Post Match 2023 Broncos vs Warriors - Week 3 Finals (Post Match)

[kos]

Eddie might have been a decent guy and a good referee but he didn’t ref the Warriors first NRL game.

Bill Harrigan was the ref

Cant remember the ref but was at MSS for that first game and yes Bruce we were denied a fair try and should have won that game.

 

[Boats n Hoes]

I hope next year that our fan base develops some new paradigms next year and if we get a rubbish call in a game we don’t blame the whole loss on that rubbish call. I also hope we stop discussing rubbish calls altogether lots of teams get dudded. Bad calls are part of all sports. Try my sport of choice cricket where you can get sawn off by a bad lbw call and that ends your game if you are a batsman.

Where’s Inruin so he can agree with me?

Great post Wrighty. Absolutely agree. Dont fancy your chances tho especially on a forum as with every dud call we get just further entrenches an already entrenched 'they'll never let us win" mentality.

Your 100% right tho, even on Saturday with the atrocious forward pass calls our own destiny was still in our own hands if we played well enough and controlled what we could control.....which we didnt.......this is the point Webster has made nearly every week.......lost on your average fan (and even some who should know better) whose lust for retribution almost blinds them to anything else that happens in a match.

But take heart in the monority we will be, but your coach shares your view and puts full responsibilty for what happens in a game back on his players......and this is probably the crux of how he's improved this team over such a short time frame and the key to further success.

 

[Bruce]

Eddie might have been a decent guy and a good referee but he didn’t ref the Warriors first NRL game.

Bill Harrigan was the ref

I was going on memory, but I don't think it was Bill. Bill didn't make many mistakes and that was a farking clanger.

 

[snake77]

Back in 1984 or 1985 the French referee ruled us out of a test against Oz at Carlaw. It was disgusting and almost gave Graham Lowe a nervous breakdown.
The public were incensed as well. There was a repeat test the following weekend at Carlaw.
So Lowe took the team on a walk down Queen Street and it was almost like a ticker tape parade.
Armed with that sense of support and indignation the Kiwis went out on the weekend and demolished the Kangaroos, who didn't know had had struck them.
You can do that sometimes, but not every week.

There was a period in the 90s where the International Board thought it would be great idea that instead of neutral refs the away side would provide the ref. I think it lasted one game with a NZ ref for the Aussies to decide it wasn't a rule more a recommendation.

We had a few games here with a french referee who made a team that should have been easy beats be pretty hard work.

The main thing I remember is a game in Palmerston North or New Plymouth where there was some funny calls. That and my mate who was either playing in a curtain raiser or his rep side went there as a group and one of the old guys from our club management got accused of trying to steal the players socks.

 

[snake77]

I was going on memory, but I don't think it was Bill. Bill didn't make many mistakes and that was a farking clanger.

The first try ever scored against us wouldn't have been given now with video technology. Remember Willie Carne bouncing.

Well I remember as I saw it in the last few years when the comp was off during covid.

 

[Bay39er]

I was going on memory, but I don't think it was Bill. Bill didn't make many mistakes and that was a farking clanger.

Perhaps this will correct the memory

 

[snake77]

I've mentioned in the past how our two Grand Final appearances were from winning a preliminary final in Australia and that we should consider staying there instead of flying back to NZ and back to Australia again for the Grand Final events.

2002 I think may still have been in the old finals from a specific week are played in Sydney.
2011 was a great effort against the Storm at home.

This weekend would have been a hell of an effort in front of 50k capacity crowd and a home side full of confidence.

The law of averages with the amount of Australian sides and our history would indicate a home preliminary would be pretty rare.

It is a tough task travelling to win that big game to get to the big show. It would get you battle hardened. But man imagine a home preliminary and having that crowd behind us. Then the less disruption for the preperation for the Grand Final.

Hopefully next year or some time soon.

 

[snake77]

The first try ever scored against us wouldn't have been given now with video technology. Remember Willie Carne bouncing.

Well I remember as I saw it in the last few years when the comp was off during covid.

Thanks to Dixpat posting the game. He didn't bounce it, he went out instead.

I remember there was something controversial about it.

 

[Bruce]

Thanks to Dixpat posting the game. He didn't bounce it, he went out instead.

Thank you for watching the whole replay!!!

Perhaps this will correct the memory

heyzeuss it was Bill Harrigan!!
He did not make many mistakes and was probably the best ever referee in the game.
He used to apologise if he made a mistake, he sure didn't after that game.

