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Bought my wife a classic (well 2009) Mini Cooper for her birthday.

As a summer car (toy) with the roof down its awesome!
 
Bought my wife a classic (well 2009) Mini Cooper for her birthday.

As a summer car (toy) with the roof down its awesome!
Not the best car I've ever owned but the one that brought the biggest smile to my face was a '72 Mini estate (think Mini van with a back seat and windows). Was big enough to take my seven-piece drum kit and one other passenger (two if one was prepared to seat in the back with a floor tom on their lap).
 
A High Court judge overturned Liz Gunn’s Auckland Airport assault conviction, citing a miscarriage of justice.

Justice Mary Peters ruled the interaction fell within acceptable physical contact and was not assault. She described it as trivial.


Anyone whose seem the video was thinking WTF is she being prosecuted for? Political stitch up? At least justice has prevailed but questions should be asked about why the police pushed the case…
 
A High Court judge overturned Liz Gunn’s Auckland Airport assault conviction, citing a miscarriage of justice.

Justice Mary Peters ruled the interaction fell within acceptable physical contact and was not assault. She described it as trivial.


Anyone whose seem the video was thinking WTF is she being prosecuted for? Political stitch up? At least justice has prevailed but questions should be asked about why the police pushed the case…
Free Liz Gunn!
 
A High Court judge overturned Liz Gunn’s Auckland Airport assault conviction, citing a miscarriage of justice.

Justice Mary Peters ruled the interaction fell within acceptable physical contact and was not assault. She described it as trivial.


Anyone whose seem the video was thinking WTF is she being prosecuted for? Political stitch up? At least justice has prevailed but questions should be asked about why the police pushed the case…
Why did the police push the case? Because she is Liz Gunn ;)
 
What’s your thoughts on these @miket12 ? $630k build price for some containers that look like ‘dog kennels’ (local term).

Has the price per m dropped post covid?

While a number of people consider pre-fab houses built overseas are the answer for the cost of building, the problem is ensuring compliance with the NZ Building Code.... there's a number of complexes where councils are refusing to issue CCC's. That's not an issue for rental/social housing units but is for "spec" houses which cannot be sold without one. A number of businesses which have tried to build them in NZ or relied on overseas plants have gone under.

Cost per m² for the "cheapest" build is $3,500 pm² currently. It depends on when you consider COVID ended as to when you take the cost per m² from. According to the Cordell Construction index, the price per m² at the end of the last lockdown (Dec. 2021) was $2,980 pm² and the cost when the last COVID restriction was lifted (Aug. 2023) was $3,450 pm². So, depending on when you consider post-COVID started, the cost to build a "cheap" house in NZ has risen between $50 to $520 pm².

One of the things we aren't told was construction inflation from when the Labour government came into power (on a mandate of making housing more affordable) rose on average 5.7% each year (over a $1,000 pm² increase or $170 pm² average each year) yet under the current government it dropped from 8.7%PA (12 months before the election) to 2.0%PA (a $50 pm² increase) in the twelve months figures are available from the last election.

That said, I fear for when FOMO kicks in again and developers start going crazy overpaying for sections and the increased demand for building products will lead to an inevitable rise in construction costs.
 
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While a number of people consider pre-fab houses built overseas are the answer for the cost of building, the problem is ensuring compliance with the NZ Building Code.... there's a number of complexes where councils are refusing to issue CCC's. That's not an issue for rental/social housing units but is for "spec" houses which cannot be sold without one. A number of businesses which have tried to build them in NZ or relied on overseas plants have gone under.

Cost per m² for the "cheapest" build is $3,500 pm² currently. It depends on when you consider COVID ended as to when you take the cost per m² from. According to the Cordell Construction index, the price per m² at the end of the last lockdown (Dec. 2021) was $2,980 pm² and the cost when the last COVID restriction was lifted (Aug. 2023) was $3,450 pm². So, depending on when you consider post-COVID started, the cost to build a "cheap" house in NZ has risen between $50 to $520 pm².

One of the things we aren't told was construction inflation from when the Labour government came into power (on a mandate of making housing more affordable) rose on average 5.7% each year (over a $1,000 pm² increase or $170 pm² average each year) yet under the current government it dropped from 8.7%PA (12 months before the election) to 2.0%PA (a $50 pm² increase) in the twelve months figures are available from the last election.

That said, I fear for when FOMO kicks in again and developers start going crazy overpaying of sections and the increased demand for building products will lead to an inevitable rise in construction costs.
Also, here's a reminder to house owners.... if your house insurance policy isn't a "total replacement policy" but is based on a m² rate, you need to review the insured amount. Since the Christchurch earthquakes most new policies and most of the existing policies are now based on a per meter payout.

