Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[wizard of Tauranga]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgkThdzX-8

Sorry I asked for lefties, Lennon played guitar right handed

 

[Worried2Death]

Any lefties want to share their vision for 50 years time?

Component of the Eastern Economic Trading Zone as defined in Xi's multi-polar world order.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Component of the Eastern Economic Trading Zone as defined in Xi's multi-polar world order.

So the US lost that chess game and the pawns are owned by the victors?

Was this something the māori agreed to?

 

[miket12]

Sorry I asked for lefties, Lennon played guitar right handed

And, for a man who wanted a world where no one owned any possessions, he died while owning a 1,400m² beachfront house in Florida which included two pools, a 400m² NYC penthouse and a grade two listed Georgian house on a 72-acre estate in Berkshire, UK. I'm guessing being "poor" was his desire for the masses.... just not for himself.... or Yoko who now has a net worth reportedly over $USD 700,000,000.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

And, for a man who wanted a world where no one owned any possessions,

That was material possession.

When he owned personally was immaterial to him

 

[Worried2Death]

So the US lost that chess game and the pawns are owned by the victors?

Was this something the Maori agreed to?

Not sure pawns really ever have self-determination, someone's moving them.
Anyway we're not really chess pieces, we can take that analogy too far.

 

[Worried2Death]

That was material possession.

When he owned personally was immaterial to him

Yeah he was too wasted on smack to care about the material world.

 

[miket12]

Yeah he was too wasted on smack to care about the material world.

Imagine a world of users,
Everyone on smack.
A world of rainbows and butterflies,
And no one gives a fnck!!!

 

[Noitall]

Im neither here nor there about it. But development is not automatically bad. These people dont have running water ffs. Plumbing and sewerage radically improve peoples lives. I just think its western arrogance to get up, have a hot shower and breakfast and then bemoan poor people trying to enjoy the same standards that you do.

Not sure what the fuck you’re on about, I’ve never bemoaned anybody on this topic. The article sites impoverished locals reject the port. I might impoverished but I’m not a local to Peru

 

[Noitall]

Act are giving National the shits big time. Much happier with NZ First.

Yes they managed to work through the drama around the media and nationals Melissa Lee losing her portfolio and the shitshow around Casey Costello

 

[Noitall]

And, for a man who wanted a world where no one owned any possessions, he died while owning a 1,400m² beachfront house in Florida which included two pools, a 400m² NYC penthouse and a grade two listed Georgian house on a 72-acre estate in Berkshire, UK. I'm guessing being "poor" was his desire for the masses.... just not for himself.... or Yoko who now has a net worth reportedly over $USD 700,000,000.

Not sure if he was against people having possessions, just asking people to imagine being without them

 

[MrFrankWhite]

The article sites impoverished locals reject the port.

Okay? Do we always take the civics advice from impoverished subsistence workers?

 

[Worried2Death]

Not sure if he was against people having possessions, just asking people to imagine being without them

No religion, no ownership and the leaders get the best drugs, sounds like a communist party at P Diddy's

 

[Worried2Death]

Okay? Do we always take the civics advice from impoverished subsistence workers?

Lotta people take advice from them, Jesus for example

 

[snake77]

Sorry I asked for lefties, Lennon played guitar right handed

So your wanting Paul McCartney?

Are you asking for Help!

 

[Noitall]

Okay? Do we always take the civics advice from impoverished subsistence workers?

Fuck knows, you’re telling the story now. Just trying to point out there was no western arrogance and just citing the local’s displeasure with the development. No need for your concern though, just another shithole country like NZ that you always bang on about

 

[Worried2Death]

Fuck knows, you’re telling the story now. Just trying to point out there was no western arrogance and just citing the local’s displeasure with the development. No need for your concern though, just another shithole country like NZ that you always bang on about

Probably thinks we're floating islands of garbage too does he

 

[defensivebomb]

And, for a man who wanted a world where no one owned any possessions, he died while owning a 1,400m² beachfront house in Florida which included two pools, a 400m² NYC penthouse and a grade two listed Georgian house on a 72-acre estate in Berkshire, UK. I'm guessing being "poor" was his desire for the masses.... just not for himself.... or Yoko who now has a net worth reportedly over $USD 700,000,000.

He’d have probably argued “but they were held in a trust, and not my personal name, so I’m not a hypocrite”

 

[Funky Ed Koosie]

As a Maori, yesterday was embarrassing for me.

TPM polled at under 3%, Māori in nz population, 15%. They don’t represent all Maori, and whilst I respect their right to protest & in fact welcome it (a country with no ability to protest is a dictatorship), yesterdays antics at parliament overstepped the mark.

There are rules & standards within those 4 walls and these were not upheld. haka, whilst I adore the purpose and tradition, is used to intimidate and scare any opposition, usually incapable of a response. Parliament is not the right place for such & I believe they’re playing firmly into the hands of the act party.

I’m not going to attack or shoot down anyone in support of TPM, as a democracy you’re within your rights to vote and support who you please. But with TPM unwilling to even listen & have a debate actually resembles closer to a dictatorship where you cannot voice your concerns under the guise of supposed morality & racism.

Luxon has no backbone & is fence sitting on the issue, which is doing him no favours in the polls. Disclaimer, I’m not sure if I support acts bill but as a society we should respect their opinion and voice, as we should TPM.

Intimidation & acting how TPM did yesterday does not sit well with me, simply because they don’t believe something should be debated, does not mean you’re entitled to act in such a way. Again, TPM do not represent all Māori, and need to stop acting like they do. There’s also an underlying feeling that I’m a traitor & turning my back on Maori by not agreeing with them, which is a shit feeling of guilt tripping, but I don’t. I believe that everyone in NZ deserves a fair go, and that privilege based on skin colour is an extremely slippery slope that has never, ever ended well for nations.

Bro, the debate and vote happened before the Haka, be embarrassed by cunts doing a haka for athletes who finish 8th at sporting events. ACT brought this bill with no input from māori and are white washing the māori translation of the Treaty.
That Haka in Parliament was one or the greatest I've seen.

 

[Worried2Death]

Bro, the debate and vote happened before the Haka, be embarrassed by cunts doing a haka for athletes who finish 8th at sporting events. ACT brought this bill with no input from Maori and are white washing the Maori translation of the Treaty.
That Haka in Parliament was one or the greatest I've seen.

Could be 50K people when they converge in Welly next week, bigger than the mandate protests. They don't seem to be all TPM supporters either. It all looked a bit manufactured at first but it's gaining it's own momemtum. Should be an eventful week, hope it doesn't turn violent.