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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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To clarify my previous posts I am talking about the public sector in general excluding the Frontline staff who for the most part do a very good job.
 
The "no reward" part.
Well, that's based on experience and several close family members who have worked in Ministry positions.

When you have someone who has good work ethic and a desire to make a difference, like my sister for example who worked for the Ministry of Education, that only lasts for so long when you are the minority in that regard. If you are stuck in a pay bracket, no bonuses and aren't getting personal satisfaction or a feeing that your contribution is making a difference then what reward are you getting for your efforts?

Would you stay were you are if you weren't being rewarded for your performance, whether monetary or otherwise?
 
Oh just casually excluding the bulk of the public sector lol.
Yeah perhaps excluding wasn't the right word. Maybe focusing more on the Ministries.

Anyway, the points still stand. I'm all for trimming down the layers and number of back room staff.
 
Well, that's based on experience and several close family members who have worked in Ministry positions.

When you have someone who has good work ethic and a desire to make a difference, like my sister for example who worked for the Ministry of Education, that only lasts for so long when you are the minority in that regard. If you are stuck in a pay bracket, no bonuses and aren't getting personal satisfaction or a feeing that your contribution is making a difference then what reward are you getting for your efforts?

Would you stay were you are if you weren't being rewarded for your performance, whether monetary or otherwise?
I've worked in a few jobs where I had to find another job to get any sort of monetary reward for performance.
Move schools or if in the actual Ministry - move to another sector of the PS. I've heard it's pretty easy to move Ministry to Ministry.
My partner works in a Ministry. She's offered a heap of professional development opportunities and job progression with the Ministry she works at. Could be a case of she's in a team/division that is run by cunts. It happens everywhere.

Do you really think she'd get treated better in the private sector? I've only worked at two companies that actively engaged in proper professional development.
Most of the managers I've worked under were garbage at fostering solid team culture or any sort of feedback or performance metrics. Remuneration is often poor.

I think we have real under investment in upskilling/training and development in NZ as a whole. Management development appears non existent.
I haven't worked in any really big corps though, perhaps they are different.
 
Including your sister?

Thats becomes the issue. We all know greater efficiency is the thing to do from a logical perspective but we all know people personally affected so our heart competes with our head.
She left, they loved her and wanted her to stay but she couldn't stand it. The number of people she worked with that put in less hours and less effort, which affected her role and work as well because she ended up having to wait for them to get their bits completed (and often not to a good standard) before she could finish her stuff. She went back to working in schools currently acting principal at a primary school and loving it - she is setting the expectations and driving them.
 
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Yeah perhaps excluding wasn't the right word. Maybe focusing more on the Ministries.

Anyway, the points still stand. I'm all for trimming down the layers and number of back room staff.
Sure, could always be run more efficiently - but is the most effective way to simply cut funding and start hiring freezes? Better to identify why there are problems/under performance.
When you cut/offer volunteer redundancy company/sector wide, you often lose the good staff first.
 
I've worked in a few jobs where I had to find another job to get any sort of monetary reward for performance.
Move schools or if in the actual Ministry - move to another sector of the PS. I've heard it's pretty easy to move Ministry to Ministry.
My partner works in a Ministry. She's offered a heap of professional development opportunities and job progression with the Ministry she works at. Could be a case of she's in a team/division that is run by cunts. It happens everywhere.

Do you really think she'd get treated better in the private sector? I've only worked at two companies that actively engaged in proper professional development.
Most of the managers I've worked under were garbage at fostering solid team culture or any sort of feedback or performance metrics. Remuneration is often poor.

I think we have real under investment in upskilling/training and development in NZ as a whole. Management development appears non existent.
I haven't worked in any really big corps though, perhaps they are different.
It's not about how she is treated, more the low expectations or performance of others that is accepted there. The private sector isn't perfect either but there is definitely more of a focus on results and with more urgency, certainly from my experience.

Does your wife work in a smaller Ministry? Or one that has a large number of staff?
 
It's not about how she is treated, more the low expectations or performance of others that is accepted there. The private sector isn't perfect either but there is definitely more of a focus on results and with more urgency, certainly from my experience.

Does your wife work in a smaller Ministry? Or one that has a large number of staff?
She works in a big one. Lots of focus on performance.
 
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