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[Tragic]

One thing just to remember with all this is that these lazy terrible parents were once the kids without guidance. The problem is generational.

Yeah totally but once they are adults the cost of changing them is more than society wants to pay so what's the answer?

 

[Damo]

It’s the Maori parties objective to create divisions around race. If race was irrelevant they wouldn’t have a platform so they need to take a default divisive position to remain relevant.

Some examples of their coarsening of the tone around race relations:

Maori party MPs: ‘coalition government have a "mission to exterminate Māori”

MP’s repeatedly using the words "white supremacy" and "Pākehā supremacy" when criticising the repeal of section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act.

‘It is a known fact that Maori genetic makeup is stronger than others.’

I don't agree with a lot TPM do but I was only commenting on that specific incident. No need to reply with all that

 

[Tragic]

Chhour is Maori and was bought up in the state system with foster parents.

A TPM social media post:

“If Section 7AA were around in Karen Chhour’s time, she would have been raised Māori, she would have been raised being connected to her whakapapa and having a knowingness of her Māoritanga. Instead, she was raised Pākehā with a disconnection and disdain for her... people.”

A deeply personal attack throwing rubbish at Chhour commenting on her personal upbringing and saying she is not the right kind of Māori.

Very unbecoming from a political party.

We’re all people - nothing good comes from dividing us up by race.

I think it's a fair point and probably correct, it's true about my family as well, disconnected and racist but happy to claim it when there is something to gain.

 

[Worried2Death]

I don't agree with a lot TPM do but I was only commenting on that specific incident. No need to reply with all that

You've stirred up the ACT voters. Can you do us a solid and fact check all those other quotes he mentioned too, you never know with these far right propagandists.

 

[Mr Drag]

It’s the Maori parties objective to create divisions around race. If race was irrelevant they wouldn’t have a platform so they need to take a default divisive position to remain relevant.

Some examples of their coarsening of the tone around race relations:

Maori party MPs: ‘coalition government have a "mission to exterminate Māori”

MP’s repeatedly using the words "white supremacy" and "Pākehā supremacy" when criticising the repeal of section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act.

‘It is a known fact that Maori genetic makeup is stronger than others.’

The Maori Party are for poor Maori who are at the bottom of the ladder because they don't blame them for their poverty, but blame Colonization and if Maori weren't colonized they would be millionaires!

 

[Tragic]

I think it's a fair point and probably correct, it's true about my family as well, disconnected and racist but happy to claim it when there is something to gain.

Maori ancestry, know their whakapapa but disconnected from their marae and tribe for a few generations other than being in some register so when payments for land rent go out they get their share. And old so say racist shit all the time.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Yeah totally but once they are adults the cost of changing them is more than society wants to pay so what's the answer?

No idea what the solution is. I’ll tell you what it definitely isn’t however - disincentivising the motivated hard working component of our population. Without them I’m not sure where our tax revenue is going to come from to support those that rely on it.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Yikes

 

[defensivebomb]

Yikes

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Sheesh

 

[MaybeTop8]

Yikes

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Thanks National and Act

 

[MaybeTop8]

Turns out there is a doctor shortage after all Frank.

Turns out underfunding isn't actually a blowout, it's the conservative's favourite plaything - austerity.

Lester Levy is a neolib acolyte there to slash and burn. And New Zealand will pay the price in bodies.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Hutt Hospital doctors told to make beds, clean sinks

"Is this a really good use of my time? I suspect I'm the most expensive person there," one doctor says after staff were told they were expected to clean washbowls and sluice sinks.

www.rnz.co.nz

What's gone wrong with New Zealand's health system?

Hospitals are bursting at the seams, with doctors raising the alarm about staff shortages, a workforce under intense pressure, and long wait times for patients. Here's what we know so far.

www.rnz.co.nz

Former Te Whatu Ora board member says Christopher Luxon's claims are disinformation

Dr Curtis Walker says the government's accusations of financial illiteracy are unfair.

www.rnz.co.nz

Health NZ directors accuse PM of disinformation

Directors accuse Luxon of misleading public on Health NZ finances; NZ construction sector the most depressed in the world due to Government freezes; Methane shock super-heating climate, study finds

thekaka.substack.com

Luxon is accused of spreading “disinformation”

The PM of NZ is accused of spreading intentional disinformation on Health NZ as the evidence piles up against the Coalition government. Here’s how it went down.

thestandard.org.nz

 

[MaybeTop8]

Fuck the tax cut for the rich. Stop trashing our health system.

On The Government Crusade To Degrade The Public Health System

If anything finally convinces voters that the Luxon government is a deadly risk to life and limb, it will be the damage it is doing to the public health system. There is no sign the government recognises the realities we face, let alone has a response ...

www.scoop.co.nz

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Turns out there is a doctor shortage after all Frank.

Turns out underfunding isn't actually a blowout, it's the conservative's favourite plaything - austerity.

Lester Levy is a neolib acolyte there to slash and burn. And New Zealand will pay the price in bodies.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Maybe but that article is woeful. Almost zero data and evidence. 500 short of what?

For example
Another briefing provided to the minister in December revealed that 24 practices and clinics in Canterbury, Southern, Hawke’s Bay and Mid Central that provide after-hours or urgent care experienced closures or reductions in hours in 2023.

This was because of a mix of rising costs, changing and complex case mixes, the inability of patients to access general practices, and workforce shortages.

 

[Worried2Death]

Yikes

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Any data on immigrants by profession? Hope we're getting a lot of Indian doctors and other professionals to fill our skills gaps.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Any data on immigrants by profession? Hope we're getting a lot of Indian doctors and other professionals to fill our skills gaps.

Not too sure. I came across this graph and thought it important. Australia released on recently that showed only 1/4 of skilled immigrants used their higher education qualification

 

[miket12]

Amazing how the College of GP’s have been saying there was a shortage of GP’s in 2021 but it’s suddenly the fault the current government’s cuts to fund tax cuts.

https://www.rnzcgp.org.nz/gpdocs/new-website/publications/2021-GP-future-workforce-report-FINAL.pdf

 

[marv.]

Amazing how the College of GP’s have been saying there was a shortage of GP’s in 2021 but it’s suddenly the fault the current government’s cuts to fund tax cuts.

https://www.rnzcgp.org.nz/gpdocs/new-website/publications/2021-GP-future-workforce-report-FINAL.pdf

please dont link proof or reasoning.
you’ll give MaybeTop8 a conniption.

 

[marv.]

please dont link proof or reasoning.
you’ll give MaybeTop8 a conniption.

sorry, who am i kidding?!
he’ll either ignore it or find something stupid and unrelated bomber said four years ago as evidence to the contrary.

 

[marv.]

sorry, who am i kidding?!
he’ll either ignore it or find something stupid and unrelated bomber said four years ago as evidence to the contrary.

sorry MaybeTop8
just playing, fella.

 

[Damo]

sorry MaybeTop8
just playing, fella.

You all good? 3 messages to yourself