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[wizard of Tauranga]

This Soverign Citizen cult is becoming a dangerous menace

Former mayor confronts intruder, who had a nail gun, trying to 'claim' her house

'He was screaming and ranting at me, and I just thought, ‘I have to protect myself''.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Sounds like he’s just got a few screws loose!

But the sovereign movement tends to attract those types…

 

[Worried2Death]

Sounds like he’s just got a few screws loose!

But the sovereign movement tends to attract those types…

That's the problem, they're radicalising unstable people and filling their heads with conspiracy shit.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

That's the problem, they're radicalising unstable people and filling their heads with conspiracy shit.

Isn’t it unstable people radicalising more unstable people though.

All conspiracying together?

Every time I have to pay the dog registration I think about making my dog a sovereign citizen!

 

[MaybeTop8]

Turns out National are all smoke and mirrors, lies. Again. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/polic...-boot-camp-course/6BMOL2OJ2NBSVAZB6N6KYTQXFE/

 

[MaybeTop8]

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

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Facts please (instead of fairy dust economics):

How many accidents and deaths has it reduced since the tax came in?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Facts please (instead of fairy dust economics):

How many accidents and deaths has it been reduced since the tax came in?

I don't know, how much of it was actually spent on road improvements? How many deaths in the areas where, if any of those improvements were made, before and after?

How are they measuring things?

Really not like you to seek out facts Whiz. You should try and find out.

More importantly, there was a section of that tax set aside for road safety improvement and lower the road toll. That's now gone.

While that may boost your own culture war Whiz, it's not a good thing at all. In fact it's regressive.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I don't know, how much of it was actually spent on road improvements? How many deaths in the areas where, if any of those improvements were made, before and after?

How are they measuring things?

Really not like you to seek out facts Whiz. You should try and find out.

More importantly, there was a section of that tax set aside for road safety improvement and lower the road toll. That's now gone.

While that may boost your own culture war Whiz, it's not a good thing at all. In fact it's regressive.

Like all long term trend data, governments are burying it. But I found this. Looks like that 11c was doing fuck all

 

[MaybeTop8]

So it's the Auckland fuel tax. I don't reckon anyone can come to any conclusions based on that graph

 

[MrFrankWhite]

So it's the Auckland fuel tax. I don't reckon anyone can come to any conclusions based on that graph

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[wizard of Tauranga]

This from Labour before the $1.47b final cost over run:

‘Robertson wanted more information from KiwiRail on the cost and risk of alternative options.

He specifically wanted to know: “The extent to which seeking to renegotiate the shipbuilding contract to procure ferries that are more like-for-like with respect to the current fleet and/or are not rail-enabled would allow for landside infrastructure costs to be reduced and forecast with greater certainty”.

Its black and white now that Labour would have also cancelled Kiwirails mega ferries as well. Case close for the lefties on here whinging over doing the responsible thing

Mega ferry mess: What other ships did KiwiRail consider?

KiwiRail considered eight options to keep its ageing Interislander fleet afloat.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

This from Labour before the $1.47b final cost over run:

‘Robertson wanted more information from KiwiRail on the cost and risk of alternative options.

He specifically wanted to know: “The extent to which seeking to renegotiate the shipbuilding contract to procure ferries that are more like-for-like with respect to the current fleet and/or are not rail-enabled would allow for landside infrastructure costs to be reduced and forecast with greater certainty”.

Its black and white now that Labour would have also cancelled Kiwirails mega ferries as well. Case close for the lefties on here whinging over doing the responsible thing

Mega ferry mess: What other ships did KiwiRail consider?

KiwiRail considered eight options to keep its ageing Interislander fleet afloat.

www.nzherald.co.nz

And there will be an alternative solution to the problem that will generate a far superior return on capital invested and meet the needs of the major stakeholders.

 

[miket12]

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And this is why stats without a time period can be next to useless..... in the five years before the ARFT was introduced, an average of 50 people either died or severed serious injury on roads.... since it was introduced, including the COVID lockdowns, an average of 47 people died on Auckland roads each year. The reduction in serious injury caused by motor accidents when the two periods are taken into account has been less than an average of 25 per year.

To achieve a reduction of 488 deaths and serious injuries would take over 17 years IF the present rates were maintained.

It's the same as the stat for $3 billion tax cuts for landlords.... last year (when the deduction rate was 50%), landlords with mortgages missed out on $360 million in mortgage deductions of their tax. Extend that out to 100% and that's a saving to the government of $720 million.... that means it would take over four years for that $3 billion dollar "tax cut" for landlords to occur. Why not say it's $7 billion "tax cuts" (over 10 years) or $14 billion "tax cuts" (over 20 years)? Oh, and that's not even taking into account the reductions in mortgage rates would decrease the tax take anyway.... a two percent drop in interest rates pushes that four year period out to six years before the landlords receive their total of $3 billion worth of tax cuts while a three percent drop pushes it out to 7 1/2 years.

The same for the figure of mega landlords with over 200 houses didn't take into account that over 90% of the houses registered with the Tenancy Tribunal for so called "mega landlords" were with property managers who manage over 200 houses on behalf of mum and dad investors who have one or two properties. Then, the majority of the others supposedly "mega landlords" were charities who don't pay tax so weren't affected by the "tax cuts". Of the few private "mega landlords" left, there is no data available as to how many of them have mortgages over their properties or the values of their mortgages. It's based on figures pulled out of space designed to sway the public and not based on the real world... and people are gullible enough to accept these figures without thinking about them.

