Worried2Death
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Bit scared of the CCP
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Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics
- Thread starter wizard of Tauranga
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Don't be scared mate , it's all in the ether
Look out your windows.
Worried2Death
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What if I look out and see the red army landing on the coast
Stuff have been doing great journalism. https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/35...ign-interference-claims-warns-journalists-notAnyone seen this yet?
The Long Game
The Long Game: Revelations of China-backed cyber hacking of the New Zealand Parliament have prompted surprise and concern. But a Stuff Circuit investigation shows Chinese Communist Party influence and interference operations in New Zealand have been going on for decades, unabated, striking at...interactives.stuff.co.nz
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Citation on the 100 year life span please.
If that ever happens you'd either be surrendering or joining some resistance movement I'd imagine?
Probably not much chance of influencing the present action or consequence either way
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‘the iReX Project which was set up to deliver a resilient Interislander ferry service and robust port infrastructure with a 100-year design life.
KiwiRail looks to future for Interislander
www.kiwirail.co.nz
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Worried2Death
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You've translated that into "ferries with 100 year life span". Think about it. And maybe correct your thinking if you feel like it - it's not the same thing.‘the iReX Project which was set up to deliver a resilient Interislander ferry service and robust port infrastructure with a 100-year design life.
KiwiRail looks to future for Interislander
If thats your position than fair. But doesnt seem that you hold Labor to the same scrutiny
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Semantics.
If the ferries are unviable in my EV question then the 100 year specialised port infrastructure is obsolete.
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Not semantics. Your framing turned x into y and you applied y to prove your own point, which is effectively nullified by the original conversion
Also (I really need to stop digging into this) ferries aren't unviable. Evs might not be safe to transport on an ocean going ferry, which is a separate conversation/issue/discussion, but that would be more around how to mitigate safety issues for modern vehicles.
I love how this is a complete National fuck up costing us hundreds of millions and who knows what else and it's somehow being spun into some sort of genius move because, you know, ferries aren't viable.
I love how this is a complete National fuck up costing us hundreds of millions and who knows what else and it's somehow being spun into some sort of genius move because, you know, ferries aren't viable.
Their own people are scared, so should we!
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except my original post said:‘Nothing about the politics but just wondering’
I don’t think it’s a factor I was just personally wondering for my own interest how EV’s will be handled.
You seem very defensive!
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Nah all good. But it's a general question really relating to ev batteries and their safety, not necessarily ferries, blah blah, have a nice evening, at least SJ is taking a break.
‘Nothing about the politics but just wondering’
I don’t think it’s a factor I was just personally wondering for my own interest how EV’s will be handled.
You seem very defensive!
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Yes. $700m for the same size ferries to replace existing that didn’t have rail.
Labour subsequently upsized them and rail enabled them which required all the new infrastructure and blew out the cost to $3b+.
I don’t think anyone would have an issue with $700m replacement in a like for like. My moneys on that ending up the solution again. Ferries the same size as existing with no infrastructure upgrade.
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John Nick
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Bit ironic that throughout all of this nobody has thought about Ocean going tugs for emergency
Cook Strait is a notorious stretch of water and an incident is inevitable
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