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Man Up.... needs to be retitled "Cough Up" i.e. give 10% to Brian... he needs a new Harley!!!
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Look to the Dutch, Norway and Sweden. Focus is on rehabilitation. They are actually reducing prison capacity or leasing it to other countries! Lol.
They also have massive public sectors and public sector budgets. Which most people on here think is the road to Sodom.
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The commissioners brought in to replace the ECC by a National government surprised me when they included David Caygill.
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I have absolutely no problem with an efficiently run public sector. Our problem is that we swing from pumping it up with huge amounts of money without being accountable to striping it back down with every change of government. Heaven forbid we should not just pump money into the public sector but also ensure the money is then used wisely.... as they also do in those three countries you mentioned. Unfortunately, our major parties want to appeal too much to the voting public (and the whims of the financial backers) than to actually do what's best for the country.
100% Rizzah. And that describes an ideal for me too. Backlash coming shortly - just to bring it on quicker I'll say 6 words - bring in a capital gains tax
Agree, the need for protection for large swathes of our core services and infrastructure from political interference of supply, funding and planning is imperative.
All of that is antithesis to the neoliberal creeps.
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I'm quite surprised that ACT has allowed the government to suggest that there be a consensus on large infrastructure projects between National and Labour. Seems to go against one of their core beliefs... private over public building of assets.
bullets reduce reoffending 100%
That worked back when they had a high trust society and mono-ethnic cultures. All three of those places have massive crime problems.
Gang warfare propels Sweden's homicide rate among Europe's highest
The surge in gang violence in Sweden has led to one of the highest homicide rates in Europe, with official data showing that fatal shootings have more than doubled in a year. #EuropeNews
www.euronews.com
The efficiency argument is a massive beat up IMO. You don't cut funding to find efficiency, that fucks the whole thing up.
Dutch 'Mocro mafia' sets off alarm bells in Germany – DW – 09/25/2024
German police have warned of Dutch organized crime networks moving into Germany after a series of explosions in Cologne.
www.dw.com
Government launches a war on crime - Norway's News in English — www.newsinenglish.no
Norway’s Labour-Center government has launched a war on crime, after what it calls a “brutal” summer marked by stabbings, shootings and gang wars, much of it tied to drugs. Recent arrests of the crown princess’ own son indicates the violence and lack of regard for the law extends far beyond...
www.newsinenglish.no
The principle still applies. A rehab focus is better for everyone.That worked back when they had a high trust society and mono-ethnic cultures. All three of those places have massive crime problems.
Gang warfare propels Sweden's homicide rate among Europe's highest
The surge in gang violence in Sweden has led to one of the highest homicide rates in Europe, with official data showing that fatal shootings have more than doubled in a year. #EuropeNews
Your ideal is Norway? One of the biggest oil producers in the world. And you think it's because of a capital gains tax?
Your mate @wizard of Tauranga said we could be Norway a few pages back - because we were going to magically double GDP in 10 years, Lol!
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Im not talking general crime here. Im talking almost exclusively violent crime. Are there longitudinal studies on the health of societies who rehabilitate violent criminals?
Do those countries rehab their most violent criminals? Always exceptions to the rule and some will require long term incarceration.
Remembering we have one of the highest incarceration rates in the OECD.
I genuinely don't know the data
Neither, most of the articles talk about non-violent offenders. Which make up, certainly in NZ, a huge portion of the prison population.
I just looked up our stats. 42% of our prison pop are on remand awaiting trial or sentencing. Lol.
Sort your shit out NZ judicial system.
Sort your shit out NZ judicial system.