 

[SJ2k]

It is all well and good talking about playing the Ref out of the game but as you point out, that is impossible against the current top sides under these new rules.

Tonga did it. Against New Zealand first, then Australia, and various Kiwi sides have played the Ref out of the contest.

But to do that you have to have a team which we could currently never assemble because of the Salary cap (which is a rort in of itself).

Part of the solution is for the Warriors to keep winning, create a narrative that cheats the cap within its very loosely and unfairly applied 'rules'.

Start with the Roosters propaganda about players wanting to come here on unders (check, SJ stays on one year for unders).

Milk the home sickness ex Kiwi players willing to come home for less story.

Get creative with third party deals (we have to be winning to even atract sponsors, this is doable if we go top four next season as well).

Play as many crucial games at home by virtue of finishing top two (yeah ok easy in principle, but flies in the face of the reffing they have to deal with to get there).

Add these manipulations of the salary cap on top of the real solution - better development pathways.

All of these things are achievable if we hold onto the owner of the club, Head coach, Recruitment and development head.

In future we will need the best defensive side that has ever been assembled, buying big props won't achieve that.

Absolutely love this post. Even if they need to bring in a non footy brain. In order to be successful we need to be pushing things around the edges. Webby can be the gc coach and the boys can play with honor, but there aren't a lot of orgs in modern sports that win without pushing things. The Patriots in the NFL are the benchmark of this.

 

[The Shah of Iran]

I hope next year that our fan base develops some new paradigms next year and if we get a rubbish call in a game we don’t blame the whole loss on that rubbish call. I also hope we stop discussing rubbish calls altogether lots of teams get dudded. Bad calls are part of all sports. Try my sport of choice cricket where you can get sawn off by a bad lbw call and that ends your game if you are a batsman.

Where’s Inruin so he can agree with me?

I think you're right, as much as it frustrates I don't see any improvement in refs performances. It'll never be a perfectly even comp, which will make it all the more satisfying when we win one!

As the saying goes, "do not attribute to malice that which stupidity can explain"

 

[The Shah of Iran]

On the whole forward pass thing. I'm sick of seeing them, especially at dummy half! We're as guilty as anyone.

What if a forward pass was ruled a free kick penalty (not 2pts) rather than a changeover. This might curb what we're seeing, in particular the type we saw on Saturday as players will think twice before throwing shit passes

 

[Bruce]

On the whole forward pass thing. I'm sick of seeing them, especially at dummy half! We're as guilty as anyone.

I donlt think we are as guilty as everyone at all. We get pulled up at least as often as other clubs.
We definitely don't get away with howlers like in the last two games.

 

[Noitall]

I donlt think we are as guilty as everyone at all. We get pulled up at least as often as other clubs.
We definitely don't get away with howlers like in the last two games.

I think the most recent one we got away with in recent times was CNK collecting Garrick in the air but by the letter of the law was let go. Could have probably gone either way, we certainly don’t get too many off the top of the head though.

 

[Matiunz]

Eddie might have been a decent guy and a good referee but he didn’t ref the Warriors first NRL game.

Bill Harrigan was the ref

Joe Vagana didn’t play the first game against the Bronc either

 

[Since95]

Does this mean he will be joining the Warriors coaching staff?

Doubt it. We can't afford his beer consumption expenses!

 

[WAsupporter]

I was going on memory, but I don't think it was Bill. Bill didn't make many mistakes and that was a farking clanger.

I too am only relying on memory here. But W Carnes 1st try in the Nth eastern corner his leg went into touch before he scored. Imo it was the leg trip by G Hill against A Langer that cost us the win too!

 

[Bruce]

W Carnes 1st try in the Nth eastern corner his leg went into touch before he scored.

I have never seen the match on TV, I was at the game.

 

[Leon Black]

For those that watched the Aussie commentary feeds was that forward pass mentioned?

The NRL clip which includes a live reaction and a replay analysis pretty much doesn't mention it.

It didn't cost us the game overall but it did push the score out to where a comeback was highly unlikely. It will be interesting to see if much is made of it during the week. Klein got pulled from refereeing the rest of the finals due to a clanger. This was missed by Sutton and his side line official. If it happens against the Sydney clubs we hear how embarrassing it is for the sport in a big match with a large audience.

Yep every radio, TV coverage were appalled at that pass

 

[Leon Black]

As much as Willie Mason can be a little too over the top, listen to this

Can’t copy it listen to his comment on TikTok about it

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