Post Match Manly v Warriors - [Round 24, 2024]

[Inruin]

Roosters had a couple of lean years in general. Think Webster would have been better to follow Micheal Maguire’s template for the Kiwis last time RTS was in the jersey, RTS fullback and CNK centre. Just my view

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EIl2EykDjtU&pp=ygUXa2l3aXMgdnMga2FuZ2Fyb29zIDIwMjM%3D

CNK at fullback says hi. RTS is an attacking block with ball in hand

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Don’t think he’s picked up a premiership yet?

That would make him a champion. Fact is AFB is an above average performer and we are far below average. Most high performers hate being around below average people.

Its like people havent watched The Last Dance.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Roosters had a couple of lean years in general. Think Webster would have been better to follow Micheal Maguire’s template for the Kiwis last time RTS was in the jersey, RTS fullback and CNK centre. Just my view

What was the success rate of RTS in the Kiwis number 1 jumper vs CNK when playing the Kanngroos? CNK was awesome for us at fullback against them in the final last year.

 

[juju]

No. Hes a winner, we are losers

What's he won exactly?

Amazing talent but ditching his third club now.

 

[Noitall]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EIl2EykDjtU&pp=ygUXa2l3aXMgdnMga2FuZ2Fyb29zIDIwMjM%3D

CNK at fullback says hi. RTS is an attacking block with ball in hand

You know he’s likely not going to pass just like Tedesco. His strength is trailing the play and defence at the back. I don’t think he’s a block, just a finisher. It’s fullback or wing for me because of the unlikely hood to set another player up or distribute

 

[Noitall]

What was the success rate of RTS in the Kiwis number 1 jumper vs CNK when playing the Kanngroos? CNK was awesome for us at fullback against them in the final last year.

Likely a far bigger sample of RTS to compare the both at fullback in the Kiwis. Not doubting his great form in that test and last season but he hasn’t hit the same form this season for whatever reason? The worry is that he couldn’t regain the form at the raiders either that he also played so brilliantly making a grand final. There’s been public noose from the likes of Adam Blair that RTS is best served at fullback, perhaps that’s knocked CNK’s confidence after staking his claim to the jersey upon RTS signing?

 

[Inruin]

You know he’s likely not going to pass just like Tedesco. His strength is trailing the play and defence at the back. I don’t think he’s a block, just a finisher. It’s fullback or wing for me because of the unlikely hood to set another player up or distribute

I'm with wing or nowhere.

 

[juju]

That would make him a champion. Fact is AFB is an above average performer and we are far below average. Most high performers hate being around below average people.

Its like people havent watched The Last Dance.

Kinda lucky we've signed a 3 x champion, golden boot winning kiwi captain - who actually wants to be at the club.

Bit of a replacement for our alpha who has burnt out of three under performing NRL teams.

But yeah... we all need to watch the last dance to understand the complexity of AFB.

 

[Inruin]

Likely a far bigger sample of RTS to compare the both at fullback in the Kiwis. Not doubting his great form in that test and last season but he hasn’t hit the same form this season for whatever reason? The worry is that he couldn’t regain the form at the raiders either that he also played so brilliantly making a grand final. There’s been public noose from the likes of Adam Blair that RTS is best served at fullback, perhaps that’s knocked CNK’s confidence after staking his claim to the jersey upon RTS signing?

Was he dropped because of form at the raiders or because Ricky packed a sad and wouldn't play him once he signed for us?

 

[Noitall]

Shit Nathan Brown is an unlikable prick. But how was CHT completely dominate him 1 on 1 close to the end of the game, he looked in shock. Then packed a sad and tried to put the niggle in

 

[Sledge]

