Player Addin Fonua-Blake

[Noitall]

They won’t get anything for him.

It’s probably just posturing at this point, giving him some time to change his mind or working out the T&C’s (i.e. not playing in games against us etc)

I could see a team like the bulldogs or dragons keen on him for the remainder of the season. Only problem is neither of those teams have any players coming of contact of interest that we could get early wth June transfers. I’m not convinced that the sharks would want him early in case it causes disruption in what they’ve got going? Their front rowers have aimed up this year knowing AFB’s arrival is imminent and him coming in and taking someone’s spot could see some dropped lips? The best outcome for us would be a trade for Oregon Kaufusi. Jack Williams would be disappointing

 

[CWC]

I could see a team like the bulldogs or dragons keen on him for the remainder of the season. Only problem is neither of those teams have any players coming of contact of interest that we could get early wth June transfers. I’m not convinced that the sharks would want him early in case it causes disruption in what they’ve got going? Their front rowers have aimed up this year knowing AFB’s arrival is imminent and him coming in and taking someone’s spot could see some dropped lips? The best outcome for us would be a trade for Oregon Kaufusi. Jack Williams would be disappointing

Swap for Lomax ‘25 to play prop

 

[CWC]

I would trade him to the Sharks now for a good prop if that means disrupting their team culture lol, might do a Broncos 2022, No.1 team then 8 losses in a row to crash out of the top 8

Sharks bald suits will be too unaware and take the bite

 

[Makasene]

Wonder if the hold up is the Warriors seeing what they can get for him?

Hard to say, it's either a clean break or he is staying and either of the two is probably taking time to sort out.

I think it's very hard to get anyone without additional years contract. Who is going to come here for 5 months? (that we want)

But sign them for 1.5 years and it's looks a bit more attractive - so we can't just do that for anyone.

The Bye has really come at the perfect time for this, blessed with an additional week to sort it (which is a lifetime in the NRL!).

 

[Worried2Death]

Hard to say, it's either a clean break or he is staying and either of the two is probably taking time to sort out.

I think it's very hard to get anyone without additional years contract. Who is going to come here for 5 months? (that we want)

But sign them for 1.5 years and it's looks a bit more attractive - so we can't just do that for anyone.

The Bye has really come at the perfect time for this, blessed with an additional week to sort it (which is a lifetime in the NRL!).

What about that backflipper Toby Rudolph, anyone still keen on him? Maybe his granny's made a miraculous recovery.

 

[Makasene]

What about that backflipper Toby Rudolph, anyone still keen on him?

Take whatever you can get for the rest of the season.

Best case you improve the squad.

Worst case they don't fit and move on end of the year.

AFB ain't playing this week, and won't play again if he is to leave so nothing wrong with getting someone in return for the rest of the year.

I'll throw a name out so you can all laugh at me... Go get Tevita Pangai-Junior!

 

[Worried2Death]

Take whatever you can get for the rest of the season.

Best case you improve the squad.

Worst case they don't fit and move on end of the year.

AFB ain't playing this week, and won't play again if he is to leave so nothing wrong with getting someone in return for the rest of the year.

Agre 100% with your post and edited out that moment of insanity at the end

 

[BabylonPink]

Maybe the guy was just devo after a bad performance, tbf to the guy , I've had shit shifts and just fucked off after without saying goodbye...
We really do hold these guys to higher standards than ourselves.

 

[Makasene]

Maybe the guy was just devo after a bad performance, tbf to the guy , I've had shit shifts and just fucked off after without saying goodbye...
We really do hold these guys to higher standards than ourselves.

Yes, professional athletes are held to high standards.

That's why they get the big bucks.

I've never really understood the comparison of being a pro sports player and a regular job - "If I do that at my job..."

Professional sports teams are really more like joining the army. Standards and consequences etc. The best teams often coached by drill seargant like men.

How do you reckon it would go for you skipping a debrief in the army?

 

[Wellington Warrior]

I'll throw a name out so you can all laugh at me... Go get Tevita Pangai-Junior!

Ok ill bite… have we dropped the “No Dick Heads” policy?

 

[Woofa]

 

[Classicrockdave]

I bet my left testicle that’s a load of bollocks.

 

[Woofa]

I bet my left testicle that’s a load of bollocks.

I agree but I wouldn’t bet my nuts

 

[Hatchet Harry]

Let’s all calm down about Addin. If he had got any integrity, he will pull his head in and do what he promised at the start of the year. Give his all for the jersey from now to the end of the season.

This might be the best thing for him - if he gets released, then he will screw his reputation.

He will only be released if he becomes toxic… but I don’t expect that to happen.

He’s a complex character who obviously has some self confidence issues. If he is back for the Cows game, I’ll support him to the end if this intervention has the desired effect and wakes him up.

You can lead without being skipper. About time he was a bloody leader, not a lone wolf.
No one is bigger than the team or the club.

 

[Classicrockdave]

I’m betting my nut because I’m positive it’s clickbait bullshit.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

How do you reckon it would go for you skipping a debrief in the army?

