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[run_it_str8_again]

Life is hard. Sugar is hideous and nice. Alcohol is nice as well as hideous. A key issue for my health has been using cold turkey when necessary and finding healthy balance with foods and drinks that are best in moderation.

Inruin. I've started taking some glucosamine and chondroitin which has cow gelatin stuff as well as borax (I know, borax. The ant killing, household cleaning borax?). Weird but its helping.

Savage September was good. Quiet October is still good. Getting to your 95kg goal is possible but you have to figure out the best way to get there and how to stay there. One suggestion I'd make is to research some high intensity interval training stuff. I do a 2 min moderate then 20 second high intensity. Then continually do that three times. It only adds up to one minute of high intensity but for the life of me it ignited a zillion good things in my health. It could be done on a bike, or stationary bike, boxing bag, jog then sprint. See if it has any merit for you.

 

[Inruin]

Life is hard. Sugar is hideous and nice. Alcohol is nice as well as hideous. A key issue for my health has been using cold turkey when necessary and finding healthy balance with foods and drinks that are best in moderation.

Inruin. I've started taking some glucosamine and chondroitin which has cow gelatin stuff as well as borax (I know, borax. The ant killing, household cleaning borax?). Weird but its helping.

Savage September was good. Quiet October is still good. Getting to your 95kg goal is possible but you have to figure out the best way to get there and how to stay there. One suggestion I'd make is to research some high intensity interval training stuff. I do a 2 min moderate then 20 second high intensity. Then continually do that three times. It only adds up to one minute of high intensity but for the life of me it ignited a zillion good things in my health. It could be done on a bike, or stationary bike, boxing bag, jog then sprint. See if it has any merit for you.

Yeah I'm going to give the 95kg goal a good crack. I might try your suggestion around high intensity. Running at this stage isn't an option. I was thinking about doing some swimming at the local pool.

 

[snake77]

Thought I'd update my progress. Sitting at 98.5kg today. Really struggling to lose any weight now. I have come down from 105kg just prior to Christmas and had targeted 95kg as my goal for Dec 24th. I am undecided as to whether I try and go hard to make this or focus more on stretching and strengthening - The savage September thread has been great for this. Never too old to try some new things. Never thought I'd be doing Pilates! Thanks @MrFrankWhite and run_it_str8_again in particular.

@Wrighty how are you going with your goals?

Also, are there any nutritionists or similar on here? I have a very sweet tooth so cutting out the biscuits, lollies, chocolate and soft drinks was hard for me. I switched to Coke Zero as a 'better' alternative. I just read somewhere that this is almost as bad because the artificial sweeteners cause your body to react the same way it does to sugar and can cause weight gain. FFS!

Oh well, onwards! I think I'm going to change my goal for the next 10 weeks to getting to 96kg-97kg and improving my strength and flexibility. Unless someone is going to talk me in to sticking to 95kg AND doing the strength and flexibility piece.

Good work on your weight loss. It is natural to hit a plateau. When you start the changes you make like eating cleaner or more exercise is typically enough. When you get down you then may need to focus on things a bit more.

For the coke zero. I wouldn't worry about it too much. A YouTube channel I watch that debunks a lot of nutrition advice while citing studies often debunks things on diet coke etc.

I've added some soft drinks back into my diet. More to give me some variety from just having water, or water mixed with protein powder.

I only have the new smaller cans. The old school ones or the larger ones really throw me off. The reason for the smaller ones is for portion control.

I stick to the zero sugar drinks. Coke I have even moved to zero sugar and zero caffeine. My main go to is Kombucha. The only reason I went back to coke is the Kombucha coke I was getting wasn't in stock anymore and I needed more variety than passionfruit.

This stuff. I love. Small can and it seem quite light so I never feel bloated.

Mango Passion Kombucha | All Natural | Remedy Kombucha

Remedy Kombucha Mango Passion is Australian summer captured in a bottle. REAL, authentic kombucha brewed the old-school way using all natural ingredients.

www.remedydrinks.com

 

[snake77]

Yeah I'm going to give the 95kg goal a good crack. I might try your suggestion around high intensity. Running at this stage isn't an option. I was thinking about doing some swimming at the local pool.

Swimming is great.

Depending on the depth of the pool even some walking/running. I used to do that as a warm up as the back of my knee use to get a bit sore. The walking used to help get me loosened up.

