How the fuck is our kicking so bad and unimaginative when we have a legend like Stacey who had beautiful vision and creativity with the ball in hand and boot????? Is he actually just a “yes” man under AW???
Sack the Assistant Coaches
Staff Andrew Webster
- Thread starter tajhay
- Start date
- Coach Grade
- NRL Head Coach
- Date of Birth
- Jan 17, 1982
- Birth Location
- Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
- Nationality
- 🇦🇺 Australia
- Nickname
- Webby
- Warriors Debut Date
- Mar 3, 2023
- Warriors Debut Details
- March 3 2023, Round 1 vs Newcastle Knights at SKY Stadium, Wellington, New Zealand
- Warriors Years Active
- 2015
- 2016
- 2023
- 2024
- Signed From
- Penrith Panthers (Assistant Coach)
- Status
- Active
- Rugby League Project
- https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/coaches/andrew-webster/summary.html
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You definitely won't be happy with that but personally you can't do anything about it whether you accept those positions or not!!
What if the entire squad breaks down? shit like that's out of any coaches control mate.
+1 with SJ now
I'm so over it! Get somebody who can fucken coach!!!!!!Good on you Shaun! Great career but what on earth are you doing near in some coaching capacity!
You couldn't coach the playing group you were with so what makes him think he's ready to teach the kids?
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Same with the commentators+1 with SJ now
Jobs for boys
Adam fucking Blair makes my ears hurt.
Tyrann Wishart usually plays in the halves. On the wing. Nick Meany - full back when Papenhouzen was out last season playing Center.
Take notes Andrew.
Best 17 on the field not by position.
There should be a spot for Taine and Ali ahead of Marcello, and for Christ sakes Ed Fucking Kosi!!!
Take notes Andrew.
Best 17 on the field not by position.
There should be a spot for Taine and Ali ahead of Marcello, and for Christ sakes Ed Fucking Kosi!!!
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He will be channeling his inner dad Rods wing powers today!
Man I was massive fan of Rod Wishart!
Someone can correct me if I am remembering this wrong but my recollection is that Blair opted to retire instead of taking up the player option for the final year of his over priced contract and a short time later we used our salary cap space to sign Addin Fonua Blake for the season that he had the player option for. So maybe that one was a smart business move by the club. I don't enjoy his commentary but if it wasn't him I guess they may just have some other ex player who's no better doing the job.
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Someone can correct me if I am remembering this wrong but my recollection is that Blair opted to retire instead of taking up the player option for the final year of his over priced contract and a short time later we used our salary cap space to sign Addin Fonua Blake for the season that he had the player option for. So maybe that one was a smart business move by the club. I don't enjoy his commentary but if it wasn't him I guess they may just have some other ex player who's no better doing the job.
Communication in many ways is an art form. Some people have it. Others don’t.
Those that don’t need some courses on etiquette. It seems to me most commentators aren’t given any training on how to talk and communicate .
The verbal diahorea that comes out of the mouths of the Aussie commentators
Blocker Roache used to be fucking terrible. One eyed and totally critical of everything. He’s pulled it back a lot now. It comes with experience I guess. Then there’s Mike Ennis who honestly tries to oversell his favourite players and teams like a bad used car salesman.
So I guess kiwi commentators are in good company. The job for boys is strong. And the boys getting these jobs are fucking terrible communicators. The irony.
I have some things to say about Andrew Webster....so as this is his thread will say it here.
In one of his initial interviews he hinted he saw the Warriors as a wonderful opportunity and that he could always move back to Australia 4-5 years later once he had runs on the board as a head coach.
For a split second I was a bit insulted but then realised I would think the same thing if i went and worked in Australia. I might see it as temporary before coming home to NZ. So I then decided it was refreshingly honest of him and have since found him in the two years I have observed him to continue to be very honest and transparent with the Warriors fan base. You may not agree with his decisions but you can see where he is coming from when he make his call.
He has been here two years. First year everything that could go right did go right. 2024 hold my beer because everything that could go wrong. Including the entire spine (even when you include Lock) had an average or below every year. All of them when you factor in injuries.
Despite our poor year the Warriors and Warriors management are backing him for next year. And if he loses his first 7 games in a row to start next season we will still back him.
I hope when Andrew sits back and reflects on 2024 that he is grateful to be at such a supportive club and with such loyal fans.
The key mistakes he made this year were all eminently defendable.
1) We won three games in a row with TMM and CHT and he brought back SJ only for us to start losing again. That was a defendable decision. SJ was Dally M Halfback last year. Not 5 years ago. Last year.
2) Kept backing Tohu Harris even when he seemed to lose his flexibility to bend over or get up quickly of the ground. Very defendable position as Tohu was captain which makes it hard to drop him. Watch for Webster to make JFH captain next year to give him more wiggle room for how to handle Tohu.
I could go on. All of his decisions he made were defendable and reasonable even if it context of the crazy year we were having they led to more losses.
Those two decisions above do show that whatever decisions he makes for the season during pre-season he is going to stick to.
As he matures as a coach he will learn to completely change tact half way through a season.
In round one next year, injuries notwithstanding, we will get a blueprint and will know how many of our 2024 lessons he has addressed and how many we are doomed to relive next year.
Will he recogise that goal kicking is crucial?
Who will be fullback?
And about ten other questions we are all wondering about.
Here is my ranking of Warriors coaches in my tenure since 2017
Hold your underwear there is a surprise below that will upset some of you.
