And againWhat about the past year for say the bike lane beside the southern motorway which was installed relatively recently at huge cost and every time I drive down it there’s never any bikes?
The lack of info on cost/ benefit is corrupt
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And againWhat about the past year for say the bike lane beside the southern motorway which was installed relatively recently at huge cost and every time I drive down it there’s never any bikes?
The lack of info on cost/ benefit is corrupt
okay.I'm basing it on the facts presented in the article by marv.
Supplier | Madsen & Green Contracting Ltd - construction |
---|---|
Spent by June 2024 | $307,453 |
Forecast | |
Total | $307,453 |
Supplier | ARA Shelters - Design and Supply |
Spent by June 2024 | $85,000 |
Forecast | |
Total | $85,000 |
Supplier | WSP - Civil Design and Construction Monitoring |
Spent by June 2024 | $36,933 |
Forecast | $2,950 |
Total | $39,883 |
Supplier | Internal Labour |
Spent by June 2024 | $34,370 |
Forecast | $3,296 |
Total | $37,666 |
Supplier | Wellington Electricity (Downer Contractor) |
Spent by June 2024 | $27,639 |
Forecast | |
Total | $27,639 |
Supplier | Tilley Group - Bike racks |
Spent by June 2024 | $26,000 |
Forecast | |
Total | $26,000 |
Supplier | Red Wolf Security - CCTV Cameras supply |
Spent by June 2024 | $19,700 |
Forecast | |
Total | $19,700 |
Supplier | Red Wolf Security - CCTV Cameras install |
Spent by June 2024 | |
Forecast | $10,000 |
Total | $10,000 |
Supplier | Stephenson & Turner - lighting assessment, supply |
Spent by June 2024 | $6,240 |
Forecast | |
Total | $6,240 |
Supplier | Tilley Group - Rubbish bin |
Spent by June 2024 | |
Forecast | $2,440 |
Total | $2,440 |
Supplier | WCC TA - Building Consent Exemption Fee |
Spent by June 2024 | $921 |
Forecast | |
Total | $921 |
My position was pro biking for transport but if we’re spending money on based as a recreation/ sport eg a seperate bike track around the Auckland waterfront front, then it needs to be cost benefit analysis against other sport/ recreation funding.You do know that if more people cycle, walk, take public transport, the health outcomes drastically improve of the population putting less burden on infrastructure, and indeed freeing up the very roads that you all complain about that don't go fast enough.
Seems like we're back in the 1960s in this forum.
I’ve learnt from other posters if we use dramatic language we get a better reaction on hereAnd again
Will you can just piss of then you kaftan wearing, tree hugging, listening to whale recordings, billionaires = enemy, landlords = demons, CCP loving, anti-progress socialist, Jacinda voting Comrade.I’ve learnt from other posters if we use dramatic language we get a better reaction on here
OKAY. ONE LAST TIME. The article you posted Marv - YOU - has a link to the Dom Post article, also with the figures above, figures for the total delivery of all infrastructure, of which the bike rack, which is what you righties are complaining about in the first place, comes in at 136000 - AS QUOTED FROM THE ARTICLE, AS CLEARLY STATED.okay.
ONE.LAST.TIME.
from wellington city council themselves:
Shelling out: the costs
All told, the project cost $562,942.
Supplier Madsen & Green Contracting Ltd - construction Spent by June 2024 $307,453 Forecast Total $307,453 Supplier ARA Shelters - Design and Supply Spent by June 2024 $85,000 Forecast Total $85,000 Supplier WSP - Civil Design and Construction Monitoring Spent by June 2024 $36,933 Forecast $2,950 Total $39,883 Supplier Internal Labour Spent by June 2024 $34,370 Forecast $3,296 Total $37,666 Supplier Wellington Electricity (Downer Contractor) Spent by June 2024 $27,639 Forecast Total $27,639 Supplier Tilley Group - Bike racks Spent by June 2024 $26,000 Forecast Total $26,000 Supplier Red Wolf Security - CCTV Cameras supply Spent by June 2024 $19,700 Forecast Total $19,700 Supplier Red Wolf Security - CCTV Cameras install Spent by June 2024 Forecast $10,000 Total $10,000 Supplier Stephenson & Turner - lighting assessment, supply Spent by June 2024 $6,240 Forecast Total $6,240 Supplier Tilley Group - Rubbish bin Spent by June 2024 Forecast $2,440 Total $2,440 Supplier WCC TA - Building Consent Exemption Fee Spent by June 2024 $921 Forecast Total $921
Table: Sapeer Mayron, Julie Jacobson Source: Wellington City Council
so if you add the two motorcycle parks to the 24 bicycle parks. each park costs taxpayers $21,651.
surely you’re not accusing tory whanau’s green office of right wing echo chamber rhetoric neoliberalism etc?
