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this is assault. This is bigotry and hatred from destiny church

This is what happens bigotry and hatred are allowed to flourish, where those are emboldened by the current intolerant disinformation driven environment.


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I denounce Destiny being there in the first place but honestly the library staff aren’t security guards and seemed to be doing more of the pushing (assaulting)… keep yourself safe and away from those clowns.
 

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This is the state of things. Another half a billion dollar development going up at sea level on a known flood plain with documented flood cycles.

I’m sure when the pool underwriting is done and premiums go up another 15%, the usual suspects will trot out the “cLImaTe ChANge” mantra

Not really Frank, it will likely be uninsurable if there's any common sense
 
Sounds like you're advocating having a government run bank! But the bank is a business. It chooses who it goes into business with. That's how it works.

Unless there is a government mandate of a government owned business to engage with fossil fuels, government interference!
Banks are regulated by the government/RBNZ and, it the moment, businesses applying for a loan have to prove how they will reduce their carbon footprint. Don't supply the information adequately or show that the CF would reduce enough and the banks will charge a higher interest for that loan. Provide the information, and the banks will charge a lower interest rate.
 
The neolibs are in the tourism marketing slogans now! Everything must go!!!

Must have taken forever for them to come up with that clever play on words, someone earned their degree. Sounds more ominous to me on first hearing it, or a big sale. With the amount heading that way, I think we’ll continue to see NZers follow the slogan rather than Aussies
 
Must have taken forever for them to come up with that clever play on words, someone earned their degree. Sounds more ominous to me on first hearing it, or a big sale. With the amount heading that way, I think we’ll continue to see NZers follow the slogan rather than Aussies
yeah exactly
 
The simple fact many forget is Labour wasn’t funding these lunches past 2024 so anything this govt does to prolong it is for the better. Also why are the parents not feeding their kids? Another point, head,masters are saying the kids are turning their noses up at it and are being brought other food instead, pretty much tells me these kids are not hungry, the are fussy. A starving kid will eat just about anything. Headmasters and teachers should keep their opinions to themselves.
I had an argument last week with a 26 year old primary teacher on 75k a year who told me “why should I have teachers only days in the school holidays as I don’t get paid” I asked him what do you mean? Do you have no money paid to you for the holidays and his response was yes but it’s because they take money off my normal fortnightly wages and save it up for us when we have holidays. I told him that’s not how a salary works and he did not get it, he just said he would work during school holidays because he wasn’t getting paid for it 🤦‍♂️. We then worked out he only works 150 days a year compared to my 260. I told him he was basically on 150K a year then to which he didn’t understand that either. I hope to god he is not teaching the kids maths……….
 
Help me understand why the NZ govt needs to supply so many school lunches. This is totaly ridiculous when there are so many benefit options available with extra payments for unforseen hiccups. And yes I do know what I'm talking about having been on goverment assistance at times when I couldn't work and no-one wants to see kids go hungry. But are sufficient enquiries going into the reason a certain family cannot provide lunches for their kids. Ranting on this because I know families who are picking up this extra without having to first give up the booze, vapes or the three dogs ( which are kept for security purposes apparently ) & can afford to run 2 or more vehicles.
so in short imo it's just another bloody rort. As to the religious aspect of unsuitability if a person can't provide for their child they have no right to dictate. That's just taking the piss. Perhaps instead of community housing & tax paid lunches the Govt should think about something along the lines of the old style workhouse system.
 
The simple fact many forget is Labour wasn’t funding these lunches past 2024 so anything this govt does to prolong it is for the better. Also why are the parents not feeding their kids? Another point, head,masters are saying the kids are turning their noses up at it and are being brought other food instead, pretty much tells me these kids are not hungry, the are fussy. A starving kid will eat just about anything. Headmasters and teachers should keep their opinions to themselves.
I had an argument last week with a 26 year old primary teacher on 75k a year who told me “why should I have teachers only days in the school holidays as I don’t get paid” I asked him what do you mean? Do you have no money paid to you for the holidays and his response was yes but it’s because they take money off my normal fortnightly wages and save it up for us when we have holidays. I told him that’s not how a salary works and he did not get it, he just said he would work during school holidays because he wasn’t getting paid for it 🤦‍♂️. We then worked out he only works 150 days a year compared to my 260. I told him he was basically on 150K a year then to which he didn’t understand that either. I hope to god he is not teaching the kids maths……….
Maybe you should join the teaching profession? I'm sure it's a walk in the park, and you seem switched on.
 
The simple fact many forget is Labour wasn’t funding these lunches past 2024 so anything this govt does to prolong it is for the better.
Well, this is misleading.

 
Well, this is misleading.

