Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[Juno]

There’s a reactor in a Sydney suburb. Canadian residents rate them highly.

What’s your experience or source of data?

Yeah but not for power. A reactor nonetheless...what could possibly go wrong?
No data source specifically but a lifetime of news and documentaries freely available to everyone on the 'accidents' that have happened along the way (when news was news). Not quite old enough to see the results of Hiroshima personally but its well- documented, as is the radiation poisoning of workers when human error causes 'mishaps'.
From Muriroa, Chenobyl, USA, STH America, Asia, Japan & so on where nuclear power stations or reactors still do damage.
Insiduous thing radiation exposure, once you start showing symptoms you're f***ed.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Pity you don't understand the ways of Maoridom!!

They are showing at the moments it’s ‘Once we’re warriors’ and solving things with violence

Waitangi is a chance for the leadership to show you can are better than that. Instead it’s hate, dildos and protest every single year. All 40+ of my years, Waitangi has been about negativity.

Matariki is a much better māori celebration in NZ that brings everyone together.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Climate vandalism, corporate greed wins out again over the concerns of all new zealanders - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business...el-vehicles-surge/QLKTML3R35HZXGXW2CJIZVLMB4/

The coalition of regression

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Climate vandalism, corporate greed wins out again over the concerns of all new zealanders - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business...el-vehicles-surge/QLKTML3R35HZXGXW2CJIZVLMB4/

You suggesting that EV’s shouldn’t pay user charges for the roads they drive on?

 

[MaybeTop8]

You suggesting that EV’s shouldn’t pay user charges for the roads they drive on?

I'm against utterly regressive policies that fly in the face of such urgent action needed to combat climate change.

All for what? Some mythical regressive time when men were men and everyone else was fcked, including the planet? No thanks.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Yeah but not for power. A reactor nonetheless...what could possibly go wrong?
No data source specifically but a lifetime of news and documentaries freely available to everyone on the 'accidents' that have happened along the way (when news was news). Not quite old enough to see the results of Hiroshima personally but its well- documented, as is the radiation poisoning of workers when human error causes 'mishaps'.
From Muriroa, Chenobyl, USA, STH America, Asia, Japan & so on where nuclear power stations or reactors still do damage.
Insiduous thing radiation exposure, once you start showing symptoms you're f***ed.

Yeah NZs anti nuclearism is always based on vibes. So you’re happy to live right next door to a functional nuclear reactor *as long as* it’s not being used to generate power? Ludicrous logic.

Ask for the real world…

Public support for nuclear energy is highest among plant neighbors

www.ans.org

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I'm against utterly regressive policies that fly in the face of such urgent action needed to combat climate change.

All for what? Some mythical regressive time when men were men and everyone else was fcked, including the planet? No thanks.

So who is paying for roads in this utopia?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I'm against utterly regressive policies that fly in the face of such urgent action needed to combat climate change.

All for what? Some mythical regressive time when men were men and everyone else was fcked, including the planet? No thanks.

You’re also against commercial reality.

 

[Juno]

They are showing at the moments it’s ‘Once we’re warriors’ and solving things with violence

Waitangi is a chance for the leadership to show you can are better than that. Instead it’s hate, dildos and protest every single year. All 40+ of my years, Waitangi has been about negativity.

Matariki is a much better māori celebration in NZ that brings everyone together.

Yeah NZs anti nuclearism is always based on vibes. So you’re happy to live right next door to a functional nuclear reactor *as long as* it’s not being used to generate power? Ludicrous logic.

