Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[Funky Ed Koosie]

Im not "pakeha" you fucking clown

Settle down tiger. We're you criticizing the haka?

 

[juju]

Used for a lot of things. Social media saturation doesnt help. Funerals, sports, education etc. Of course lots of racists are jumping on it, they jump on everything. But the Welcome to County is facing a similar sort of thing here in Aus.

Those are all valid reasons for haka...
As tikanga maori becomes deeper entrenched in the culture, so it seems does the anti maori sentiment festering away.

 

[Noitall]

Used for a lot of things. Social media saturation doesnt help. Funerals, sports, education etc. Of course lots of racists are jumping on it, they jump on everything. But the Welcome to County is facing a similar sort of thing here in Aus.

View: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewarriorholic/video/7297775179340500232

Just in a sporting context, look at the difference between one team celebrating with their culture and the other boring and vanilla

 

[Noitall]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Poor old Luxon slips up on 7x8. Corrected himself quickly though, seems to get flustered easily

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Those are all valid reasons for haka...
As tikanga maori becomes deeper entrenched in the culture, so it seems does the anti maori sentiment festering away.

View: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewarriorholic/video/7297775179340500232

Just in a sporting context, look at the difference between one team celebrating with their culture and the other boring and vanilla

Observation is not criticism.

 

[Noitall]

Observation is not criticism.

There seems to be divisions rising again that seemed to be progressing

 

[Warriorsfan92]

As a Maori, yesterday was embarrassing for me.

TPM polled at under 3%, Māori in nz population, 15%. They don’t represent all Maori, and whilst I respect their right to protest & in fact welcome it (a country with no ability to protest is a dictatorship), yesterdays antics at parliament overstepped the mark.

There are rules & standards within those 4 walls and these were not upheld. haka, whilst I adore the purpose and tradition, is used to intimidate and scare any opposition, usually incapable of a response. Parliament is not the right place for such & I believe they’re playing firmly into the hands of the act party.

I’m not going to attack or shoot down anyone in support of TPM, as a democracy you’re within your rights to vote and support who you please. But with TPM unwilling to even listen & have a debate actually resembles closer to a dictatorship where you cannot voice your concerns under the guise of supposed morality & racism.

Luxon has no backbone & is fence sitting on the issue, which is doing him no favours in the polls. Disclaimer, I’m not sure if I support acts bill but as a society we should respect their opinion and voice, as we should TPM.

Intimidation & acting how TPM did yesterday does not sit well with me, simply because they don’t believe something should be debated, does not mean you’re entitled to act in such a way. Again, TPM do not represent all Māori, and need to stop acting like they do. There’s also an underlying feeling that I’m a traitor & turning my back on Maori by not agreeing with them, which is a shit feeling of guilt tripping, but I don’t. I believe that everyone in NZ deserves a fair go, and that privilege based on skin colour is an extremely slippery slope that has never, ever ended well for nations.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

As a Maori, yesterday was embarrassing for me.

TPM polled at under 3%, Māori in nz population, 15%. They don’t represent all Maori, and whilst I respect their right to protest & in fact welcome it (a country with no ability to protest is a dictatorship), yesterdays antics at parliament overstepped the mark.

There are rules & standards within those 4 walls and these were not upheld. haka, whilst I adore the purpose and tradition, is used to intimidate and scare any opposition, usually incapable of a response. Parliament is not the right place for such & I believe they’re playing firmly into the hands of the act party.

I’m not going to attack or shoot down anyone in support of TPM, as a democracy you’re within your rights to vote and support who you please. But with TPM unwilling to even listen & have a debate actually resembles closer to a dictatorship where you cannot voice your concerns under the guise of supposed morality & racism.

Luxon has no backbone & is fence sitting on the issue, which is doing him no favours in the polls. Disclaimer, I’m not sure if I support acts bill but as a society we should respect their opinion and voice, as we should TPM.

Intimidation & acting how TPM did yesterday does not sit well with me, simply because they don’t believe something should be debated, does not mean you’re entitled to act in such a way. Again, TPM do not represent all Māori, and need to stop acting like they do. There’s also an underlying feeling that I’m a traitor & turning my back on Maori by not agreeing with them, which is a shit feeling of guilt tripping, but I don’t. I believe that everyone in NZ deserves a fair go, and that privilege based on skin colour is an extremely slippery slope that has never, ever ended well for nations.

