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[Tragic]

On the wealth tax. Most countries have capital gains on housing or death taxes. I would think we are one of a very small majority that don't. Given the growing divide between the classes, and the fact that in NZ that means those that have land and those that don't, it seems contrary to common practice.
But in the end if you want to be well off then you need a bunch of poorer people to compare too. That's how the world works.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Cutting admin and backroom jobs already increasing the workloads of frontline health staff, if you believe doctors

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

They're good people to believe

 

[MaybeTop8]

Racist horse shit

agreed

 

[Cces]

most māori on a benefit.

What's your definition of most in terms of a percentage?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

What's your definition of most in terms of a percentage?

Why is it ok people surmise parties policies and form opinions like act - for the rich pricks; greens - bunch of tree huggers but you surmise the policy position of another party and because the party’s based on race, critical views are racist?

I’ve seen plenty of their policies and them standing up for beneficiaries and gangs. I’ve seen no policies about growing the country or creating jobs.

 

[Cces]

Why is it ok people surmise parties policies and form opinions like act - for the rich pricks; greens - bunch of tree huggers but you surmise the policy position of another party and because the party’s based on race, critical views are racist?

I’ve seen plenty of their policies and them standing up for beneficiaries and gangs. I’ve seen no policies about growing the country or creating jobs.

I just asked the guy to clarify what "most" is in terms of a percentage?

I doubt he needs a stranger on the internet to go into bat for him to answer this simple question

 

[dean]

What's your definition of most in terms of a percentage?

Anymore than now.

 

[Cces]

Anymore than now.

That seems a bit avoidant.
So TMP's policy would see "most", or an increase, of all New Zealander's on a benefit? Or just an increase in Māori on the benefit?
Help me understand

 

[juju]

Ultimately TMP would find most māori on a benefit. That is what they want and need for their political relevance.

I think some posters in this thread need to reflect on the issue of racism in the country & think about how they post.

rather than crying about being victimised by "tall poppy syndrome"

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

TPM are no different to any other party really - they pander to their potential voter pool. We all know where they sit on the political spectrum and they are unapologetic about it. They’re a minority party, so by definition most of us will disagree with a lot or in some cases nearly all of their policies.

 

[juju]

TPM are no different to any other party really - they pander to their potential voter pool. We all know where they sit on the political spectrum and they are unapologetic about it. They’re a minority party, so by definition most of us will disagree with a lot or in some cases nearly all of their policies.

The Tax Policy of TPM upsets people more than the parties influenced / infiltrated by the NRA and the Tobacco industry.
Go figure

 

[defensivebomb]

I think some posters in this thread need to reflect on the issue of racism in the country & think about how they post.

rather than crying about being victimised by "tall poppy syndrome"

I take it that you are here referring to me?

The “tall poppy syndrome” that was mentioned by me the other day was referring to how you constantly mention my private schooling, as if you have a some sort of chip on your shoulder

Don’t try to conflate today’s discussion with that tete a tete from a few days ago

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I think some posters in this thread need to reflect on the issue of racism in the country & think about how they post.

rather than crying about being victimised by "tall poppy syndrome"

Why? Because some take offence to it and try and frame it as they see fit?

 

[juju]

I take it that you are here referring to me?

The “tall poppy syndrome” that was mentioned by me the other day was referring to how you constantly mention my private schooling, as if you have a some sort of chip on your shoulder

Don’t try to conflate today’s discussion with that tete a tete from a few days ago

It's just a point that private school boys are indoctrinated to a world view,
And seem to have an inability to understand the concept of a treaty PARTNERSHIP
and/or are unwilling to understand how they could possibly be wrong.

You should have a good think about the topic.

 

[defensivebomb]

It's just a point that private school boys are indoctrinated to a world view,
And seem to have an inability to understand the concept of a treaty PARTNERSHIP
and/or are unwilling to understand how they could possibly be wrong.

You should have a good think about the topic.

Thanks for the lecture. I’ll use your generalisation of school kids to spend my weekend reflecting on your opinion.

So are you picking up the conversation from a few days ago that I said I couldn’t be bothered having with you?

Very odd man. Relax. Get on with your weekend instead of dredging up some interaction you had on the internet a few days ago

 

[juju]

View: https://x.com/tmurphyNZ/status/1836546397178597597?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Meanwhile...

 

[defensivebomb]

View: https://x.com/tmurphyNZ/status/1836546397178597597?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Meanwhile...

Yeah that’s no good

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

The Tax Policy of TPM upsets people more than the parties influenced / infiltrated by the NRA and the Tobacco industry.
Go figure

Their tax policy will upset most people that have a growth mindset.

 

[juju]

Their tax policy will upset most people that have a growth mindset.

I get that

But it's hypocritical what we allow ourselves to get upset about or choose to ignore - both sides of the political spectrum.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I get that

But it's hypocritical what we allow ourselves to get upset about or choose to ignore - both sides of the political spectrum.

Yeah & I have no problem with where they position themselves on the spectrum. However at the same time it’s very difficult not to be triggered by their approach at times. In my view they overstep in their delivery, intentionally antagonistic and divisive.