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[miket12]

EVs currently pay RUC
$76/1000kms

I’ve never looked into the figures before. Is that based on the weight of the vehicle or do all EV’s pay the same amount? To lazy too Google it myself.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Kind of like being caught between a rock and a hard place.... at least with a petrol tax, you have to pay it when you fill up your car but, those who can least afford it in cars which aren't that fuel efficient subsidise those who can afford a more modern, fuel efficient car because those with the less efficient cars have to buy more petrol to travel the same distance.

But, you bring in road user charges and unless you're going to expect mechanics when it's WOF time (that is if the car even has a WOF), or an AA clerk when it's time to renew the Rego (if the car is registered) or the petrol station attendant (but not if you use pay at the pump) is expected to check to see if someone has purchased their RUC's, it's going to be a nightmare to enforce.

Buggered if I know what the answer is but it seems paying at the pump is a lot easier to administer even if it isn't exactly a "fair system".

Any talk about tolls is generally meant by calls of privatisation by stealth so that doesn't seem to be the answer either.

Dallas has a system where, on their freeways, at peak times, some of the lanes are tolled while others aren't.... so motorists have a choice, pay a toll and get home quicker or stay in the untolled lanes and get stuck in traffic. The money from the tolled sections is then used to pay for the next new piece of freeway to be built.

The majority of motorways or expressways in Europe are tolled and privately owned. Govt gets a share (France)

Recently did Paris to Bordeaux in 5.5 hours, toll roads all the way and 130kmh speed limit. Approx 600km.
Also, no trucks over 7 tonne I think, on French roads on Sunday so that's the best day for long distance travelling.
Problem here is finding roads for privatising and tolling. Really only the major state highways and arterial routes into say Auckland and Wellington would have the traffic numbers to make it worthwhile

 

[Bobbysea]

I’ve never looked into the figures before. Is that based on the weight of the vehicle or do all EV’s pay the same amount? To lazy too Google it myself.

This is the same as what I pay on my Nissan diesel ute

 

[Bay39er]

I’ve never looked into the figures before. Is that based on the weight of the vehicle or do all EV’s pay the same amount? To lazy too Google it myself.

All full EVs the same

 

[defensivebomb]

The majority of motorways or expressways in Europe are tolled and privately owned. Govt gets a share (France)

Recently did Paris to Bordeaux in 5.5 hours, toll roads all the way and 130kmh speed limit. Approx 600km.
Also, no trucks over 7 tonne I think, on French roads on Sunday so that's the best day for long distance travelling.
Problem here is finding roads for privatising and tolling. Really only the major state highways and arterial routes into say Auckland and Wellington would have the traffic numbers to make it worthwhile

Privatisation! For the rich, by the rich

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

So media quoting AA policy adviser who states that RUC’s will be a good outcome for multi vehicle owners because they only get charged on the distance they travel rather than each time they fill up… wtf??

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

So media quoting AA policy adviser who states that RUC’s will be a good outcome for multi vehicle owners because they only get charged on the distance they travel rather than each time they fill up… wtf??

More for the restoration on cars you don’t use than the petrol tax

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

More for the restoration on cars you don’t use than the petrol tax

But obviously whether you pay based on distance or petrol consumption - there’s no benefit of being a multi-vehicle owner