You don't want anything to happen to your place when the amount you were insured for was $2,400 pm² but could now cost $3,600 pm² to rebuild a house. Instead of getting a $720,000 payout to rebuild your 200m² house, you'd only receive $480,000 from the insurance company meaning you need to come up with an extra $240,000 yourself or only build a 135m² house.
 

Owning vs renting in New Zealand – which is cheaper?​

At some point in their lives, Kiwis will be asking this question.

Whenever first-time buyers run their sums, they are often surprised that owning a home can be much more expensive than renting one. Not only do they have to shoulder the weight of a hefty mortgage, but they also have to pay local council rates, insurance, and maintenance costs - all of which the landlord pays if they rent.

So what is cheaper - owning or renting? The answer depends. Owning costs less but only over time. To illustrate this, let’s use a property that’s currently on the market for rent for $650 a week. It’s a three-bedroom, one-bathroom brick-and-tile house in South Auckland.

Let’s say you decide to rent it, then the landlord offers to sell it to you. According to the OneRoof valuation, the property is worth $965,000, which is more than what the average Aucklander spends on their first home but is close to the average Auckland sale price.

Most home buyers need a 20% deposit, so based on the OneRoof estimate that’s $193,000 you’d need to save. And although you could rent the property for $650 a week, it’d cost around $1125 a week to own. That’s because it’s not just your $1010 mortgage repayment you need to worry about. Your council rates can easily cost $63 a week and your insurance and maintenance costs are another $52 a week.

So, initially, owning this property might cost $475 more per week than renting it.

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But renting becomes more expensive than owning over time. That’s because rents tend to go up over time, but your mortgage repayment stays the same (as long as your interest rate doesn’t change). Sure, the cost of rates, insurance, and maintenance keep going up, but overall, the cost of renting tends to rise faster than the cost of owning a property.

So, at some point, renting starts to cost more. In this example, after about 14 years, renting becomes more expensive than owning this property, in terms of the actual money coming out of your bank account.

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Once you eventually pay off your mortgage, the cost of owning drops considerably. This sounds obvious. But putting numbers around it makes the principle clearer. This is the reason why retirees who rent struggle much more than retirees who have paid off their mortgages.

So, how long does it usually take for owning to become cheaper than renting?

More affordable properties tend to become cheaper to own more quickly. Expensive properties tend to take longer for owning to pay off. That’s because as properties get more expensive, landlords can’t charge as much rent.

So, an affordable townhouse in Christchurch might take eight years for owning to become cheaper than renting. But, an expensive mansion in Remuera will take much, much longer.

Ultimately, these numbers aren’t bulletproof. If interest rates fall, then homeowners’ mortgages become cheaper. That brings down the cost of owning, while renters often still face rising rents. So when interest rates fall owning becomes cheaper sooner. On the other hand, when interest rates rise, mortgage repayments often rise faster than rents. So owning takes longer to pay off.

It’s important to point out that these numbers haven’t factored in the potential increase in wealth from your property increasing in value, or the mortgage going down. They also don’t include what happens if you rent and have invested any extra cash in shares.

That’s because ultimately, the decision about whether to own or rent comes down to more than just the sums on a specific property.

There are practical considerations, like whether you can get the deposit together, and if you are willing to live in the properties you can afford. But there are also psychological impacts. For example, you may feel more secure knowing that a property investor can’t give you notice to move out.

- Ed McKnight is the economist at property investment company Opes Partners
 
Bank of China (who I personally wouldn't borrow from) have now dropped their 6-month mortgage rate to the lowest currently available in NZ to 5.85%.

Over the weekend, I was asked by a couple who brought their first house a few years ago (and so haven't experienced a "fall" in interest rates before) when the best time would be to stop re-fixing at 6-months and go for a longer term. I told them the best thing to do is watch what the banks are doing.... while they're still dropping the interest rates down and the NZRB is dropping the OCR rate, keep re-fixing for a short period but once it seems interest rates have reached the bottom (when banks are no longer dropping them) then re-fix for the lowest rate and keep doing that until we hit the upwards cycle again then re-fix for the longest possible time.
 
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While a number of people consider pre-fab houses built overseas are the answer for the cost of building, the problem is ensuring compliance with the NZ Building Code.... there's a number of complexes where councils are refusing to issue CCC's. That's not an issue for rental/social housing units but is for "spec" houses which cannot be sold without one. A number of businesses which have tried to build them in NZ or relied on overseas plants have gone under.

