NRL Penrith Panthers

An interesting article. The key thing is they stuck to their plan.

Over the years we have had two rich owners say they will invest in the club and leave no stone unturned. Matt Elliott talk about restructuring the club, Brian Smith hired in a Football Manager type role to look at how everything is run. Gould was hired to do a similar role to what he did at Penrith, the pandemic made that hard but supposedly he left reports etc for the club to follow.

The club has talked about pathways and has got the teams going. The key thing now is to stick to it.

Penrith's success was built on a special group coming through and players capable of replacing those that left coming to maintain their success. Our first step should be develop players to ensure we are competitive each year so we make the 8 and compete more often than not. It also means we are less reliant on recruitment.

As much as the old under 21s competition had it's flaws for our club it did give us a glimpse of what we should be doing. Developing players ready for first grade.
 
An interesting article. The key thing is they stuck to their plan.

Over the years we have had two rich owners say they will invest in the club and leave no stone unturned. Matt Elliott talk about restructuring the club, Brian Smith hired in a Football Manager type role to look at how everything is run. Gould was hired to do a similar role to what he did at Penrith, the pandemic made that hard but supposedly he left reports etc for the club to follow.

The club has talked about pathways and has got the teams going. The key thing now is to stick to it.

Penrith's success was built on a special group coming through and players capable of replacing those that left coming to maintain their success. Our first step should be develop players to ensure we are competitive each year so we make the 8 and compete more often than not. It also means we are less reliant on recruitment.

As much as the old under 21s competition had it's flaws for our club it did give us a glimpse of what we should be doing. Developing players ready for first grade.
A plan has to be adapted to the unique shape of each club.

The Panthers development plan works because they have the largest junior catchment in the comp.

At the opposite end, the roosters buying in players works because they are rich and tied into the Sydney CBD.

What works for us? Do we have the junior playing numbers to copy a Penrith?
 
If he signs the lifetime deal they mention at the bottom it should dispel the rumours about him heading to Super League.

We had someone on here register and push that rumour. They made it seem like the Women's competition over there was huge. His girlfriend may get paid a lot but looking at their attendances the competition is still getting going similar to the NRLW. I assume the Arsenal figures are from being curtain raisers?

He may head there towards the end of his career. But as far as the NRL is concerned I can see him being a one-club player. I know we have his brother here but if they were ever to play together I'd say it would be more likely Jett leaving here to link up with his brother at Penrith.
 
A plan has to be adapted to the unique shape of each club.

The Panthers development plan works because they have the largest junior catchment in the comp.

At the opposite end, the roosters buying in players works because they are rich and tied into the Sydney CBD.

What works for us? Do we have the junior playing numbers to copy a Penrith?
Sure it has to be unique to each club but as I stated we have heard a lot from our club about plans but never stuck to them.

Yes, the Panthers have a large junior base. There are also a lot of kids leaving New Zealand to go to Australian clubs. To me, those numbers are large enough to justify that we should be a development club, not a recruitment-based club. We have a hard time getting the best Australian talent across to Auckland. Having to rely less on recruitment eases that a bit.

Our main issue will be the cost as we need to send the teams across to Australia. If it doesn't turn into first-grade success will they continue to do it or start peeling back a few sides?
 
They’ve signed a kind of friendship agreement with York RLFC. I assume what Penrith will get is the opportunity to send youngsters to England to play championship footy as a learning and toughening up exercise.
 
Interested in everyone’s thoughts about what’s gone wrong at the Panthers 2025?

If a few key players leaving can derail things so much, is there style, which we are copying, the best process? Or was it a golden era with a few generational players (JFH!).

Real test for Cleary’s coaching. Nothing lasts forever but, man, last place is a hell of a fall from grace!
 
Interested in everyone’s thoughts about what’s gone wrong at the Panthers 2025?

If a few key players leaving can derail things so much, is there style, which we are copying, the best process? Or was it a golden era with a few generational players (JFH!).

Real test for Cleary’s coaching. Nothing lasts forever but, man, last place is a hell of a fall from grace!
Who are his assistants this year? They have very obvious weaknesses in the back 5 on defence, and this at the same you've got new young personnel in the 5/8 - I just think the learning curve has been too steep, and they're pretty one-dimensional in the front row now too so there's a lot more slack to be taken up
 
Interested in everyone’s thoughts about what’s gone wrong at the Panthers 2025?

If a few key players leaving can derail things so much, is there style, which we are copying, the best process? Or was it a golden era with a few generational players (JFH!).

Real test for Cleary’s coaching. Nothing lasts forever but, man, last place is a hell of a fall from grace!
It's obviously not just one player leaving that affects their chances just look at last year, it's an accumulation of players over the years leaving. I think JFH and Luai were the final nail in the coffin.
Fisher Harris is a huge part of any teams culture no matter where he goes, and Luai is very outspoken and would also play a pivotal role in any club he's apart of.
 
How do the Storm have new players coming through and they stay in the top 4, year in, year out but the Panthers fall so far?
tbf, it took Penrith 5 years to get to this pt. Melbourne eventually came down too from their dramatic heights earlier in the last decade. Of course never dropping out of the 8, but they did lose primacy to Penrith for a decent period. My sense is Penrith will have a bad year here (maybe still make finals week 1) but come back stronger in the years to come as the players from this year get more experience. Their big problem is that the game plan hasn't changed in 5 years but the players this year can no longer execute that gameplan given they've largely chosen to promote from within. Maybe Ivan's thinking is that it's better to have a bad year now if it means giving their young guns some experience now which they can reap the rewards from in the future. That way they can regaining future extended glory rather than having a return to sustained mediocrity.
 
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