When I was at a similar weight (92-96kg) I'd try and run.

I used to run too quick. I went for a run with one of my mates I'd exercise with when I was young. I remember asking him "Do you always run this slow?". I did find slowing down helped a lot. Like a boxer or I think to myself slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

Slowing down also meant less leg pain. As I was at times stopping due to sore legs instead of being tired.

 

[Inruin]

Swimming is great.

Depending on the depth of the pool even some walking/running. I used to do that as a warm up as the back of my knee use to get a bit sore. The walking used to help get me loosened up.

When I was at a similar weight (92-96kg) I'd try and run.

I used to run too quick. I went for a run with one of my mates I'd exercise with when I was young. I remember asking him "Do you always run this slow?". I did find slowing down helped a lot. Like a boxer or I think to myself slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

Slowing down also meant less leg pain. As I was at times stopping due to sore legs instead of being tired.

One aspect is my knees/shins hurting. The other is I find running incredibly boring and lacking for me. If it's as part of a sport like touch or tennis or something I don't mind it but still leads to sore knees/shins

 

[run_it_str8_again]

One aspect is my knees/shins hurting. The other is I find running incredibly boring and lacking for me. If it's as part of a sport like touch or tennis or something I don't mind it but still leads to sore knees/shins

You can actually do focused exercises to strengthen the shins and knees. I remember talking with a doctor about my shin pain years ago and she asked how I got it. When I said "brisk walking" she said the solution step is more brisk walking

 

[Evil_Mush]

Yeah I very rarely drink these days, the pain of the hangover (and the not so fun feeling of things like bloatedness/hiccups /acid reflux) has long outweighed the pleasure of the drinking for quite some time now for me

I'll have a few quiet drinks at a gig (my own or a show I'm going to) or if with mates or family for some sort of get-together, but never in great quantity or at super speed ha.

Same with soft drinks, was never a massive fan of them anyway in adulthood, might indulge in a frozen coke at Maccas or a movie, but never buy for myself otherwise.


As for health updates in general, I'm now floating around the 100kg mark again - checked back at the start of this thread it was about a year ago I was floating around the 90k mark - so some improvement to be had. Those damn choccy bars and choccy milks (the 'protein' branded ones which I know are still basically liquid sugar) have their firm grasp on me!

Oops forgot when I typed this up I was meeting my band mate after work tonight for drinks and Ash live (Irish band that does the Jackie Chan song in the Rumble in the Bronx outtakes credits) - 5 beers and 2 whiskeys later

Was a fun gig so I'm OK with my unhealthy choices this time

 

[snake77]

One aspect is my knees/shins hurting. The other is I find running incredibly boring and lacking for me. If it's as part of a sport like touch or tennis or something I don't mind it but still leads to sore knees/shins

I'm similar. The main reason I cycle over running is I find it more interesting. Especially living in a city.

I didn't mind running when I was younger living in a small town located with lots of scenery.

 

[kos]

Life is hard. Sugar is hideous and nice. Alcohol is nice as well as hideous. A key issue for my health has been using cold turkey when necessary and finding healthy balance with foods and drinks that are best in moderation.

Inruin. I've started taking some glucosamine and chondroitin which has cow gelatin stuff as well as borax (I know, borax. The ant killing, household cleaning borax?). Weird but its helping.

Savage September was good. Quiet October is still good. Getting to your 95kg goal is possible but you have to figure out the best way to get there and how to stay there. One suggestion I'd make is to research some high intensity interval training stuff. I do a 2 min moderate then 20 second high intensity. Then continually do that three times. It only adds up to one minute of high intensity but for the life of me it ignited a zillion good things in my health. It could be done on a bike, or stationary bike, boxing bag, jog then sprint. See if it has any merit for you.

Just on that chrondoitin and glucosamine..it can interact with medications for blood pressure and cholesterol so if you do take medicines for those conditions check with your doctor.

 

[Inruin]

Just on that chrondoitin and glucosamine..it can interact with medications for blood pressure and cholesterol so if you do take medicines for those conditions check with your doctor.

Good tip

 

[Worried2Death]

I've started taking some glucosamine and chondroitin which has cow gelatin stuff as well as borax (I know, borax. The ant killing, household cleaning borax?). Weird but its helping.