Cost per m² for the "cheapest" build is $3,500 pm² currently. It depends on when you consider COVID ended as to when you take the cost per m² from. According to the Cordell Construction index, the price per m² at the end of the last lockdown (Dec. 2021) was $2,980 pm² and the cost when the last COVID restriction was lifted (Aug. 2023) was $3,450 pm². So, depending on when you consider post-COVID started, the cost to build a "cheap" house in NZ has risen between $50 to $520 pm².

One of the things we aren't told was construction inflation from when the Labour government came into power (on a mandate of making housing more affordable) rose on average 5.7% each year (over a $1,000 pm² increase or $170 pm² average each year) yet under the current government it dropped from 8.7%PA (12 months before the election) to 2.0%PA (a $50 pm² increase) in the twelve months figures are available from the last election.

That said, I fear for when FOMO kicks in again and developers start going crazy overpaying for sections and the increased demand for building products will lead to an inevitable rise in construction costs.
Damn! I put off a building project due to covid for a 500m building for a business and now the build cost has gone up $500k?

And we wonder why no one wants to expand business in NZ. We’re so damn expensive and make minimal profits to cover it!
 

Owning vs renting in New Zealand – which is cheaper?​

At some point in their lives, Kiwis will be asking this question.

Whenever first-time buyers run their sums, they are often surprised that owning a home can be much more expensive than renting one. Not only do they have to shoulder the weight of a hefty mortgage, but they also have to pay local council rates, insurance, and maintenance costs - all of which the landlord pays if they rent.

So what is cheaper - owning or renting? The answer depends. Owning costs less but only over time. To illustrate this, let’s use a property that’s currently on the market for rent for $650 a week. It’s a three-bedroom, one-bathroom brick-and-tile house in South Auckland.

Let’s say you decide to rent it, then the landlord offers to sell it to you. According to the OneRoof valuation, the property is worth $965,000, which is more than what the average Aucklander spends on their first home but is close to the average Auckland sale price.

Most home buyers need a 20% deposit, so based on the OneRoof estimate that’s $193,000 you’d need to save. And although you could rent the property for $650 a week, it’d cost around $1125 a week to own. That’s because it’s not just your $1010 mortgage repayment you need to worry about. Your council rates can easily cost $63 a week and your insurance and maintenance costs are another $52 a week.

So, initially, owning this property might cost $475 more per week than renting it.

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But renting becomes more expensive than owning over time. That’s because rents tend to go up over time, but your mortgage repayment stays the same (as long as your interest rate doesn’t change). Sure, the cost of rates, insurance, and maintenance keep going up, but overall, the cost of renting tends to rise faster than the cost of owning a property.

So, at some point, renting starts to cost more. In this example, after about 14 years, renting becomes more expensive than owning this property, in terms of the actual money coming out of your bank account.

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Once you eventually pay off your mortgage, the cost of owning drops considerably. This sounds obvious. But putting numbers around it makes the principle clearer. This is the reason why retirees who rent struggle much more than retirees who have paid off their mortgages.

So, how long does it usually take for owning to become cheaper than renting?

More affordable properties tend to become cheaper to own more quickly. Expensive properties tend to take longer for owning to pay off. That’s because as properties get more expensive, landlords can’t charge as much rent.

So, an affordable townhouse in Christchurch might take eight years for owning to become cheaper than renting. But, an expensive mansion in Remuera will take much, much longer.

Ultimately, these numbers aren’t bulletproof. If interest rates fall, then homeowners’ mortgages become cheaper. That brings down the cost of owning, while renters often still face rising rents. So when interest rates fall owning becomes cheaper sooner. On the other hand, when interest rates rise, mortgage repayments often rise faster than rents. So owning takes longer to pay off.

It’s important to point out that these numbers haven’t factored in the potential increase in wealth from your property increasing in value, or the mortgage going down. They also don’t include what happens if you rent and have invested any extra cash in shares.

That’s because ultimately, the decision about whether to own or rent comes down to more than just the sums on a specific property.

There are practical considerations, like whether you can get the deposit together, and if you are willing to live in the properties you can afford. But there are also psychological impacts. For example, you may feel more secure knowing that a property investor can’t give you notice to move out.

- Ed McKnight is the economist at property investment company Opes Partners
Another thing to consider when you see this.... if the property in this example was instead brought by a landlord who continued renting it out at $650 PW, he would need to boast up the payments to cover the mortgage by that $475 PW to cover the costs.... except, he also has tax to pay on top of that. But what about the capital gain.... $475 x 52 weeks x 14 years = $345,800 increase in capital gain just to breakeven. Except if a CGT is brought in and you're looking at over 20 years of a landlord owning that property before he breaks even.
 
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