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[MaybeTop8]

What. Is. Your. Point.

This poster rarely has one. Or if they do and they are called on it, they change the subject or flood post

 

[juju]

Plenty of representation in these pages of the said generation

And Marv who is finding it hard to reconcile he once was a party demon but now has the urge to join grey power.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Grievance is demanding the other party to an agreement honour it? No. Grievance is bitching and crying when you're asked to honour an agreement.

Uhm yes in legal terms that's precisely what a grievance is. To someone who seems to be a strident support of the Treaty ideals, I would have thought you would place very careful consideration on the meanings of words.

 

[marv.]

And Marv who is finding it hard to reconcile he once was a party demon but now has the urge to join grey power.

i still party.

 

[Inruin]

This poster rarely has one. Or if they do and they are called on it, they change the subject or flood post

Oh, the irony

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Theres a lot more irrational chat in this very thread with all the commenting while exhibiting a pretty shocking understanding of any detail of the treaty.
For how forthright the views are it's pretty cringe.

Naturally people are not going to trust a government that allow lobby groups to literally write government policy for them

You are aware of what Hobson's Pledge is? and how antagonistic that is to Maoridom?

Just because people dont agree with you doesnt mean they are ignorant of anything. Anyone between 30-50 probably spent 20 years of schooling learning about the Treaty. I know all about the breaches and grievances and who signed what and still hold the view I do.

 

[juju]

Just because people dont agree with you doesnt mean they are ignorant of anything. Anyone between 30-50 probably spent 20 years of schooling learning about the Treaty. I know all about the breaches and grievances and who signed what and still hold the view I do.

What exactly is your view?

 

[Garry Saloon]

This poster rarely has one. Or if they do and they are called on it, they change the subject or flood post

You're literally doing everything you've accused me of with this post.

 

[Inruin]

You're literally doing everything you've accused me of with this post.

I agree, he does. However I don't think he was referring to you. Perhaps a good example in that sometimes you find that what's written and what's meant aren't necessarily the same thing.

Note: I gave you a thumbs up rather than a laugh. Just mixing it up a bit

 

[Garry Saloon]

Uhm yes in legal terms that's precisely what a grievance is. To someone who seems to be a strident support of the Treaty ideals, I would have thought you would place very careful consideration on the meanings of words.

Bullshit. In a legal sense that term is limited to employment relations.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

What exactly is your view?

Any remaining inequality will not be fixed via tribunals and politicians

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Bullshit. In a legal sense that term is limited to employment relations.

What do you sign in the course of become employed? In any case youre wrong.

A grievance is a harm or distress incurred by an individual or employee. In this lesson you will learn the definition of a grievance, what determines legal standing, and policies and procedures for addressing grievances.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/grievance-in-the-law-definition-procedure-policy.html

 

[juju]

Any remaining inequality will not be fixed via tribunals and politicians

You can believe that.

But that doesn't negate what the treaty is and how it was breached.

Or that the treaty partner should be involved in any discussion on the future shape of the treaty.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

You can believe that.

But that doesn't negate what the treaty is and how it was breached.

Or that the treaty partner should be involved in any discussion on the future shape of the treaty.

Depends what your end goal is really doesn't it.

 

[juju]

Depends what your end goal is really doesn't it.

And?

Good for you if you support Seymour's bill but 1. you're absolutely failing to convince me of your argument or 2. failing to convince me you actually know anything about the treaty

 

[MaybeTop8]

You're literally doing everything you've accused me of with this post.

Wizard sorry, not you

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Wizard sorry, not you

No need to apologise mate, I knew you didn’t mean me!

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

What. Is. Your. Point.

As Frank say - Any remaining inequality will not be fixed via tribunals and politicians

 

[MrFrankWhite]

And?

Good for you if you support Seymour's bill but 1. you're absolutely failing to convince me of your argument or 2. failing to convince me you actually know anything about the treaty

Id call Seymour a greasy snake but that would be far too flattering

 

[Garry Saloon]

As Frank say - Any remaining inequality will not be fixed via tribunals and politicians

You're asserting that without evidence or expertise.