Yeah. Thin end of the wedge
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Still not right imo
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Watch: Damning report reveals cause of HMNZS Manawanui's sinking off Samoa
The interim Court of Inquiry’s report blames incident on 'human error'.
Awkward!Watch: Damning report reveals cause of HMNZS Manawanui's sinking off Samoa
The interim Court of Inquiry’s report blames incident on 'human error'.www.nzherald.co.nz
Heads have to roll for this.Watch: Damning report reveals cause of HMNZS Manawanui's sinking off Samoa
The interim Court of Inquiry’s report blames incident on 'human error'.
Mistakes happen but this is actually ridiculous.
Which persons head?
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The old not adjust for inflation trick? In 20 years someone on the average wage will be caught in it?
We’ve seen it with tax brackets creep; brightline (2 to 10 years); GST (10 to 15%), etc, etc.
That’s why we can’t let wealth or capital gains taxes come in. Sell it as hammering the top 1% and before we know it they will be after the tax on our home!
I will leave that for the appropriate people to make that decision I’m not a Naval Experts asshole.
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All those in charge.
Not just the fool that didn’t realise the autopilot was on but whoever was in charge of training.
They don’t have a ship any more so they might be redundant anyway
Between this and the Ferry grounding, our maritime personnel seem to have an issue with Autopilots and how to work them.All those in charge.
Not just the fool that didn’t realise the autopilot was on but whoever was in charge of training.
They don’t have a ship any more so they might be redundant anyway
Woah woah woah, I just asked a question
Meant no malice behind it. Was genuinely curious.
EDIT: Read that wrongly, but realise now you weren't calling me an asshole
Ah well, at least we aren’t a laughing stockWatch: Damning report reveals cause of HMNZS Manawanui's sinking off Samoa
The interim Court of Inquiry’s report blames incident on 'human error'.
They should make Andrew Bayley in charge of Defence. At least he wouldn’t hold back
Woah woah woah, I just asked a question
Meant no malice behind it. Was genuinely curious.
EDIT: Read that wrongly, but realise now you weren't calling me an asshole
No way bro just letting you know my prowess in the Navy game lol.
“Having mistakenly assessed a thruster control failure, standard procedures should have prompted the ship’s crew to check that the ship was under manual control rather than in autopilot. This check did not occur. Remaining in autopilot resulted in the ship maintaining a course toward land, until grounding and eventually stranding.”Watch: Damning report reveals cause of HMNZS Manawanui's sinking off Samoa
The interim Court of Inquiry’s report blames incident on 'human error'.
There you have it...
For those who don't know, this what drills are for. To test and embed SOPs so they are second nature during conflict. IE the drill for weapon stops firing, is a functional weapons test to ID and rectify. Empty magazine, failure to chamber etc. Its gets more involved the larger the platform and the more people. In this case there would be a drill for losing control of the ship, and I bet the first fucking action is check autopilot. This tells me the core officer group is poorly trained and drilled.
Who's responsible for these poor training standards? Looks like the MCC.
"In the New Zealand Navy, the Maritime Component Commander (MCC) is responsible for the training of the Navy's fleet. The MCC is also responsible for the readiness of the fleet, as well as the specialist teams that support the Navy's mission."
Whats worse is they werent even in combat. Zero pressue, it should have been basically just another drill.
Imagine doing a fire alarm drill at a workplace and the big bosses panic and jump out the window...
Imagine doing a fire alarm drill at a workplace and the big bosses panic and jump out the window...
There most definitely is extensive breakdown SOPs and training conducted at least every other day.
Someone just screwed up, plain and simple.
Officer training school, that MCC and especially the captain. "the officer overseeing the ship." as they said
