Nothing to defend. It stands on it's own merits, as you all stand on your own circular biases.
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Yeah you’re the normal one, it’s everyone else who are the problem aye.
I am a member of Mensa
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What was your score? Minimum is 132
I never was told the score
Went in, sat the test, got accepted. Cut off was 98th percentile
To be completely honest, I did it during a period of low self esteem, and seeing whether I would get accepted was something I had long thought about and decided I wanted to prove something to myself
Back in the real world and not the paedo app
TLDR Meant to raise $100M, they lost $500M in capital and assets
Norway's Tax Experiment: A Costly Exodus - IMGlobal Wealth
Norway raised its wealth tax aiming for fairness—but the outcome sparked a surprising exodus. What happens when high earners pack up? The real cost may be more than expected.
imglobalwealth.com
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Economics Mensa?
Frank, you're obsessed and quite frankly defined by your own baseness. That really says it all about you.Back in the real world and not the paedo app
TLDR Meant to raise $100M, they lost $500M in capital and assets
Norway's Tax Experiment: A Costly Exodus - IMGlobal Wealth
Norway raised its wealth tax aiming for fairness—but the outcome sparked a surprising exodus. What happens when high earners pack up? The real cost may be more than expected.
Congratulations btw
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Here's an easy one. What's been the predominant economic system in New Zealand, irrespective of party in power, for the last 50 years?
It also happens to be driven by the right and far right around the world and is one of the high drivers of inequality.
Hope it worked with the self esteem. Interesting never finding out the score, obviously higher than 132 being the minimum. Good on you for the achievement
Fire up the barbeques.... it's time to roast the landlords.....
Mark Cameron (ACT, List)
Green - two rental/investment properties. 2 of 15 Greens MP's (13%) own rental/investment properties. 7% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by Greens MP's.
Steve Abel (Green, List)
Labour - nine rental/investment properties. 4 of 34 Labour MP's (12%) own rental/investment properties. 14% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by Labour MP's.
Hon Ginny Andersen (Labour, List)
National - 26 rental/investment properties. 17 of 49 National MP's (35%) own rental/investment properties. 59% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by National MP's.
Miles Anderson (National, Waitaki)
NZ First - one rental/investment properties. 1 of 8 NZ First MP's (13%) own rental/investment properties. 3% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by NZ First MP's.
Jamie Arbuckle (NZ First, List)
Te Pāti Māori - two rental/investment properties. 2 of 6 Te Pāti Māori MP's (33%) own rental/investment properties. 6% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by Te Pāti Māori MP's.
Tākuta Ferris (Te Pāti Māori, Te Tai Tonga)
MPs’ ‘real property, interests (Jan 31, 2025)
ACT - nine rental/investment properties. 3 of 11 ACT MP's (27%) own rental/investment properties. 10% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by ACT MP's.Mark Cameron (ACT, List)
- Farm (owned by trust) – Ruawai, Northland
- Farmland – Ruawai, Northland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Waitakere, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Thorndon, Wellington
- Family home (P & S Court Trust) – Glenholme, Rotorua
- Family home (P & S Court Trust) – Whangaparāoa, Auckland
- Family farm – Kiwitea, Manawatū
- Rental properties (x2; as beneficiary of trust) – Tauranga
- Commercial properties (x2; as beneficiary of trust) – Tauranga
- Family home (jointly owned) – Beckenham, Christchurch
- Family home (under construction) – Halswell, Christchurch
- Family home (jointly owned) – Wellington
- Residential rental property – Remuera, Auckland
- Residential rental property – Half Moon Bay, Auckland
- Commercial property – Mount Wellington, Auckland
- Family home (owned by trust) – Eastern Beach, Auckland
- Residential rental town houses (x4) – Bucklands Beach, Auckland
- Residential home (as discretionary beneficiary of trust) – Whangārei
- Holiday home (as discretionary beneficiary of trust) – Northland
- Section (as discretionary beneficiary of trust) – Whangārei
- Residential home (as beneficiary of trust) – Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Queenstown
- Apartments (x2; jointly owned) – Wellington
- Apartment (jointly owned) – Sydney, Australia
- Apartment (jointly owned) – Geelong, Australia
- Apartment (held in trust) – Wellington
- Rental property (held in trust) – Te Ānau
- Family home – Auckland
Green - two rental/investment properties. 2 of 15 Greens MP's (13%) own rental/investment properties. 7% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by Greens MP's.
Steve Abel (Green, List)
- Family home (jointly owned) – West Auckland
- Family home – Christchurch
- Family home – Manurewa, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Waikato
- Family home (jointly owned) – Rongotai electorate
- No recorded real property
- Family home – Tikipunga, Whangārei
- No recorded real property
- No recorded real property
- Family home (owned by Ngoc-Lan Pham Partnership) – Wellington
- Apartment (jointly owned) – Auckland Central
- Family home (jointly owned) – Manawatū
- Whānau home – Manurewa
- Family home and native forest – Wairarapa
- Rental property – Island Bay, Wellington
- Family home (jointly owned) – Waitati, Dunedin
- Family home (jointly owned) – Mt Wellington, Auckland
- Rental property – Richmond, Christchurch
Labour - nine rental/investment properties. 4 of 34 Labour MP's (12%) own rental/investment properties. 14% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by Labour MP's.
