Noitall
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Not sure I share that sentiment. This is deeply embarrassing and disastrous for a region that relies heavily on its fisheries
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Do you get conflicted by your opposing inner voices, the delusional libtard in one ear and the shameless populist in the other, like an eternal struggle?
I agree with the sentiment, infrastructure isn't keeping up with immigration. But we are also losing people we soult be trying to keep.
It's not a labour thing, historically I would think it's just as high under national, they both use immigration to prop up growth.
You need spending on infrastructure to cater for more people, labour spend the money but don't have the management nous to make sure it gets used properly without wastage; national aren't spending at all but are opening up immigration without more houses, roads, ferries etc.
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It will all boil down to what actually causes it.
Accidents happen. Ships sink all over the place all the time.
But was it a preventable accident?
On that, surely surveying ships would have the best tech for detecting the bottom. HTF did it actually happen???
Hmm, and is this "Michael Jackson" in the room with us now? Tell me, have you ever felt that you have special powers?
Only after the Inquiry is finalised will the facts be known.Its how & what they divulge to the public is the interesting thing for me.
dean
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Have you heard anything JN ?
Quite a few and scientists to keep quiet while the inquiry proceeds.
NO not really.Nobody wants to talk about it.Maybe because I am an industry publisher ..
You can tell when she's lying.
Her lips move
Mind you that goes for all career politicians
dean
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Shouldn't bother any of us.Stuff
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Bit of a worry with rental prices already high to ease foreign ownership of houses. Feel like it has the potential to push them higher again
He is looking at letting high worth individuals buy here as part of an immigration package. A lousy $20m isn't going to be anywhere near enough so shouldn't push up rents in Manurewa, Ranui or Birkdale.
Noitall
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I just can’t understand this woman. Gave her the benefit of doubt that something was causing this odd behaviour but came to the conclusion that she’s just a thief. She doesn’t deserve any consideration in my eyes to reconsider the verdict. That’s not to say I’m sure she experiences some vile people online and in life due to her background but I don’t see how that could drive you to steal
I don't pretend to understand anyone's mental illnesses, especially kleptomania, if that's what it is. "No reason to get excited said the kleptomaniac to the thief, I know a good lawyer."Stuff
I just can’t understand this woman. Gave her the benefit of doubt that something was causing this odd behaviour but came to the conclusion that she’s just a thief. She doesn’t deserve any consideration in my eyes to reconsider the verdict. That’s not to say I’m sure she experiences some vile people online and in life due to her background but I don’t see how that could drive you to steal
Noitall
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Yeah a bit judgmental from me for something I don’t understand
I was going to say she seems too unwell to be a practising lawyer, let alone a defence lawyer at the ICC, then I thought, "a feeling of nothingness" might actually help with that job.
I wasn't judging your judgement mate, Warriors fans judging each other's judgment is pretty ironic.
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She plead guilty. She is guilty.
Kleptomania is no defence, even if she suffers from it. For mental health issues you need to prove that a mental disorder prevented you from understanding the nature of the law, or prevented you from understanding that it was wrong.
Kleptomaniacs (or stress or PTSD, etc) generally understand perfectly well what they're doing, and that it's criminal.
She’s just trying to get a lower penalty and using anything that creates some pity. A full mix of mental health; traumatic upbringing; stress of the job; impact of future employment options; international work affected; etc.
Boo hoo. She was competent enough to put herself forward as an MP in elections merely 3 months earlier.
Not sure if she was actually competent to do that. She wasn't even a competent thief, how did she expect to succeed as a politician. But yeah her lawyer's just doing her job.
That diagnosis has a pretty bad prognosis. Knowing it's wrong doesn't help her stop pinching things, the poor woman.
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She was standing as a Green MP. Competency isn’t a criteria.
(Set that one up for me beautifully mate
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