That's more like it.Will you can just piss of then you kaftan wearing, tree hugging, listening to whale recordings, billionaires = enemy, landlords = demons, CCP loving, anti-progress socialist, Jacinda voting Comrade.
Now.... that's how you get a reaction (or banned)!!!!
did they just bolt a bike rack to an existing wall?OKAY. ONE LAST TIME. The article you posted Marv - YOU - has a link to the Dom Post article, also with the figures above, figures for the total delivery of all infrastructure, of which the bike rack, which is what you righties are complaining about in the first place, comes in at 136000 - AS QUOTED FROM THE ARTICLE, AS CLEARLY STATED.
Have a great night everyone.
If that wall is concrete, I think banging my head against it would be easier than getting him to understand simple maths.... speaking of which, what do people think of the new government trying to improve the maths curriculum... crisis or hoax? Needed or not? Does it matter how we compare to other countries or are the stats fake?did they just bolt a bike rack to an existing wall?
no.
I had a think about this the other day as I occasionally use the bike lane (in summer commuting) and the road (in training).I think one thing Auckland does need is a better waterfront cycle way along Tamaki Drive. The cycle lane is fine for kids but those out for serious road bike training/exercise need somewhere better than what they have away from pedestrians and vehicles. There's already been far too many cyclists injured on there and they also seem to forget the road code when it come to pedestrians legally using marked crossings.
bloody motorcycle parks. $250,000 per park!so if you add the two motorcycle parks to the 24 bicycle parks. each park costs taxpayers $21,651.
I've got a loathe/hate relationship for cyclists training on Tamaki.... not that I'm labeling you in what I'm about to say.I had a think about this the other day as I occasionally use the bike lane (in summer commuting) and the road (in training).
Auckland council has done a pretty crap job to create the cycle lane on Tamaki drive after the ngapipi intersection. The only way to improve it IMHO is to ban parking on Tamaki drive, therefore having a road that is wide enough for both cyclists, drivers and buses. People can park on the side streets
Anyway, I’m not losing sleep on it. Caring is futile
Yeah a lot of cyclists are assholes. I am a runner that occasionally cycles so I don’t count myself among them. But completely understand where you are coming fromI've got a loathe/hate relationship for cyclists training on Tamaki.... not that I'm labeling you in what I'm about to say.
Because of playing hockey for one or two seasons longer than I should have on artificial turf, my knees are pretty knacked these days so while I enjoy walking, I'm not as fast as I used to be. When you're crossing at a pedestrian crossing on Tamaki Drive, cars would obey the road code and stop and wait for you. But, if I saw a bunch of cyclists coming, I wouldn't dare walk out in front of them even when they had plenty of time to stop.... the amount of abuse I and others copped from the Lycra brigade is had to believe as they go flying either in front or behind you without bothering to slow down let alone stop.
But the worst was a group of cyclist all in the same coloured jerseys.... one of them deliberately put his elbow into the back of a pensioner as he flew past him. Poor old guy wasn't badly hurt but was really shaken up. One driver who stopped phoned the police but because it wasn't possible to identify which cyclist had done it, nothing happened.
Leave Mike alone. His neighbour told him what’s best for the countryThat's more like it.
When I was in my late teens, I decided not to play hockey for a season and instead joined up with a running club for the winter with a bunch of friends.... the fact that one was a girl I secretly liked is purely coincidental. At the end of the season, we had our Road Championship event which was a handicapped race, and everyone started off according to their times during previous races that year.Yeah a lot of cyclists are assholes. I am a runner that occasionally cycles so I don’t count myself among them. But completely understand where you are coming from
Funny thing is he's now left NZ and is working for the ATO in Perth so Joe will have to find another neighbour to tell them what's wrong with WA and CanberraLeave Mike alone. His neighbour told him what’s best for the country
It’s like that time that Kevin Barry beat Holyfield at the olympicsWhen I was in my late teens, I decided not to play hockey for a season and instead joined up with a running club for the winter with a bunch of friends.... the fact that one was a girl I secretly like is purely coincidental. At the end of the season, we had our Road Championship event which was a handicapped race, and everyone started off according to their times during previous races that year.
Four of us were entered into the Colts race... but one had to work and another, Aaron Strong who would later represent NZ in World King of the Mountain events, decided to run the seniors longer cause instead meaning there were only two of us left in our division. Because I was slower than him, I got to leave around 40 secs before he did. I had two advantages over him, I was a stronger runner up hill, and I knew the Mt Albert area better than him.
Turns out I had another advantage; I could follow directions, and he couldn't, and he got lost.... so, I'm the Auckland Presbyterian Harriers Club Colts Road Handicap Champion of 1984!!!!
Typical politician. Spreading bullshit all over the placeFunny thing is he's now left NZ and is working for the ATO in Perth so Joe will have to find another neighbour to tell them what's wrong with WA and Canberra
Saddest thing is he claims itIt’s like that time that Kevin Barry beat Holyfield at the olympics
Me or KB?Saddest thing is he claims it