I don't like a lot of what this new government is doing but it would be nice to actually have some honesty in the debates... or maybe we should just accept that these people are always correct like Hipkins the other week talking about individual supermarkets making an "excessive" $1 million per week profit when it was in fact the companies.

 

[MaybeTop8]

This from Labour before the $1.47b final cost over run:

‘Robertson wanted more information from KiwiRail on the cost and risk of alternative options.

He specifically wanted to know: “The extent to which seeking to renegotiate the shipbuilding contract to procure ferries that are more like-for-like with respect to the current fleet and/or are not rail-enabled would allow for landside infrastructure costs to be reduced and forecast with greater certainty”.

Its black and white now that Labour would have also cancelled Kiwirails mega ferries as well. Case close for the lefties on here whinging over doing the responsible thing

Mega ferry mess: What other ships did KiwiRail consider?

KiwiRail considered eight options to keep its ageing Interislander fleet afloat.

www.nzherald.co.nz

The only thing black and white in this comment is the black text and the white background

 

[MaybeTop8]

And there will be an alternative solution to the problem that will generate a far superior return on capital invested and meet the needs of the major stakeholders.

You mean there wasn't and there isn't now.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Police Minister Mark Mitchell defends under-fire proto boot camp course

Documents show staff running the course suffered severe distress and physical assaults, and Labour says the money could be better spent elsewhere.

www.rnz.co.nz

And this is why stats without a time period can be next to useless..... in the five years before the ARFT was introduced, an average of 50 people either died or severed serious injury on roads.... since it was introduced, including the COVID lockdowns, an average of 47 people died on Auckland roads each year. The reduction in serious injury caused by motor accidents when the two periods are taken into account has been less than an average of 25 per year.

To achieve a reduction of 488 deaths and serious injuries would take over 17 years IF the present rates were maintained.

It's the same as the stat for $3 billion tax cuts for landlords.... last year (when the deduction rate was 50%), landlords with mortgages missed out on $360 million in mortgage deductions of their tax. Extend that out to 100% and that's a saving to the government of $720 million.... that means it would take over four years for that $3 billion dollar "tax cut" for landlords to occur. Why not say it's $7 billion "tax cuts" (over 10 years) or $14 billion "tax cuts" (over 20 years)? Oh, and that's not even taking into account the reductions in mortgage rates would decrease the tax take anyway.... a two percent drop in interest rates pushes that four year period out to six years before the landlords receive their total of $3 billion worth of tax cuts while a three percent drop pushes it out to 7 1/2 years.

The same for the figure of mega landlords with over 200 houses didn't take into account that over 90% of the houses registered with the Tenancy Tribunal for so called "mega landlords" were with property managers who manage over 200 houses on behalf of mum and dad investors who have one or two properties. Then, the majority of the others supposedly "mega landlords" were charities who don't pay tax so weren't affected by the "tax cuts". Of the few private "mega landlords" left, there is no data available as to how many of them have mortgages over their properties or the values of their mortgages. It's based on figures pulled out of space designed to sway the public and not based on the real world... and people are gullible enough to accept these figures without thinking about them.

I don't like a lot of what this new government is doing but it would be nice to actually have some honesty in the debates... or maybe we should just accept that these people are always correct like Hipkins the other week talking about individual supermarkets making an "excessive" $1 million per week profit when it was in fact the companies.

Here you go Mike

Prescription fees return: 'We're going to see higher rates of hospital admissions'

"If we are letting down the people who are most vulnerable, who can't afford a $5 prescription charge, then we are failing miserably," a researcher says.

www.rnz.co.nz

 

[miket12]

Police Minister Mark Mitchell defends under-fire proto boot camp course

Documents show staff running the course suffered severe distress and physical assaults, and Labour says the money could be better spent elsewhere.

www.rnz.co.nz

Here you go Mike
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Prescription fees return: 'We're going to see higher rates of hospital admissions'

"If we are letting down the people who are most vulnerable, who can't afford a $5 prescription charge, then we are failing miserably," a researcher says.

www.rnz.co.nz

Within 4 minutes drive from the Pakuranga Unichem Pharmacy mentioned within that article is both a Chemist Warehouse and Bargain Chemist…. both of whom never charged the $5 prescription fee. IMO, this is more about pharmacists ripping people of charging a fee other chemists can absorb.

Our local Unichem Pharmacy never charged the fee so others can do it. I was in there getting a repeat prescription and he said he wasn’t going to introduce it again.

 

[Bay39er]

Within 4 minutes drive from the Pakuranga Unichem Pharmacy mentioned within that article is both a Chemist Warehouse and Bargain Chemist…. both of whom never charged the $5 prescription fee. IMO, this is more about pharmacists ripping people of charging a fee other chemists can absorb.

Our local Unichem Pharmacy never charged the fee so others can do it.

The greater issue that I see is the folding of the community pharmacy with the advent of the big box pharmacy who have the size to undercut whatever the community pharmacy can charge.

With the folding we also loose the advice the pharmacy would give to customers and so mitigate against increased health issues

 

[miket12]

The greater issue that I see is the folding of the community pharmacy with the advent of the big box pharmacy who have the size to undercut whatever the community pharmacy can charge.

With the folding we also loose the advice the pharmacy would give to customers and so mitigate against increased health issues

Unfortunately, smaller pharmacies are dealing with that other independent small retailers like small hardware stores, butchers, bakers, bookstores etc have been dealing with for years when bigger companies move in.

Governments don’t provide subsidies to them…. why should they to pharmacists?

 

[MaybeTop8]