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There is one thing never mentioned anywhere... USA and anyone else that matters especially the muslim dominated UN is .....

Why haven't they demanded Hamas to surrender? It's a simple solution that stops the war .... no more carnage that people get upset about.....

Hamas let's face it are terrorists they've just dragged the Palestinian people back to the dark ages... without them Gaza could of been a Singapore or Dubai by now..
 

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Rizzah said:
So how do you justify the IOF killing of civilians in Gaza over this period? Is this not in breach of the ceasefire?
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There is no justification for killing civilians, in Gaza or Israel. If you‘re open to reading about the 2021 ceasefires and confrontations since, can I suggest you read this. You may notice that since the 2021 ceasefire agreed to between Hamas and Israel, there was only one incident involving Hamas until October 7.

The reason air strikes by the IDF on Gaza between the 2021 ceasefire and October 7 was because the air strikes weren’t targeting Hamas but PIJ who weren’t signatories of the ceasefire.

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Timeline: How the Israeli-Palestinian Peace Process Fell Apart in the Three Decades After the 1993 Oslo Accord | FRONTLINE

This timeline chronicles some of the major events that shaped Israeli-Palestinian relations within the past three decades — from the 1993 Oslo peace agreement to the Hamas terror attack on Israel on Oct 7, 2023, and Israel’s war in Gaza.
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View: https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1735729780668960808?t=gMxIjsNYYZgRXPBSbzPBWw&s=19

Fucking morons. They kill indiscriminately and can't even identify non threatening Israeli hostages, what chance have they got off identifying HAMAS from civilians. Footage would have existed of this else they would never have owned up.
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This shows Israels purity and honesty.
Israel is now using white phosphorus bombs in Lebanon, and threatens to hunt
Hamas anywhere in the world.
Turkey has told Israel not in our backyard so that’s a guarantee it will happen.
Hamas in Doha.
Boom.
They want Iran to come out and play.
They, United States of Israel, want control of Irans oil.
3 US fleets in the area now.
Its the Great War for Civilisation, the Conquest of the Middle East.(Robert Fisk)
The Horror, the Horror.
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Israeli hostages killed in Gaza were holding white flag

Three Israeli hostages were killed in Shejaiya in northern Gaza.
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Interesting the Israeli hostages shot were holding up white flags. Gives the impression of Israeli forces firing indiscriminately or else deliberately killing their own in order to justify the horror they are committing. If it was indeed the second option, they have been caught. Surely are Israeli people are turning on netenyahu.
 
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Israeli hostages killed in Gaza were holding white flag

Three Israeli hostages were killed in Shejaiya in northern Gaza.
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Interesting the Israeli hostages shot were holding up white flags. Gives the impression of Israeli forces firing indiscriminately or else deliberately killing their own in order to justify the horror they are committing. If it was indeed the second option, they have been caught. Surely are Israeli people are turning on netenyahu.
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There was SOS and help painted on the walls of the rooftop. The 3 had escaped from Hamas and were sheltering there. Shirts off to prove they didn't have any bombs, white flags made if cloths. IDF approached a d started firing. 2 of them instantly fell down dead. The 3rd got shot but started running to take shelter. He started shouting help in Hebrew, but IDF chased him down and shot him blank. If these are the atrocities that IDF commit against their own, imagine what they are like to others.

IDF is a terrorist organisation.
 

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tajhay said:
There was SOS and help painted on the walls of the rooftop. The 3 had escaped from Hamas and were sheltering there. Shirts off to prove they didn't have any bombs, white flags made if cloths. IDF approached a d started firing. 2 of them instantly fell down dead. The 3rd got shot but started running to take shelter. He started shouting help in Hebrew, but IDF chased him down and shot him blank. If these are the atrocities that IDF commit against their own, imagine what they are like to others.

IDF is a terrorist organisation.
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From Aljazeera.
Anas al-Sharif, our colleague at Al Jazeera Arabic, is reporting from the ground in #Gaza that #Israeli bulldozers have trampled over the tents used by Palestinians taking shelter outside Kamal Adwan Hospital and brutally crushed them.⁠
“A terrifying massacre and unspeakable scenes. What the Israeli occupation did inside Kamal Adwan Hospital is a horrific crime against citizens and medical staff,” al-Sharif said in a post on X.⁠
“Dozens of displaced, sick and wounded people were buried alive. The occupation [Israeli] bulldozers trampled the tents of the displaced people in the hospital yard and brutally crushed them.”⁠

View: https://www.instagram.com/p/C06WD-EM74h/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

There is a video of the aftermath, but I won't.
 
