Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[Inruin]

I reckon Muller's not fair game either. He seemed like a decent bloke and National was full of sharks circling, hugely toxic at the time. They threw him to the wolves, Collins and Bridges loved seeing him eviscerated.

I think the opposition and media did too. He took his opportunity so is equally as much of a shark as anyone. He was out of his depth though and didn't handle a fairly easy issue well at all. He was never going to get far as leader if his mental health was that fragile, as sad as that is

 

[Noitall]

I reckon Muller's not fair game either. He seemed like a decent bloke and National was full of sharks circling, hugely toxic at the time. They threw him to the wolves, Collins and Bridges loved seeing him eviscerated.

That’s the environment you’re in unfortunately. Shape up or ship out. The green mp is the fodder at present.

 

[John Nick]

The great politician, Mel Meninga says hi

I think the opposition and media did too. He took his opportunity so is equally as much of a shark as anyone. He was out of his depth though and didn't handle a fairly easy issue well at all. He was never going to get far as leader if his mental health was that fragile, as sad as that is

The party was in turmoil and the senior members like Brownlee and Collins didn't have the balls to go to the rescue.
How are they still in senior positions .
That's right throw a newbie to the wolves

 

[Worried2Death]

Are they? I would argue Labours social engineering was a big factor in people being turned off them…

Aotearoa has only been used by the left and is now a symbol of social engineering.

I quite liked the name but got turned off it when it was forced in our faces rather than a natural community led move for change.

Again it’s offensive trying to remove European history and Maorify everything that they have no right to claim (Auckland name)

Or it's clandestine far-right lobby groups like Atlas stirring up the rednecks with divisive rhetoric. Or a bit of both, but I blame Altlas Network for everything shady going on now.

 

[Damo]

Watching the cricket, where’s this Tamaki Makarau that it’s played? Its Auckland!

Oh… it’s on TVNZ… where the social engineering is strong. Thought you were sorting it out Winston?

And I will back up my argument. Lots of cities have European and lots have Maori names (Tauranga, Rotorua, Whangarei, Taupo, etc). These cities have a long history behind the names. Would the Maori like it if a Europeans decided to rename Tauranga to say Wizardton? It would be offensive and disrespectful to history. I’m entitled to the same view the other way. Auckland was a European settlement like Tauranga was predominantly Maori.

Let history be history and stop social engineering. Go get ‘em Winston!

What is wrong with using both? I am watching the same broadcast and they have not renamed Auckland and have in fact used both names.

 

[Inruin]

Or it's clandestine far-right lobby groups like Atlas stirring up the rednecks with divisive rhetoric. Or a bit of both, but I blame Altlas Network for everything shady going on now.

What happened to Blackrock being the dark force behind everything? Is that still the case? Or them investing in NZ changed that perception? Or are they influencing us with their investment?

Watch out for the organisations with the villain names. Blackrock. Atlas Network.

 

[Noitall]

The party was in turmoil and the senior members like Brownlee and Collins didn't have the balls to go to the rescue.
How are they still in senior positions .
That's right throw a newbie to the wolves

Collins was leader and still going strong, minister of space now. Earned re-election after being stripped of portfolios after a conflict of interest. She has what it takes to be a politician, she’s a bitch to put nicely.

 

[Inruin]

Collins was leader and still going strong, minister of space now. Earned re-election after being stripped of portfolios after a conflict of interest. She has what it takes to be a politician, she’s a bitch to put nicely.

Alleged conflict of interest

 

[John Nick]

Collins was leader and still going strong, minister of space now. Earned re-election after being stripped of portfolios after a conflict of interest. She has what it takes to be a politician, she’s a bitch to put nicely.

She waited until Muller fainted.
Should have been there to step up when Bridges bailed

 

[Noitall]

She waited until Muller fainted.
Should have been there to step up when Bridges bailed

Think muller was weaker than they anticipated.

 

[Worried2Death]

What happened to Blackrock being the dark force behind everything? Is that still the case? Or them investing in NZ changed that perception? Or are the influencing us with their investment?

Watch out for the organisations with the villain names. Blackrock. Atlas Network.

That's so 2020, never mind about that now that Blackrock's going alright in my Kiwisaver, we're onto the next conspiracy now.

 

[Noitall]

Alleged conflict of interest

Enough to lose her portfolios so likely something untoward.

 

[John Nick]

Think muller was weaker than they anticipated.

Weaker than even he anticipated and thats not a criticism.
I was disappointed in Brownlee not putting his hand up but his cockups in Christchurch were bugging him and still haven't been resolved 100.

 

[Inruin]

Enough to lose her portfolios so likely something untoward.

Yes, allegedly

 

[Noitall]

Weaker than even he anticipated and thats not a criticism.
I was disappointed in Brownlee not putting his hand up but his cockups in Christchurch were bugging him and still haven't been resolved 100.

Will be interesting what an inquiry coming up into insurers handling of the Christchurch earthquakes turns up?

 

[Noitall]

Yes, allegedly

Is that like the greens mp allegedly stealing?

 

[John Nick]

Alleged conflict of interest

Similar to alleged Shoplifting.
Or is that something different,??

 

[Inruin]

Is that like the greens mp allegedly stealing?

Sarcasm obviously doesn't translate well in text. Just highlighting that some jump quickly to the defence of the left and use the allegedly call but they aren't consistent at all when it comes down to it. In both the alleged greens mp case and alleged Judith Collins conflict of interest.

 

[John Nick]

Sarcasm obviously doesn't translate well in text. Just highlighting that some jump quickly to the defence of the left and use the allegedly call but they aren't consistent at all when it comes down to it. In both the alleged greens mp case and alleged Judith Collins conflict of interest.

Wtf are you mumbling about??

 

[Noitall]

Sarcasm obviously doesn't translate well in text. Just highlighting that some jump quickly to the defence of the left and use the allegedly call but they aren't consistent at all when it comes down to it. In both the alleged greens mp case and alleged Judith Collins conflict of interest.

That was my point too, just without the sarcasm.
Not sure I buy all this left/right bullshit as anything rather than trying to discredit the perceived other side apart from far right and far left. I’m sure I would be perceived as left but I believe in the death penalty, which isn’t very left in what’s perceived. Not everything falls comfortably into a category