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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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Yet your last post implies that nationals dismal results of 2020 was all down to covid? I’ll return your mmm.
National was ahead in the polls precovid and Labour was going to be a one term government. We all acknowledge Jacinda did a great job of the early part of the Pandemic which National didn’t have an answer to. It was Labours to lose and they did a good job.

The handling of the later parts of the pandemic are acknowledged even within Labour as handled poorly.

Every country has had ongoing economic effects but in lots of statistics we are going worse than a lot of other countries due to Labours policies.
 
Yet your last post implies that nationals dismal results of 2020 was all down to covid? I’ll return your mmm.
Majority of it was IMO. Prior to it Labour was already sliding and National were in the low 40's with polling and Bridges leading. COVID came along, people wanted stability under uncertain times and fair enough. Their initial response was good and gave people some confidence in that. Poll results started to slide and National foolishly thought a change of leadership could reverse that - they were never going to win it but they made it worse with the multiple leadership changes and lack of stability when that is what voters were looking for. Once COVID hit the election was pretty much decided, it was just a question of by how much. If Labour got in in their achievements, results and policies then what happened in the next period for them to lose effectively half their vote?
 
National was ahead in the polls precovid and Labour was going to be a one term government. We all acknowledge Jacinda did a great job of the early part of the Pandemic which National didn’t have an answer to. It was Labours to lose and they did a good job.

The handling of the later parts of the pandemic are acknowledged even within Labour as handed poorly.

Every country has had ongoing economic effects but in lots of statistics we are going worse than a lot of other countries due to Labours policies.
Even you have to admit that the affects of covid began at the top of the world and we were one of the last to be affected.
Same goes with the aftermath.
Results will be delayed here
 
Every country has had ongoing economic effects but in lots of statistics we are going worse than a lot of other countries due to Labours policies.
The next 3 years will be telling, certainly will be expecting results with a complete change of direction because with so many countries facing the same challenges as ourselves in so many of the same areas, that excuse of it being all labours fault will wear thin.
 
Watching the cricket, where’s this Tamaki Makarau that it’s played? Its Auckland!

Oh… it’s on TVNZ… where the social engineering is strong. Thought you were sorting it out Winston?

And I will back up my argument. Lots of cities have European and lots have māori names (Tauranga, Rotorua, Whangarei, Taupo, etc). These cities have a long history behind the names. Would the māori like it if a Europeans decided to rename Tauranga to say Wizardton? It would be offensive and disrespectful to history. I’m entitled to the same view the other way. Auckland was a European settlement like Tauranga was predominantly māori.

Let history be history and stop social engineering. Go get ‘em Winston!
 
Watching the cricket, where’s this Tamaki Makarau that it’s played? Its Auckland!

Oh… it’s on TVNZ… where the social engineering is strong. Thought you were sorting it out Winston?

And I will back up my argument. Lots of cities have European and lots have māori names (Tauranga, Rotorua, Whangarei, Taupo, etc). These cities have a long history behind the names. Would the māori like it if a Europeans decided to rename Tauranga to say Wizardton? It would be offensive and disrespectful to history. I’m entitled to the same view the other way. Auckland was a European settlement like Tauranga was predominantly māori.

Let history be history and stop social engineering. Go get ‘em Winston!
This is what I think is going to hurt national in the long run, a majority of the country is moving towards embracing this.
 
This is what I think is going to hurt national in the long run, a majority of the country is moving towards embracing this.
Are they? I would argue Labours social engineering was a big factor in people being turned off them…

Aotearoa has only been used by the left and is now a symbol of social engineering.

I quite liked the name but got turned off it when it was forced in our faces rather than a natural community led move for change.

Again it’s offensive trying to remove European history and Maorify everything that they have no right to claim (Auckland name)
 
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Muller's two weeks as leader were memorable.
I think only nick smiths breakdown when approached by cameras about favourable treatment for bronwyn puller compares as mullers capitulation on camera. The john key/mccaw handshake was pretty cringeworthy as was him having to apologise for pulling a waitress’s hair. I could watch it on a montage for days.
 
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