Borax... isn't that toxic? Watch out for any of these symptoms

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Just on that chrondoitin and glucosamine..it can interact with medications for blood pressure and cholesterol so if you do take medicines for those conditions check with your doctor.

Thanks for that. I was prescribed meds a while ago but looked for alternatives that involved less meds. .

 

[Noitall]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Sounds like those who attended the Goggins event left disappointed. Sounds more like a cryptocurrency event

 

[tyrael]

Self Help Gurus are only there to help themselves.

 

[Noitall]

Self Help Gurus are only there to help themselves.

Sounds like an absolute grift. Pay $1000 for a ticket and he has a spiel right at the end. Seems like all these gurus like him prey on males not comfortable in their own skin

 

[Evil_Mush]

Yeah the wife of one of my mates went to that being an entrepreneur type herself (she is also related to the Mowbrays who notably criticized the event), and apparently found it pretty meh. Not sure if she paid $1k or not, but sounds like my worst nightmare going to a sales/marketing type event

I remember being invited by someone a few years back while I was between jobs to an event that ended up being a massive sales pitch to get involved with selling Isagenix (the food replacement company whatever it was).
I didn't have to pay to attend, but it felt super culty and having still been burnt out by early years in retail, had no desire to try selling something to people I didn't necessarily believe in. Just the idea of doing it feels dirty and cringey to me

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

I got diagnosed with fatty liver a couple of years back. Basically in the name, fat cells accumulate around your liver (Hint: they aren't supposed to). It can lead to to liver cancer/failure.

Really an interesting exercise in analysing your dietary intake.

Kicked it in 6 months, but fuck me it took a massive lifestyle change and overreaction on my behalf.

Basically, it was the result of a decade of low income and poor mental health. Really highlighted just how bad poverty (low income) is and how difficult it can be to break out of - especially when it just stacks up constantly.

My situation was the tip of the iceberg. There are people out there who won't be able to break the cycle and I fully understand why.

 

[Inruin]

I got diagnosed with fatty liver a couple of years back. Basically in the name, fat cells accumulate around your liver (Hint: they aren't supposed to). It can lead to to liver cancer/failure.

Really an interesting exercise in analysing your dietary intake.

Kicked it in 6 months, but fuck me it took a massive lifestyle change and overreaction on my behalf.

Basically, it was the result of a decade of low income and poor mental health. Really highlighted just how bad poverty (low income) is and how difficult it can be to break out of - especially when it just stacks up constantly.

My situation was the tip of the iceberg. There are people out there who won't be able to break the cycle and I fully understand why.

What was your lifestyle changes you made?

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

What was your lifestyle changes you made?

Dietary - Removed all takeaways, cheese/hyper fatty add-ons, alcohol, massive reduction in carb intake

Exercise - Massive increase in daily exercise. Bought a dog that requires massive amounts of walking, went to the gym three times a week.

Others: stopped vaping.

It's all the usual stuff, really. Just a massive restructure of what goes into my stomach. I'm able to have some of what I mentioned now, it was case of get rid of it all and slowly bring less of it back.

Edit: I should add, water over fizzy drinks. I can't have that sugary stuff anymore. Fucking makes me feel ill.

 

[Evil_Mush]

Nice one, well done on sorting yourself out


Speaking of lifestyle changes (and my earlier point about not wanting to "sell" cringey health stuff), I'm seriously looking at doing a personal trainer course through City Fitness, with a view to potentially getting into actually training at least part time from earlyish next year.
The not-so-subliminal advertising on the walls for their "Team360" course (linked to NASM) each time I go to the gym has finally got its claws into my brain, finally dipped the toe in last week registering interest on the website, and spoke with one of their trainers as well.

I don't look the part yet (aka gotta get myself in a better routine!), but ever since discovering the health/wellness/fitness podcast sphere a couple of years prior to Covid, the idea of helping other people change their lives for the better by getting into some sort of health & fitness routine has been a constant thought in my head, all the while being sick to death of working in mindless gear-in-the-corporate-machine roles and trying to figure out how to get out of that into a more fulfilling/purposeful career.

I'm fairly introverted so not the typical 'personality' I'd associate with a trainer, but at the same time could be an opportunity to overcome certain fears (never been a sell myself / put myself out there type). And worst case I'll just learn a bunch of health related stuff and get another qualification to pretty up the CV, if actually being a trainer doesn't pan out!