1) Andrew Webster - took us top 4
2) Stpehen Kearney - took us to top 8 - he is my hold your underwear comment. As time goes on he will be remembered more fondly. Had we retained Johnson - which was not SK's fault - we would have made the playoffs several years in a row making him one of the more successful warriors coaches ever. He got us to top 8 with Ken Maumalo on the wing. Let that sink in.
3) Nathan Brown - Useless as a coach but he is and always will the best coach at building a roster in the NRL. Webster's 2023 was based on the team Brown built.
4) Payten - Solid NRL coach. Put him last as his method of announcing his decision to take on Cowboys job over the warriors made him look like he was immature and just wanted to have his mask on TV all the time. He has since settled down for the Cowboys and behaves normally on TV interviews without wanting to say profound headline grabbing comments.
In one of his initial interviews he hinted he saw the Warriors as a wonderful opportunity and that he could always move back to Australia 4-5 years later once he had runs on the board as a head coach.
For a split second I was a bit insulted but then realised I would think the same thing if i went and worked in Australia. I might see it as temporary before coming home to NZ. So I then decided it was refreshingly honest of him and have since found him in the two years I have observed him to continue to be very honest and transparent with the Warriors fan base. You may not agree with his decisions but you can see where he is coming from when he make his call.
He has been here two years. First year everything that could go right did go right. 2024 hold my beer because everything that could go wrong. Including the entire spine (even when you include Lock) had an average or below every year. All of them when you factor in injuries.
Despite our poor year the Warriors and Warriors management are backing him for next year. And if he loses his first 7 games in a row to start next season we will still back him.
I hope when Andrew sits back and reflects on 2024 that he is grateful to be at such a supportive club and with such loyal fans.
The key mistakes he made this year were all eminently defendable.
1) We won three games in a row with TMM and CHT and he brought back SJ only for us to start losing again. That was a defendable decision. SJ was Dally M Halfback last year. Not 5 years ago. Last year.
2) Kept backing Tohu Harris even when he seemed to lose his flexibility to bend over or get up quickly of the ground. Very defendable position as Tohu was captain which makes it hard to drop him. Watch for Webster to make JFH captain next year to give him more wiggle room for how to handle Tohu.
I could go on. All of his decisions he made were defendable and reasonable even if it context of the crazy year we were having they led to more losses.
Those two decisions above do show that whatever decisions he makes for the season during pre-season he is going to stick to.
As he matures as a coach he will learn to completely change tact half way through a season.
In round one next year, injuries notwithstanding, we will get a blueprint and will know how many of our 2024 lessons he has addressed and how many we are doomed to relive next year.
Will he recogise that goal kicking is crucial?
Who will be fullback?
And about ten other questions we are all wondering about.
Here is my ranking of Warriors coaches in my tenure since 2017
Hold your underwear there is a surprise below that will upset some of you.
1) Andrew Webster - took us top 4
2) Stpehen Kearney - took us to top 8 - he is my hold your underwear comment. As time goes on he will be remembered more fondly. Had we retained Johnson - which was not SK's fault - we would have made the playoffs several years in a row making him one of the more successful warriors coaches ever. He got us to top 8 with Ken Maumalo on the wing. Let that sink in.
3) Nathan Brown - Useless as a coach but he is and always will the best coach at building a roster in the NRL. Webster's 2023 was based on the team Brown built.
4) Payten - Solid NRL coach. Put him last as his method of announcing his decision to take on Cowboys job over the warriors made him look like he was immature and just wanted to have his mask on TV all the time. He has since settled down for the Cowboys and behaves normally on TV interviews without wanting to say profound headline grabbing comments.
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I saw it the opposite way, he came clean with us about his intentions after recording a load of disingenous PR shite because it didn't sit right with him, so full credit to him.
I belive in webby he needs more time. Unless we are getting Ivan Cleary back, then webby is the man for the future.
We are not letting webby go after a string of losses, but we do need to see growth. If we were a glamorous club he would be under immense pressure!
So hopefully we have grown and learnt as a club and not act like a glamour club and the go sign somebody stupid like Bluey Mac.
We are not letting webby go after a string of losses, but we do need to see growth. If we were a glamorous club he would be under immense pressure!
So hopefully we have grown and learnt as a club and not act like a glamour club and the go sign somebody stupid like Bluey Mac.
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So what happened as I wasn't here then with Bluey Mac? Did we let Ivan go in Favour of Bluey?
That's okay, you're new here
Ivan wanted a long term contract, club didn't want to give it to him. Gould snapped him up for Penrith.
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Post Bluey (end of 2012), management didn't want to wait a year for Bellamy (who was contracted for 2013), so picked Matthew Elliott. Lol.That's okay, you're new here
Ivan wanted a long term contract, club didn't want to give it to him. Gould snapped him up for Penrith.
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the same Matt Elliot that the Panthers sacked to get Cleary.
If you don't laugh you cry.
I remember Bluey had a string of games where we were leading by 20 points and they got run down in the last quarter, then they sacked him. lol.
Man Robinson/George were brutal to SJ and Kearney early on, obviously whatever worked at their primary business blew up in their faces, they did learn and humble themselves so hopefully Webby can be the same after the 2nd year syndrome, bounce back like the Sharks and Cowboys coaches eh
Man Robinson/George were brutal to SJ and Kearney early on, obviously whatever worked at their primary business blew up in their faces, they did learn and humble themselves so hopefully Webby can be the same after the 2nd year syndrome, bounce back like the Sharks and Cowboys coaches eh
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