FSU has played a role in organising the attempted board takeover at NZME, makes it clear that this effort is not really about improving the commercial performance of the company as shareholders have been advised,” he said.

“Instead it appears to be an orchestrated attempt by people with very strong views on a range of public policy issues to take control of one of New Zealand’s largest media outlets.”

Wood called on Grenon and his shareholding supporters “to open up about who has been involved, and what their real intentions are.”

Wood added: “New Zealanders who rely on the editorial independence of a free and open press deserve to know, and shareholders who have been told that it’s all about earning a better return also deserve clarity.”

He said the FSU should also come out in “strong support” of of editorial independence and to convince Grenon to make the same commitment.

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Seriously, there’s a lot to like about the changes and to give credit, Labour proposed SOME of the changes as well. Seems to hit at the worst issues currently.

If Labour lovers want to complain about National ignoring them, you only have to go back to Covid when Labour completely shut the opposition out of what should have been a collaborative response, or at least consulting over serious changes. National was very vocal about this at the time and now lefties don’t like political utu?
The changes are needed 100% but some of them would already be in place if National had supported the changes when Labour was in; they are going further which is probably also needed but it shows both parties are about scoring political points as opposed to standing for something and supporting it even if someone else is in power at the time.
 
As poorly as the coalition has been, they are 100x better than any parties involving the current versions of the māori Party or the Greens which appear to favour anarchy.

History would just repeated as we descend into racial division, high crime and a general breakdown in society like before the last election.

I feel sorry for Hipkins trying to put together a viable alternative for 2026. Good luck. I don’t like your chances 🤡🤡🤡
 
You're so deep in the same world as the narrative being spun by the critics though wiz.
Like Hipkins?

Greens = pro gangs and crime

Prove me wrong

- Defend Gol shoplifting.
- Defend green MPs saying they would rather be in a dark alley with a gang member than a policeman
- Defend saying the average NZer is scared of the police.
- Defend incorrectly saying everyone in jail isn’t violent
- defend being anti gang patch ban
- defend the comments ‘Some of these gangs are doing quite good things in our community’

Back in the real world, average NZers are happy crime rates are recovering from the the last time the greens were in Govt.
 
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Like Hipkins?

Greens = pro gangs and crime

Prove me wrong

- Defend Gol shoplifting.
- Defend green MPs saying they would rather be in a dark alley with a gang member than a policeman
- Defend saying the average NZer is scared of the police.
- Defend incorrectly saying everyone in jail isn’t violent
- defend being anti gang patch ban
- defend the comments ‘Some of these gangs are doing quite good things in our community’

Back in the real world, average NZers are happy crime rates are recovering from the the last time the greens were in Govt.
You prove yourself wrong with every comment, this one is full of your usual lies.
 
Like Hipkins?

Greens = pro gangs and crime

Prove me wrong

- Defend Gol shoplifting.
- Defend green MPs saying they would rather be in a dark alley with a gang member than a policeman
- Defend saying the average NZer is scared of the police.
- Defend incorrectly saying everyone in jail isn’t violent
- defend being anti gang patch ban
- defend the comments ‘Some of these gangs are doing quite good things in our community’

Back in the real world, average NZers are happy crime rates are recovering from the the last time the greens were in Govt.
You lead, prove your statements with evidence please. You have to actually read the articles/statements made in context - not just headlines.
Because if you believe "Greens = pro gangs and crime" then you are an even bigger idiot than I already thought you were. ;)
 
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Like Hipkins?

Greens = pro gangs and crime

Prove me wrong

- Defend Gol shoplifting.
- Defend green MPs saying they would rather be in a dark alley with a gang member than a policeman
- Defend saying the average NZer is scared of the police.
- Defend incorrectly saying everyone in jail isn’t violent
- defend being anti gang patch ban
- defend the comments ‘Some of these gangs are doing quite good things in our community’

Back in the real world, average NZers are happy crime rates are recovering from the the last time the greens were in Govt.
Oh and by the way gun crime and gangs are getting worse under this government.

And here's more of the so called free speech union pushing their far right agenda



View: https://bsky.app/profile/publicaddress.bsky.social/post/3llfwdwhses2b
 
You lead, prove your statements with evidence please. You have to actually read the articles/statements made in context - not just headlines.
Because if you believe "Greens = pro gangs and crime" then you are an even bigger idiot that I already thought you were. ;)
Most of it was in the article I posted above, but here you go. Now some of you guys defend these nutters instead of saying they are just misunderstood:

- Gol shoplifting:
If you don’t know about this then you have been living under a rock

- green MPs saying they would rather be in a dark alley with a gang member than a policeman:

- the average NZer is scared of the police.

- Defend incorrectly saying everyone in jail isn’t violent

- anti gang patch ban

- ‘Some of these gangs are doing quite good things in our community’

- new one: ‘For many people in New Zealand, they would feel safer alone with a patched member.’ WTF???
 
To be clear I have no problem with parties being advocates for the certain demographics (poor, criminals, etc)

But it crosses the boundary when people make shit up to actively attack and undermine the police and justice system. Need to be called out, not defended:

- Claiming someone was put in jail for shoplifting $12 of items
- Salvation Army told her police were waiting for homeless people to leave their spots before throwing out their property.

This isn’t advocating for change, this is a anti police mindset.
 
Most of it was in the article I posted above, but here you go. Now some of you guys defend these nutters instead of saying they are just misunderstood:

- Gol shoplifting:
If you don’t know about this then you have been living under a rock

- green MPs saying they would rather be in a dark alley with a gang member than a policeman:

- the average NZer is scared of the police.

- Defend incorrectly saying everyone in jail isn’t violent

- anti gang patch ban

- ‘Some of these gangs are doing quite good things in our community’

- new one: ‘For many people in New Zealand, they would feel safer alone with a patched member.’ WTF???
As I suspected would happen. You're not reading the articles at all. Just pulling quotes out of context.
None of this stuff backs up Greens are pro gangs and crime.
They are one of the few political parties trying to look out for marginalised groups and are trying to create policy that address underlying causes of crime, homelessness etc etc.

I'll come back to this later.
 
As I suspected would happen. You're not reading the articles at all. Just pulling quotes out of context.
None of this stuff backs up Greens are pro gangs and crime.
They are one of the few political parties trying to look out for marginalised groups and are trying to create policy that address underlying causes of crime, homelessness etc etc.

I'll come back to this later
Greens might not survive the next scandal, if rumours are even close to being true.
 
    Nobody is reading this thread right now.
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