Politics π€‘ Donald Trump
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The guy who was making jokes about a woman being shot in the head
Having a cry about someone guessing theyβre over 40β¦ which they areβ¦
I guess that tells me all i need to know.
Reading the words of Billy Bragg this morning, from his F/b page
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Itβs becoming increasingly clear that TΡumpβs supporters think America was great when women, Blacks, Latinos, gays and commies knew their place. Since the civil rights reforms of the 1960s, liberal democracy has levelled up the playing field, bringing the out-groups in, requiring those at the top of the hierarchy to show respect to those they once looked down on. If you have a zero-sum world view, respect shown to people who arenβt like you feels like a loss for you and your values and, as weβve been told over and over, many of TΡumpβs supporters say the voted for him because they donβt feel they get the respect they deserve.
But earning respect is hard. In order to get people to admire you for your qualities, you have to live up to them, especially in adversity. Much easier then to get respect by making people afraid of you. What ICE is doing in Minneapolis - raiding workplaces, stopping people on the streets to demand papers, harassing people of colour, displaying a bullish sense of immunity - is purely performative. If ICE really wanted to find illegal immigrants, they are more likely to be down at the southern border rather than the northern. The point of deploying ICE in Minneapolis is to strike fear into those who TΡump regime has demonised, forcing them to show respect to the white male heterosexual Christian status quo.
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Itβs becoming increasingly clear that TΡumpβs supporters think America was great when women, Blacks, Latinos, gays and commies knew their place. Since the civil rights reforms of the 1960s, liberal democracy has levelled up the playing field, bringing the out-groups in, requiring those at the top of the hierarchy to show respect to those they once looked down on. If you have a zero-sum world view, respect shown to people who arenβt like you feels like a loss for you and your values and, as weβve been told over and over, many of TΡumpβs supporters say the voted for him because they donβt feel they get the respect they deserve.
But earning respect is hard. In order to get people to admire you for your qualities, you have to live up to them, especially in adversity. Much easier then to get respect by making people afraid of you. What ICE is doing in Minneapolis - raiding workplaces, stopping people on the streets to demand papers, harassing people of colour, displaying a bullish sense of immunity - is purely performative. If ICE really wanted to find illegal immigrants, they are more likely to be down at the southern border rather than the northern. The point of deploying ICE in Minneapolis is to strike fear into those who TΡump regime has demonised, forcing them to show respect to the white male heterosexual Christian status quo.
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Amongst all the back and forth this is an interesting concept to explore.
If you donβt control your borders, how do you plan social services, school, hospitals, etc if floods of unexpected people can just turn up? How do you ensure security if people of different mindset want to come eg a murder fleeing another country? Do you have to right to stop anyone?
Taking it to the logical conclusion with no lines in a map, do you believe in private ownership of your own property? If a squatter wants to live in your guest bedroom, what is the philosophical difference to an illegal immigrant demanding access to a country? I see the same underlying issues.
Iβm not interesting in arguing, I genuinely want to explore this. I see maintaining borders as the only way to plan, protect a way of life and ensure a cohesive society.
View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/cFRA3GCqGTw
Itβs no wonder there thereβs a lack of trust in the enforcement when youβre about to film footage like this nowadays. Obviously taken by surprise the way the agent comes over to usher her away but really not offering any resistance to justify the knees to the face, and the last one seems like an Iβll do because I can shot