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What do you mean by who rather than what?
The ship either lost power or it didn't.
If it lost power it doesn't matter who is at the helm. If that is the case and it is most likely, it is unfortunate that it happened close to the reef before power could be resumed.
That ship would have advanced electronics, I can't believe it is due to human error.
 
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It's been 2 days? What are you expecting them to say without having done an investigation in to it?
It'd be pretty simple to say it was a fault with the ship and not an error by the captain.

That would shut down the articles doing the rounds.
 
It'd be pretty simple to say it was a fault with the ship and not an error by the captain.

That would shut down the articles doing the rounds.
Simple but if they haven't done an investigation in to it then that may not be true. Equally if they say its human error and the captains fault.
 
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Simple but if they haven't done an investigation in to it then that may not be true. Equally if they say its human error and the captains fault.
Both the defence force and the government have PR teams to manage this exact situation?
Saying nothing for days only amplifies the speculation and causes these headlines.
 
Both the defence force and the government have PR teams to manage this exact situation?
Saying nothing for days only amplifies the speculation and causes these headlines.
It hit a reef and sank. That's been well publicised.

Wanting to release a statement on the cause without investigating it is as ignorant as any articles (have any actually been published or is this more around social media comments by idiots?) doing the rounds blaming the Captain because she is a woman.
 
It hit a reef and sank. That's been well publicised.

Wanting to release a statement on the cause without investigating it is as ignorant as any articles (have any actually been published or is this more around social media comments by idiots?) doing the rounds blaming the Captain because she is a woman.
Yes, but people are quite rightly wondering how it's possible for a state of the art ship to hit a reef.
The lack of concise info is fuelling the speculation.

I don't actually care - just interesting how poor the PR has been around it all.

Feel free to untwist your knickers now.
 
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Yes, but people are quite rightly wondering how it's possible for a state of the art ship to hit a reef.
The lack of concise info is fuelling the speculation.

I don't actually care - just interesting how poor the PR has been around it all.

Feel free to untwist your knickers now.
You don't actually care, but still willing to throw barbs out there about it.

The boat sank 2 days ago in Samoa. The crew have been recovering and flown back to NZ.

There hasn't been time to get any sort of decent investigation done yet you are wanting concise info about it.

No knickers twisted, but again, not surprised you would throw something like that in.
 
Miliatry loves standard operating procedures. They will have to check if those were followed. Even if it was teh ship, was maintenance schedules followed? Were watches manned properly? even if its Defence Force HQ fuck ups, if she failed to raise valid concerns, then still at fault.
 
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You don't actually care, but still willing to throw barbs out there about it.

The boat sank 2 days ago in Samoa. The crew have been recovering and flown back to NZ.

There hasn't been time to get any sort of decent investigation done yet you are wanting concise info about it.

No knickers twisted, but again, not surprised you would throw something like that in.
I'm with juju juju on this one. Military losing at psychological operations is not a good look. Control the narrative.
 
I'm with juju juju on this one. Military losing at psychological operations is not a good look. Control the narrative.
And what is the narrative? They have covered what they know.

Releasing a statement to cover the female captain to stop any commentary about her being female causing the wreck is as ignorant as the commentary. Quite ironic really.
 
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