Thank you for that.

 

[Noitall]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Is this the future for some of our Pacific neighbours that China has taken an interest in?

 

[Funky Ed Koosie]

Tough targets for charter schools will raise achievement

Associate Education Minister David Seymour says that Charter Schools will face a combination of minimum performance thresholds and stretch targets for achievement, attendance and financial sustainability.

www.beehive.govt.nz

35% attendance seen as acceptable from this government. Fucking crazy

 

[Funky Ed Koosie]

Imagine the outrage from the resident racists if Labour school attendance policy was "the poors can have 35% attendance, and the not so poors 60%".
The fucking moron government and it moron supporters strike again.

 

[miket12]

Imagine the outrage from the resident racists if Labour school attendance policy was "the poors can have 35% attendance, and the not so poors 60%".
The fucking moron government and it moron supporters strike again.

Sorry, but you do realise that most of the charter schools closed by Labour were Māori based and a number of Iwi took a claim to the Waitangi Tribunal, stating that the closure impeded the right of ākonga to a quality education.

While I don’t in anyway support ACT, I do think that every avenue that improves outcomes for especially disadvantaged Māori and Pasifika children needs to be explored…. our “one size fits all” policies from both major parties regarding education is letting down too many kids.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Is this the future for some of our Pacific neighbours that China has taken an interest in?

On the edge of Peru’s coastal desert, a remote fishing town where a third of all residents have no running water is being transformed into a huge deep-water port to cash in on the inexorable rise of Chinese interest in resource-rich South America.

Wow, sounds like a utopia currently

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Tough targets for charter schools will raise achievement

Associate Education Minister David Seymour says that Charter Schools will face a combination of minimum performance thresholds and stretch targets for achievement, attendance and financial sustainability.

www.beehive.govt.nz

35% attendance seen as acceptable from this government. Fucking crazy

Across all state schools the average was 53.2% in Term 2 of 2024.

Is that figure acceptable?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Poll released during the period the treaty bill was introduced:

National increased by 3.9 points to 38.8%. Labour up 1.8%

Act was down 1.2 points to 8.5% and Te Pāti Māori was down 0.5 points to 2.5%.

Interesting that support for Act and the Māori party decreased and people are going back to the major parties. Shows where the issue really sits with middle New Zealand.

A side show for the fringe parties..

 

[Noitall]

On the edge of Peru’s coastal desert, a remote fishing town where a third of all residents have no running water is being transformed into a huge deep-water port to cash in on the inexorable rise of Chinese interest in resource-rich South America.

Wow, sounds like a utopia currently

Already struggling, imagine how much harder it gets with fishing depleted in what is already one of their main incomes

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Already struggling, imagine how much harder it gets with fishing depleted in what is already one of their main incomes

Well now they’ll get to work at the port. Let’s just hope Tony Gibson isn’t CEO!

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Already struggling, imagine how much harder it gets with fishing depleted in what is already one of their main incomes

And that income isnt enough to provide running water. Subsistence farming/hunting isn't the idealistic existence Marx made it out to be.

 

[Noitall]

Poll released during the period the treaty bill was introduced:

National increased by 3.9 points to 38.8%. Labour up 1.8%

Act was down 1.2 points to 8.5% and Te Pāti Māori was down 0.5 points to 2.5%.

Interesting that support for Act and the Māori party decreased and people are going back to the major parties. Shows where the issue really sits with middle New Zealand.

A side show for the fringe parties..

Listening to Chris Findlayson on the news and hearing Luxon during the week, it gives me the impression that national are trying to paint Seymour in as negative light as they can. Findlayson congratulated Seymour on the negative light that the haka in parliament has shone on NZ and held Seymour responsible for it in his pursuit of a treaty bill. Luxon has made comments during the week on Seymour chasing this bill as being simplistic. It could make the second part of the term very tricky if Seymour and Luxon are at odds, with Seymour yet to be deputy pm

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I read something about grievance politics awhile back that made me change my ideas.

Go back 4 generations, how would your ancestors view your "struggle"? Would they be proud or embarrassed?