Rizzah said:
Rizzah said:
From Aljazeera.
Anas al-Sharif, our colleague at Al Jazeera Arabic, is reporting from the ground in #Gaza that #Israeli bulldozers have trampled over the tents used by Palestinians taking shelter outside Kamal Adwan Hospital and brutally crushed them.⁠
“A terrifying massacre and unspeakable scenes. What the Israeli occupation did inside Kamal Adwan Hospital is a horrific crime against citizens and medical staff,” al-Sharif said in a post on X.⁠
“Dozens of displaced, sick and wounded people were buried alive. The occupation [Israeli] bulldozers trampled the tents of the displaced people in the hospital yard and brutally crushed them.”⁠

View: https://www.instagram.com/p/C06WD-EM74h/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

There is a video of the aftermath, but I won't.
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From Aljazeera.
Anas al-Sharif, our colleague at Al Jazeera Arabic, is reporting from the ground in #Gaza that #Israeli bulldozers have trampled over the tents used by Palestinians taking shelter outside Kamal Adwan Hospital and brutally crushed them.⁠
“A terrifying massacre and unspeakable scenes. What the Israeli occupation did inside Kamal Adwan Hospital is a horrific crime against citizens and medical staff,” al-Sharif said in a post on X.⁠
“Dozens of displaced, sick and wounded people were buried alive. The occupation [Israeli] bulldozers trampled the tents of the displaced people in the hospital yard and brutally crushed them.”⁠

View: https://www.instagram.com/p/C06WD-EM74h/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

There is a video of the aftermath, but I won't.
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Has this been verified yet?

There's is a video of a tank bulldozing people circulating with these reports that appears to be footage from 10 years ago in Egypt, but this Gail Ellis may also be posting pro-Israeli propaganda. Very hard to tell in this bloodbath.
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Shocking indeed. I’ll elaborate further. The video making the rounds on social media on which this report is apparently based (which does...

Shocking indeed. I’ll elaborate further. The video making the rounds on social media on which this report is apparently based (which does actually show a bulldozer running over a tent camp) is this one. https://twitter.com/drhossamsamy65/status/1736173146955223508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E...
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Worried3death said:
Has this been verified yet?

There's is a video of a tank bulldozing people circulating with these reports that appears to be footage from 10 years ago in Egypt, but this Gail Ellis may also be posting pro-Israeli propaganda. Very hard to tell in this bloodbath.
www.quora.com

Shocking indeed. I’ll elaborate further. The video making the rounds on social media on which this report is apparently based (which does...

Shocking indeed. I’ll elaborate further. The video making the rounds on social media on which this report is apparently based (which does actually show a bulldozer running over a tent camp) is this one. https://twitter.com/drhossamsamy65/status/1736173146955223508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E...
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I have seen two videos of the aftermath, with bodies and parts of bodies clearly visible under the crushed/moved earth outside the hospital.
It wasn't a tank(s), they used an armoured bulldozer. The IOF is using the bulldozers to destroy/level infrastructure/dig up roads etc through Gaza.
 
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The respective populations need to wake up. Both Hamas and Israel have leaderships that act on ideological/religious dogma. Some of which predates Christ. Both sides need to find ways to live together. That may involve compromise in faith and land. Neither side have leaders that will move towards that. Get rid of them.
 
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The respective populations need to wake up. Both Hamas and Israel have leaderships that act on ideological/religious dogma. Some of which predates Christ. Both sides need to find ways to live together. That may involve compromise in faith and land. Neither side have leaders that will move towards that. Get rid of them.
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If one set of people are occupied/under oppression/apartheid conditions with family members constantly murdered they will rebel against it (natural thing to do).
This is in the US and Israel's hands, they are the occupying force. They retain control. The US could broker a ceasefire and steps to peace, Israel would need to enter talks in good faith, because they hold the power and are likely to have to cede the most land due to settler violence and confiscation.
If the US and Israel aren't happy with Hamas, offer up an alternative. Negotiate with the PA (West Bank). Drop the blockade and occupation. They could do it in stages. The West Bank first (No Hamas), remove the check points (or at least remove the military from them initially). Allow integration, give Palestinians in Israel the same rights as the Jewish population. Investigate war crimes (both sides), hold people to justice. Some form of restorative justice (ala Truth and reconciliation commission in South Africa). Reparations for Palestinian victims and families. There are so many layers that need to be addressed for this to work - most require Israel to cede some power, which I don't think will happen. Esp with the current govt.
 

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Rizzah said:
If one set of people are occupied/under oppression/apartheid conditions with family members constantly murdered they will rebel against it (natural thing to do).
This is in the US and Israel's hands, they are the occupying force. They retain control. The US could broker a ceasefire and steps to peace, Israel would need to enter talks in good faith, because they hold the power and are likely to have to cede the most land due to settler violence and confiscation.
If the US and Israel aren't happy with Hamas, offer up an alternative. Negotiate with the PA (West Bank). Drop the blockade and occupation. They could do it in stages. The West Bank first (No Hamas), remove the check points (or at least remove the military from them initially). Allow integration, give Palestinians in Israel the same rights as the Jewish population. Investigate war crimes (both sides), hold people to justice. Some form of restorative justice (ala Truth and reconciliation commission in South Africa). Reparations for Palestinian victims and families. There are so many layers that need to be addressed for this to work - most require Israel to cede some power, which I don't think will happen. Esp with the current govt.
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One of the first steps to lasting peace, is, as you say, for Palestinians to be given the same rights Israeli's in all aspects of their lives including the right to own property anywhere and not have it taken from them. That, or go back to a two state solution. Before the arrival of Islam, most of the Palestinians Arabs would have been Jewish - it distant relations fighting each other.
 

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Just food for thought with the war raging on.. that this time 2morrow people will be exchanging presents and getting fat on Xmas dinner and a few beers or so as well.... all to celebrate a little Jewish boy born in Bethlehem and died in Jerusalem in the land of Judah/Israel some 2000 years ago... it wasn't Palestine back then..
I just hope all my wahs brothers and sisters put away any prejudices and fears and have an enjoyable day 2morrow ... cheers
 
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