What’s the truth? On lunches unfunded:

“Chris Hipkins has spat fire at ACT for wanting to cut school lunches and the Screen Production Grant. He should have told Grant Robertson, because the PREFU does the same thing.


When questioned about ongoing underfunding claimed by Seymour,, instead of confirming Labour had budgeted it:

In response to Seymour’s comments, Tauranga-based former Education Minister and Labour education spokeswoman Jan Tinetti said the Government could “easily afford” to pay for the programme on an ongoing basis “if that was a choice they were willing to make”.


Sounds like labour promised it without funding and they would just rack up more debt to pay for it or hide it under covid cost and hope the auditor general doesn’t tell them off again…
 
What’s the truth? On lunches unfunded:

“Chris Hipkins has spat fire at ACT for wanting to cut school lunches and the Screen Production Grant. He should have told Grant Robertson, because the PREFU does the same thing.


When questioned about ongoing underfunding claimed by Seymour,, instead of confirming Labour had budgeted it:

In response to Seymour’s comments, Tauranga-based former Education Minister and Labour education spokeswoman Jan Tinetti said the Government could “easily afford” to pay for the programme on an ongoing basis “if that was a choice they were willing to make”.


Sounds like labour promised it without funding and they would just rack up more debt to pay for it or hide it under covid cost and hope the auditor general doesn’t tell them off again…
The failure to understand how Govt finances things. They simply pay for it and add it to the budget, because it is the right thing to do. If we go into deficit, so be it. The positives far outweigh the cost on the electronic ledger.
The previous scheme employed hundreds of local people, the food was healthy, is made fresh at a local/community level and any extras were distributed within said community. It's a win:win.
The new scheme goes to a international corp. They don't care about the quality as is plain to see. It's all about bottom line and profit, which then go overseas.

The power of government finances is unparalleled. The failure to grasp this is precisely why we remain an economic backwater, prioritising short-term accounting over long-term well-being.
 
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The failure to understand how Govt finances things. They simply pay for it and add it to the budget
Nonsense. And that goes for everything that's in the budget. Why even have a budget if all they should be doing is paying for whatever they want to do when they want to do it? That whole comment is very concerning.

The failure to understand how Govt finances things. They simply pay for it and add it to the budget, because it is the right thing to do. If we go into deficit, so be it. The positives far outweigh the cost on the electronic ledger.
The previous scheme employed hundreds of local people, the food was healthy, is made fresh at a local/community level and any extras were distributed within said community. It's a win:win.
The new scheme goes to a international corp. They don't care about the quality as is plain to see. It's all about bottom line and profit, which then go overseas.
Agreed. I don't think we should have gone as far as they have with the school lunches program but here we are.
 
What’s the truth? On lunches unfunded:

“Chris Hipkins has spat fire at ACT for wanting to cut school lunches and the Screen Production Grant. He should have told Grant Robertson, because the PREFU does the same thing.


When questioned about ongoing underfunding claimed by Seymour,, instead of confirming Labour had budgeted it:

In response to Seymour’s comments, Tauranga-based former Education Minister and Labour education spokeswoman Jan Tinetti said the Government could “easily afford” to pay for the programme on an ongoing basis “if that was a choice they were willing to make”.


Sounds like labour promised it without funding and they would just rack up more debt to pay for it or hide it under covid cost and hope the auditor general doesn’t tell them off again…
So you just choose to believe Seymour who has his own agenda? The man didn't even want the school lunches funded at all prior to the coalition agreement.
 
The neolibs are in the tourism marketing slogans now! Everything must go!!!

Do their marketing have a thing for nicking ideas of musicians? First, it was Eminem. Now, they've nabbed the title of a Manic Steet Preachers album and song (not, realistically, that the MSP could sue the Gummint for using that phrase...)

But, yeah, "Everything Must Go." Shit phrase. How about, oh, "This view would look better if you were here/in it", something enticing, "please come!". "Must" is an order. Whenever someone says "you must do" rather than "should do", it sounds like an order.
 
The failure to understand how Govt finances things. They simply pay for it and add it to the budget, because it is the right thing to do. If we go into deficit, so be it. The positives far outweigh the cost on the electronic ledger.
The previous scheme employed hundreds of local people, the food was healthy, is made fresh at a local/community level and any extras were distributed within said community. It's a win:win.
The new scheme goes to a international corp. They don't care about the quality as is plain to see. It's all about bottom line and profit, which then go overseas.

The power of government finances is unparalleled. The failure to grasp this is precisely why we remain an economic backwater, prioritising short-term accounting over long-term well-being.
The flaw in your arguement is Labour only funded 25% of the schools.

If budgets and worthwhile causes is all that matter, why didn’t they fund 100%.

And why not fund all years of university instead of 1 year. And why not double the health budget. And why not double the police… etc, etc.
 
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