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Who's responsible for these poor training standards? Looks like the MCC.

"In the New Zealand Navy, the Maritime Component Commander (MCC) is responsible for the training of the Navy's fleet. The MCC is also responsible for the readiness of the fleet, as well as the specialist teams that support the Navy's mission."
Officer training school, that MCC and especially the captain. "the officer overseeing the ship." as they said
 
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There most definitely is extensive breakdown SOPs and training conducted at least every other day.
Someone just screwed up, plain and simple.
at least 3 people screwed up though. Shit the Captain hit a reef before anyone thought to disengage autopilot.

the entire drama should have been;
"sir Ive lost control of the ship"
"is autopilot on?"
 
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The Navigation school specifically, the people who signed that specific Officer of the Watch off, and ultimately the OOW taking those actions.
In reality, the Captain and Navigator of the ship are all going to bear the majority of the blame.
Yeah tbf I am extrapolating Army and wider military experience into Naval matters. I certainly have zero experience operating large naval vessels.
 
Yeah tbf I am extrapolating Army and wider military experience into Naval matters. I certainly have zero experience operating large naval vessels.
I'm not looking for a scapegoat or to point the finger of blame at one person, but if I were it could be this guy. Mind you he'd only been in the job 4 days, the previous guy got out just in time.

 
I'm not looking for a scapegoat or to point the finger of blame at one person, but if I were it could be this guy. Mind you he'd only been in the job 4 days, the previous guy got out just in time.

Actually reading his job nah. He just sets targets for others to deliver and then passes reports up the chain. I doubt hes mandating they pass incompetent officers
 
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“Having mistakenly assessed a thruster control failure, standard procedures should have prompted the ship’s crew to check that the ship was under manual control rather than in autopilot. This check did not occur. Remaining in autopilot resulted in the ship maintaining a course toward land, until grounding and eventually stranding.”

There you have it...
So they were conducting a survey on a reef and autopilot was engaged that would put them on a course straight in to the reef?
 
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yes, they set a course with autopilot which would take them on a course straight in to the reef and then forgot to take autopilot off, tried to reverse thrust but because autopilot was still on all they managed to do was speed up in to the reef?
I assume they had a big patrol box so would have had the autopilot on to maintain the course, went to turn and there we go...
I'm an Engineer not an operator though so not 100% sure 😂
 
What the fuck is going on in the NZ Navy (apart from the obvious)
"Earlier this year, a group of Navy recruits caught sharing “extreme” sexual and violent imagery involving animals and children avoided a court martial because it was considered there was no “public interest” in a prosecution."
What The Wtf GIF by Justin
 
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No reports mate. Ship wouldn't have sailed if they had an operational defect affecting safety
Yes mate I understand that MNZ would have been involved before she could sail but there were reports of problems after she sailed. Maybe they were just wrong.
🤔.
She was previously involved with the Norwegian oil and gas industry so not a purpose built vessel as I understand
 
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