Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[MaybeTop8]

Strong history of NZ intelligence agencies targeting left wing politicians

And the misogynistic right by the looks

 

[Tragic]

Winston has a bit of class at least


View: https://x.com/winstonpeters/status/1890235097116524607?t=0fkthPNmaKgTCTdyT6Isaw&s=19

 

[Worried2Death]

Blame his overstaying parents.

So because his parents were overstayers, he immediately became one too - which means he’s never been here legally.

I do, but that boy is a Kiwi, been here since day 1, he's whanau regardless of whether we changed a law just before he was born. The brother should stay home, this isn't America.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Winston has a bit of class at least


View: https://x.com/winstonpeters/status/1890235097116524607?t=0fkthPNmaKgTCTdyT6Isaw&s=19

He’s making more sense than any of the others… the bar is very very low however.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

He’s making more sense than any of the others… the bar is very very low however.

I’m politically most aligned to NZ first but never voted for them because Peters is self serving.

Has he mellowed with time? Or is this the start of re-opening the door with the left… time will tell.

Anyway if they carry on being the central NZ voice of reason they will win votes.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Nobody but a few fringe people cares until you post it and bought it to everyone’s attention

And the whole article is trying to defend her and focus on the invasion of her privacy - sorry, you did the crime. She has a history now and whenever she’s in a shop the system will be watching her extra carefully. Don’t like it? Don’t steal.

Even though she wasn’t convicted she had stuff in her bag and pretty much admits it. She shows her bad self centered attitude towards the victims of shoplifting and tries to divert attention away from herself saying: ‘Somewhat a bigger scandal for police, Foodstuffs and Auror than any of us having items in our totes in our trollies.’

Wrong attitude you self centered thief. I hope this system keeps watching her like a hawk!

The gravity of the actions of Tim Jago and the lengths that ACT went to cover this up or delay should be of greater concern to all.

Yet those associated with the far right in nz keep posting this crap. Marc Spring and Molloy

Image leaked of Ghahraman during Pak’nSave shopping incident

Ex-MP says blogger's urging to put images on 4Chan is 'like trying to get me killed'.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Ghahraman’s $150 shopping incident: Pak’nSave never complained so how did cops find out?

Police wanted Golriz Ghahraman's new alleged shoplifting claim in her High Court appeal.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[juju]

What's your thoughts on a deliberate breach of a system used for mass surveillance without permission that is supposed to be secure, that the police amazingly have unlimited access to without permission of those surveillance? And then continually leaked? Especially when the person has owned up, been prosecuted and now persecuted?

It's a left wing media hit job if it's a politician he likes and a nothing story if it's not.
Totally ignoring the very obvious breach of privacy and the implications around this.

Even Winston can be mature on this topic but a bit hard for this guy.

 

[defensivebomb]

The gravity of the actions of Tim Jago and the lengths that ACT went to cover this up or delay should be of greater concern to all.

Yet those associated with the far right in nz keep posting this crap. Marc Spring and Molloy

Image leaked of Ghahraman during Pak’nSave shopping incident

Ex-MP says blogger's urging to put images on 4Chan is 'like trying to get me killed'.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Ghahraman’s $150 shopping incident: Pak’nSave never complained so how did cops find out?

Police wanted Golriz Ghahraman's new alleged shoplifting claim in her High Court appeal.

www.nzherald.co.nz

I wouldn’t assume it is exactly the same people doing both

Yes, a coverup is deplorable. And yes, just leave golriz alone, now that she has left parliament and owned up

But the people posting on 4chan aren’t necessarily the same individuals trying to cover up Jago. The 4chan guys are probably a bunch of young incels

 

[defensivebomb]

Whatever the process the parents and government failed to do shouldn’t fall on this innocent kids shoulders.
This is cruel.

The people at immigration nz, who are so accurate in doing their jobs to the letter (to a fault, in this instance) should be redeployed to other areas of public service where their being pedantic is valued. Like KO, kiwi rail, etc

They seem to be the only govt department that is so good at their jobs that they have tidied up all of the bad immigration instances and are now chasing people with very minor infractions.

They should be in charge of KO, strictly adhering to the budget and booting out bad tenants as soon as they break the rules of their tenancies

 

[defensivebomb]

The dumb thing about this whole golriz issue is that if the herald and nz media didn’t report on it, nobody would really even know. Instead, they’ve created public interest by publishing it

now that she has left parliament, owned up, taken it on the chin, who really cares what she does in her spare time?

If there are some people talking about her on 4chan, reporters and the media should just not even report it. I personally don’t care what some incel corner of the internet is doing

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

The dumb thing about this whole golriz issue is that if the herald and nz media didn’t report on it, nobody would really even know. Instead, they’ve created public interest by publishing it

And @MaybeTop8 keeps posting it on here or none of us would know… then claims it’s the right carrying it on

 

[MaybeTop8]

It's a left wing media hit job if it's a politician he likes and a nothing story if it's not.
Totally ignoring the very obvious breach of privacy and the implications around this.