Ask for the real world…

Public support for nuclear energy is highest among plant neighbors

www.ans.org

Think you might have misread my reactor comment re "what could go wrong?" Should've used a sarcasm emoji.
Yeah, might be a bit of a hippie from way back but like to think I'm a well-read, well-travelled and well-educated one. The vibe of anything is not really my thing....except Mabo
View: https://youtu.be/nMuh33BMZYY?si=TUG2T9iT1_EksmPB

 

[Worried2Death]

Where do you want it/ them to go. In your neck of the woods? Nah, didn't think so.
We're an earthquake prone country with risk for a few tsunami - from the Hikurangi trench if it decides the time is right for a tectonic plate shift - remember Kaikoura coastline lifting 1metre after CHCH? That's nothing? Think Japan then. Or Chenobyl.
For the safety experts out there ready with the improved safety etc, that shite stays around for generations if it happens.
Put it in the southern alps where noone lives? Active faultline.
And while it might not go like Chernobyl, waste has to be gotten rid of, any leaks and your land & waterways are ****ed. (Farmers would love that wouldn't they?)And then there's the distribution costs
We're one small country that would very quickly be exponentially damaged if an 'accident' were to occur. For generations of people, let alone unusable 'wasteland'.
Not fearmongering, just being practical. With advances possible in other areas of energy production we don't need nuclear. Invest in those areas.
Anyway, back to the question, in your neighbourhood?

Bloody 'ell, I thought the latest models were 100% safe. How about putting them between the coast and the alps, on giant bouncy castles to absorb the quakes?
I'm going off this idea now.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

@Rick O’Shay would be immortal if he is living that close to a nuclear reactor. His skin would be glowing

Think Homer

 

[Rick O’Shay]

And not your problem once you're gone right?

You are correct in that nothing will be my problem when I'm gone, much the same for you I guess.

However, my descendants who will likely still be here will be thankful for the cheap power.

Any decent risk analysis would provide an answer either way, unfortunately the hysteria precludes even having a rational discussion about the issue.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

And any future offspring in the family line would have one eye, 6-digit hands and be infertile, but hey, at least they won't want for power!

Fixed that for you and so, you have relatives in South Taranaki?

 

[mrblonde]

Not sure Wiz knows what a metaphor is but he can google it.

I've never met a phor I didn't like.

Us intelligent folk know what Seymour and Henare really mean. The problem is the angry idiots out there.

 

[MaybeTop8]

You’re also against commercial reality.

Well, commercial reality is up against climate change reality

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Well, commercial reality is up against climate change reality

Sure and there is huge investment going into reducing carbon emissions. That transition can’t happen without everyone, corporates, consumers & government stumping up a lot of coin to fund it. To suggest EV drivers shouldn’t be paying RUC - for vehicles that are significantly heavier & therefore do more damage to our roads - is insane.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Sure and there is huge investment going into reducing carbon emissions. That transition can’t happen without everyone, corporates, consumers & government stumping up a lot of coin to fund it. To suggest EV drivers shouldn’t be paying RUC - for vehicles that are significantly heavier & therefore do more damage to our roads - is insane.

Sigh. I've never suggested electric vehicles shouldn't pay road user charges. There's that pattern again of attributing comments and words that I haven't said.

It's common and frequent from certain commenters in this forum.

If there's such huge investment what's disappointing is this governement's desire to turn people away from evs and lift fees on polluting vehicles. That's insanity.

Regressive and damaging.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

If there's such huge investment what's disappointing is this governement's desire to turn people away from evs and lift fees on polluting vehicles. That's insanity.

And you don't think that EV's are polluters?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Sigh. I've never suggested electric vehicles shouldn't pay road user charges. There's that pattern again of attributing comments and words that I haven't said.

It's common and frequent from certain commenters in this forum.

If there's such huge investment what's disappointing is this governement's desire to turn people away from evs and lift fees on polluting vehicles. That's insanity.

Regressive and damaging.

We respond to what you post, whether that’s what you’ve written or provided a link to.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Sigh. I've never suggested electric vehicles shouldn't pay road user charges. There's that pattern again of attributing comments and words that I haven't said.

It's common and frequent from certain commenters in this forum.

If there's such huge investment what's disappointing is this governement's desire to turn people away from evs and lift fees on polluting vehicles. That's insanity.

Regressive and damaging.

Isn’t it regressive that the poor people in old combustion engines pay most of the road tax and the rich people who can afford to buy EVs get subsidised?