Considering military members are subject to military law, what people don't understand is there's the possibility of being locked up for the tiniest thing and most infantry units have detention cells at BHQ.

 

[Dantheman]

I bet my left testicle that’s a load of bollocks.

Fuck man, I’m the king of betting on my testicles and I wouldn’t be staking one of them on this call

 

[sup42]

If he's acting out like this due to family member being ill, then the Wahs management are total dicks for throwing it to the public and blow it up like this

But from what I've seen the last 2 years Webster, Cam and Cappy are the professional ones here, I just weigh the evidence on both sides based on past records and behavior/changes

Gotta frame the mental health arguments in context, perhaps I should have said something the other day, but I didn't want to shut down other people during a major fan vent and be that guy with mental health knowledge preaching. In my world any and all discussion of Mental Health is good.

There is no way on Gods green earth that a Warriors player gets suspended for breach of protocol related to a mental health issue.

Lets all be clear here. Webster would have asked for a please explain.

AFB had he hinted at mental health issues, had his family members raised any concerns in that sphere, had the team Doctor commented there is an issue (they have access to all players Medical records including GP, Psychiatrist, therapists consults) then the Warriors would have circled the Wagons.

No functional company that operates in the media spotlight treads on mental health legislation and the various other employment law acts that protect employees.

Being unhappy, frustrated, angry, disappointed, sad, unsatisfied, annoyed is not a mental illness, it is a normal reaction to situational factors in life for us all.

People keep comparing this to the stress they were under during their own unhappy employment experiences of the past. I get it, and I respect all the emphatic supportive comments in here of AFB and his family. I have had some work stress. I know how bad it can be. Very bad. Especially if you mix your priorities and stay on in a job like that, rather than make the obvious call....leave.

The difference between that experience, and a Axis(i) diagnosis of a major mental disorder is that your mental distress can be relieved by life style changes (Addin Fonua Blake has a choice to leave the stressful work place and take a rest on his colossal salary unlike most of us - however we too have the choice to quit our stress causing job....people do it every day and they are not mentally ill).
Someone who is mentally ill, could leave a stressful job and that alone will not address the biological drivers of mental illness like chemical imbalances and or psychological trauma/harm that requires professional help from the likes of therapy and or medication.

So, I think it is very clear this is not a mental health dynamic (although mental health is a dynamic situation, and may come into play at any time - ergo people pointing towards a mental health explanation are not making irrelevant comment in this thread, by all means continue - this chain of events could trigger mental distress after the fact).

The Warriors would never open themselves up by punishing someone over a mental health related issue because under NZ legislation that is illegal they would also be in breach of contract, and they would be subject to a law suit (an indefensible law suit with court fines and censure from a Judge) they would be in contravention of the human rights act, the health and disabilities code, the World health organization guidelines, locally they would incur NRL censure, loss of sponsorship, media lynching, a fan revolt etc etc.

 

[Classicrockdave]

Gotta frame the mental health arguments in context, perhaps I should have said something the other day, but I didn't want to shut down other people during a major fan vent and be that guy with mental health knowledge preaching. In my world any and all discussion of Mental Health is good.

There is no way on Gods green earth that a Warriors player gets suspended for breach of protocol for a mental health issue.

Lets all be clear here. Webster would have asked for a please explain.

AFB had he hinted at mental health issues, had his family members raised any concerns in that sphere, had the team Doctor commented there is an issue (they have access to all players Medical records including GP, Psychiatrist, therapists consults) then the Warriors would have circled the Wagons.

No functional company that operates in the media spotlight treads on mental health legislation and the various other employment law acts that protect employees.

Being unhappy, frustrated, angry, disappointed, sad, unsatisfied, annoyed is not a mental illness, it is a normal reaction to situational factors in life for us all.

People keep comparing this to the stress they were under during their own unhappy employment experiences of the past.

The difference between that experience, and a Axis(i) diagnosis of a major mental disorder is that your mental distress can be relieved by life style changes (Addin Fonua Blake has a choice to leave the stressful work place and take a rest on his colossal salary unlike most of us - however we too have the choice to quit our stress causing job....people do it every day and they are not mentally ill).

So, I think it is very clear this is not a mental health dynamic (although mental health is a dynamic situation, and may come into play at any time - ergo people pointing towards a mental health explanation are not making irrelevant comment in this thread, by all means continue - this chain of events could trigger mental distress after the fact).

The Warriors would never open themselves up by punishing someone over a mental health related issue because under NZ legislation that is illegal they would also be in breach of contract, and they would be subject to a law suit, fines, NRL censure, media slaughter etc etc.

Probably one of the most thought provoking post on here regard AFB current predicament. Written by someone that seems to have a good knowledge of mental health issues and current NZ legislation. Great post.

 

[Wellington Warrior]

Cam George was on the radio yesterday arvo saying that Addin was committed to seeing out the year. Don’t believe that article at all.