Even Winston can be mature on this topic but a bit hard for this guy.

yeah it's hard work with wiz

 

[MaybeTop8]

The dumb thing about this whole golriz issue is that if the herald and nz media didn’t report on it, nobody would really even know. Instead, they’ve created public interest by publishing it

now that she has left parliament, owned up, taken it on the chin, who really cares what she does in her spare time?

If there are some people talking about her on 4chan, reporters and the media should just not even report it. I personally don’t care what some incel corner of the internet is doing

It's actually a window into how outlets like nzherald and stuff work. For the most part lazy journalism given how much they've cut back on actual journalists, poor editorial control and directives from their right wing owners to favour click bait

Both of those outlets, although they have some great individual journalists, are very right leaning and tend to support the neoliberal orthodoxy. NZME in particular throws it's weight behind Act and National more than any other political spectrum.

Luke Malpass, political editor at Stuff, actually belonged and maybe still does, to the New Zealand Initiative, a far right thinktank, extremely neoliberal, with ties to Atlas.

Luke Malpass on the difficulty with investing in NZ

New Zealand operates one of the most restrictive foreign investment regimes in the developed world, missing out on much needed investment, says a new Research Note from The New Zealand Initiative.<br /> <br /> In Verboten! Kiwi hostility to foreign investment, Luke Malpass and Dr Bryce Wilkinson...

www.nzinitiative.org.nz

 

[juju]

The dumb thing about this whole golriz issue is that if the herald and nz media didn’t report on it, nobody would really even know. Instead, they’ve created public interest by publishing it

now that she has left parliament, owned up, taken it on the chin, who really cares what she does in her spare time?

If there are some people talking about her on 4chan, reporters and the media should just not even report it. I personally don’t care what some incel corner of the internet is doing

It's an issue that should rightly be covered in the media.

It's two fold (or more) -
1. the Aurora Retail Security system and mass surveillance being undertaken on the public by the grocery sector (despite the massive profits)

2. & somebody from the police, Aurora or the supermarket leaking and invading the privacy of a member of the public.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Again and again, manufacture a crisis in government - the epa is being set up to fail

Environmental Protection Authority will end up defaulting on loan if too few developers use government's fast-track process

It plans to repay the loan over five years using application levies from would-be beneficiaries of the shortened route planning approval.

www.rnz.co.nz

 

[MrFrankWhite]

The people at immigration nz, who are so accurate in doing their jobs to the letter (to a fault, in this instance) should be redeployed to other areas of public service where their being pedantic is valued. Like KO, kiwi rail, etc

The people at immigration are inept. They let his parents overstay for 18 years

 

[defensivebomb]

It's an issue that should rightly be covered in the media.

It's two fold (or more) -
1. the Aurora Retail Security system and mass surveillance being undertaken on the public by the grocery sector (despite the massive profits)

2. & somebody from the police, Aurora or the supermarket leaking and invading the privacy of a member of the public.

I agree with both points

I just think the Golriz reporting waters down the journalistic intent of raising awareness of privacy issues, as the Golriz angle is now getting more airtime and debate than the privacy aspect

 

[MaybeTop8]

I agree with both points

I just think the Golriz reporting waters down the journalistic intent of raising awareness of privacy issues, as the Golriz angle is now getting more airtime and debate than the privacy aspect

100%. The investigation should be into how this supposed secure system leaked, and why do police get full access to it at any time for any purpose?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

People starting to ask questions. Same sort of numbers @miket12 was talking about.


View: https://x.com/bayagima/status/1890498621021237695?s=46&t=N6rrXot3pBpvv2hdvhmStw

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

It's actually a window into how outlets like nzherald and stuff work. For the most part lazy journalism given how much they've cut back on actual journalists, poor editorial control and directives from their right wing owners to favour click bait

Both of those outlets, although they have some great individual journalists, are very right leaning and tend to support the neoliberal orthodoxy. NZME in particular throws it's weight behind Act and National more than any other political spectrum.

Luke Malpass, political editor at Stuff, actually belonged and maybe still does, to the New Zealand Initiative, a far right thinktank, extremely neoliberal, with ties to Atlas.

Luke Malpass on the difficulty with investing in NZ

New Zealand operates one of the most restrictive foreign investment regimes in the developed world, missing out on much needed investment, says a new Research Note from The New Zealand Initiative.<br /> <br /> In Verboten! Kiwi hostility to foreign investment, Luke Malpass and Dr Bryce Wilkinson...

www.nzinitiative.org.nz

I’ve mentioned this before however a good mate is quite senior at Stuff, knows Luke Malpass etc. They have a very hard time recruiting opinion writers right of centre, they internally acknowledge they are left biased. It’s the opposite of what you claim.