I have woken up after last night's game feeling pure disappointment in the team, and have very little hope for the next couple of seasons. I might be in the wrong thread too, but I need to get it out so y'all gon' to wear it.
To me this year will go down as an epic failure, especially considering the heights this same team reached just last year. 2024 has been one of the least enjoyable seasons I have grinded my way through since becoming an avid supporter in the late 90s. We have got progressively worse since August last year when we were locked in the top 8, were clearly losing form but still managing to scrape by bottom teams like the Tigers game in Hamilton. It was fun. There was energy. There was hope that we could finally build ourselves into a powerhouse that consistently pushed for the title. As this year has gone on I’ve slipped back into expecting our team to perform below expectation, and have not been surprised to see us lose far more than we have won. We have absolutely earned our current spot at the bottom of the ladder. The whole country seems to be behind the team, club looks in great order, history made with every game sold out, but the team has dished up nothing but shit week after week. Absolute disappointment, the kind that loses fans and makes it harder for the club going forward.
I will remember 2024 for the incredible low points of the humiliating losses including those to the Dragons, Titans and Eels. There has been very little to celebrate compared to the 2023 highlights reel of Dalliin’s flying tries or games like the Townsville romp or Sharks comeback. It has been a joyless, soul sucking year which has hurt so much more because of the hope of the year prior.
We have absolutely squandered the platform that our forwards have provided us for most of the games this year. I truly cannot see how we are going to replace AFB’s metres, and predict our forwards getting bullied next year even with JFH replacing him. Guys like Capewell and Niukore who have clearly struggled with the pace of the game won’t magically be any quicker or more agile in 2025 either. Webby doesn’t seem to be brave enough to give quality minutes to the young bulls, so I’m expecting their progress to be stunted by safety-first team selections. $2 says we get the same team list next week (depending on suspensions) even with the season now officially done. Wouldn’t blame Halasima, Sifakula, Zyon Maiu’u et al. for looking for more opportunities at other clubs.
Most worrying to me is how far so many of the backs have fallen so much since last year, and these guys are now a year older…and slower…for 2025. I’ll admit that I haven’t watched every game of NSW Cup this year, but am still yet to see much in the next gen of backs to be excited besides Tuaupiki. Where are our Saabs? Fiddows? I honestly don’t see our current backs improving enough next year to get us off the bottom of the ladder. We are slow, bumbling, injury prone, poorly coached, often outgunned, getting older, and I don’t see too much promise coming through to replace it.
Our attack is one dimensional, and clearly not working. Since teams have learned to shut down our 2023 right side sweep plays to DWZ, we have offered nothing. It’s not helping that important players like Charnze aren't able to pull those off like last year either. In the red zone, we throw the short pass to the lead runner over and over again, or we go side to side, but look totally directionless. Scorelines this year are proof our attack isn’t working. We have no little set moves like Storm or Eagles used to beat us this year, or no speed or individual brilliance to even fall back on when the crash and bash inevitably doesn’t work. Webby’s bomb to the corner and trap the opposition strategy is boring as shit and doesn’t work if Johnson or Berry aren’t there or if you give away cheap penalties…which we very often do. I wouldn’t be heartbroken if they clear out the attacking plans and coaches from this year.
This team has totally lost their resilience in defence. Even in the game last night, it was so predictable that the Eagles would score in their first attacking raid after their 40/20 extinguished our hot start. Absolutely unsurprising (and demoralising) that it was Saab strolling past our outside backs like he does every game he plays against us, but we haven’t worked out how to stop him yet. This team has had very few changes and has another year under Wdbby’s defensive system, but are going backwards really fast. Seems unimaginable that almost the same team that got repeatedly opened up last night with their season on the line, defended themselves to one game short of last year’s Grand Final. Our defence is unrecognisable from then.
How do we not have a goal kicker or someone who can kick field goals? Do we not train for those? With the amount of games we have lost this year by 6 points or under, you’d think there would be a huge focus on getting those right, but have seen CHT, Johnson and Metcalfe all spray sitters in just the last couple of games. What are the team actually practising during the week?!?!
I could continue writing, but feel like this is the definition of pissing in the wind. I'll be in the stands again next week with my Craig Bellamy game face on, hoping (like an idiot) that one year the Warriors will pull it all together. I just can’t see that coming any time soon after another bitterly disappointing year served by the team in 2024.

Agree with everything you say, I’m really starting to wonder about Webster, I’m thinking it was the Bulldogs who go the better coach.

 

[Teets]

RTS has been a massive distraction all year. Just a pain in the ass every week listening to this where to play him shit.

31 year old outside back was never going to improve the FB or Centre position so much from the incumbents as people were believing.

No fault of RTS who tries his guts out, but wish he'd gone to Japan.

 

[Noitall]

Was he dropped because of form at the raiders or because Ricky packed a sad and wouldn't play him once he signed for us?

Was dropped before signing with us, but also had personal stuff happening I think with his kids returning over here?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I'm with wing or nowhere.

I’m for nowhere, he’s too slow for wing

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Likely a far bigger sample of RTS to compare the both at fullback in the Kiwis. Not doubting his great form in that test and last season but he hasn’t hit the same form this season for whatever reason? The worry is that he couldn’t regain the form at the raiders either that he also played so brilliantly making a grand final. There’s been public noose from the likes of Adam Blair that RTS is best served at fullback, perhaps that’s knocked CNK’s confidence after staking his claim to the jersey upon RTS signing?

Adam Blair is no different from 99% of the media. They are sucked in by hype and can’t think for themselves.

 

[Noitall]

Adam Blair is no different from 99% of the media. They are sucked in by hype and can’t think for themselves.

He’s not just media, he’s involved with the club. Was at least anyway, might be with the Kiwis and Stacey Jones now?

 

[Aman 2.0]

Why does SJ keep fucking doing the unders ball to Nuikora every single fucking time?

Is he retarded?

Why not slide across, fake to nuikore and take the line on or hit his centre or winger occasionally?

SJ is the worst 7 in the comp this year.

 

[Damo]

Why does SJ keep fucking doing the unders ball to Nuikora every single fucking time?

Is he retarded?

Why not slide across, fake to nuikore and take the line on or hit his centre or winger occasionally?

SJ is the worst 7 in the comp this year.

Heavy exaggeration from you once again. He doesn't do it every time.
SJ was poor last night in several areas, but doing an unders ball does not make him the worst #7 in the competition.

 

[Aman 2.0]

Heavy exaggeration from you once again. He doesn't do it every time.
SJ was poor last night in several areas, but doing an unders ball does not make him the worst #7 in the competition.

Name a worst 7 than SJ this year.

And yes, he literally does it every single time regardless whether it’s on or not

 

[Damo]

Name a worst 7 than SJ this year.

And yes, he literally does it every single time regardless whether it’s on or not

Aidan Sezer
No he does not. This is an extreme exaggeration.