Hon Ginny Andersen (Labour, List)
- Family home (jointly owned) – Belmont, Lower Hutt, Wellington
- Family home (jointly owned) – Auckland
- Former family home (jointly owned leasehold property) – London, United Kingdom
- Family holiday home (discretionary beneficial interest; owned by The Belich Trust) – Waikanae Beach
- Residential property (jointly owned) – Marfell, New Plymouth
- Family home (jointly owned) – Nelson
- Family home (jointly owned) – Dunedin
- Residential property (in family trust) – Dunedin
- Family home – North Brighton
- Holiday home – Banks Peninsula
- Rental property – Christchurch
- Family home (jointly owned) – Porirua
- Family home (jointly owned) – Ōtāhuhu, Auckland
- Residential property (in trust) – Napier
- No recorded real property
- Family home – Upper Hutt, Wellington
- Residential property (owned by superannuation trust) – Raumati South, Paraparaumu
- Family homes (x2; jointly owned) – Māngere Bridge, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Rotorua
- Apartment (jointly owned) – Wellington City Centre
- Family home – Kew, Dunedin
- Rental property – South Dunedin
- Family home (jointly owned) – Hinds, Ashburton
- Holiday home (jointly owned) – Akaroa
- Family home (jointly owned) – Masterton
- Flat (jointly owned) – Lower Hutt
- Family home – Christchurch
- Rental property – Christchurch
- Family home – Upper Moutere
- Family home – Wellington
- Family home (half-share) – Auckland
- Holiday home (owned by trust) – Karitane, Otago
- Family home (jointly owned) – Pakaraka, Northland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Whangaehu
- Interests in 26 Māori land blocks – Aotea District
- Interests in one Māori land block – Tai Tokerau District
- Interests in two Māori land blocks – Tākitimu District
- Interests in 11 Māori land blocks – Waipounamu District
- Interests in Waipū general land block – Rātana Paa
- Family home (jointly owned) – Titirangi, Auckland
- House (jointly owned) – Karori, Wellington
- Family home (jointly owned) – Onehunga, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Auckland
- Rental property (owned by Praescient Limited) – Auckland
- Apartment (jointly owned by Kaha’u Superannuation Fund) – Auckland
- Apartment (jointly owned by Kaha’u Superannuation Fund) – Wellington
- Two acres of land, no dwellings (99-year lease) – Haveluloto, Tonga
- Family home – Titirangi, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Favona, Auckland
- Family home – East Coast
- Interest in one land block – Rangitukia, East Coast
- Family home – Mātua, Tauranga
- Apartment – Wellington Central
- Family home (owned by family trust) – Te Atatū Peninsula
- Family home (jointly owned) – Palmerston North
- Family home (jointly owned) – Wellington
- Family property (jointly owned) – Malé, Maldives
- Family home (owned by trust) – Christchurch
- Share in family home (owned by trust) – Wellington
- Home (owned by Puriri Trust) – Sandringham, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Manurewa, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Te Aro, Wellington
- Home – Hillmorton, Christchurch
- Home (jointly owned) – Hillmorton, Christchurch
National - 26 rental/investment properties. 17 of 49 National MP's (35%) own rental/investment properties. 59% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by National MP's.
Miles Anderson (National, Waitaki)
- Family home (owned by Braehead Grange Trust) – Southburn
- Farmland (owned by Braehead Grange Trust) – Southburn
- Farmland (owned by Animal Scanning Services (NZ) Limited) – Southburn
- Former family home (in trust) – Manawatū
- Rental property (in trust) – Whanganui
- Rental apartments (x2, in trust) – Wellington
- Family home – Whanganui
- Family home (in trust) – Bombay, Auckland
- Farm (in trust) – Waikato
- Apartment (in trust) – Wellington
- Apartment (in trust) – Queenstown
- Commercial property (through Paparimu Land Limited) – Onehunga, Auckland
- Commercial property (in trust) – Pukekohe
- Family home (jointly owned) – Birkenhead, Auckland
- Family home – Days Bay, Lower Hutt
- Family home (jointly owned) – Hobsonville Point, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Pakuranga
- Family property (jointly owned) – Pakuranga
- Property – Havelock, Marlborough
- Residential property (x2) – Ilam, Christchurch
- Residential property – Fendalton, Christchurch
- Residential property – Wellington
- Family home (owned by trust) – Masterton
- Farmland (owned by trust) – Masterton
- Family home – Riccarton, Christchurch
- Family home (jointly owned) – Mount Roskill, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Thorndon, Wellington
- Rental property (jointly owned) – Epsom, Auckland
- Rental property (x3; jointly owned) – Mount Wellington, Auckland
- Rental property (jointly owned) – Sandringham, Auckland
- Family home (owned by trusts) – Auckland
- Commercial and residential property (owned by superannuation scheme) – Wellington
- Residential property (owned by superannuation scheme) – Nelson
- Family home – Waikanae
- Rental property (x2) – Palmerston North
- Flat – Wellington
- Family home (owned by trust) – Rangiora, Waimakariri
- Residential property (owned by trust) – Merivale, Christchurch
- Rental property (owned by trust) – Burnside, Christchurch
- Family home – Greenlane, Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Parnell, Auckland
- Investment property – Wellington CBD, Wellington
- Family home (owned by family trust) – Remuera
- Apartment – Wellington
- House (half-share) – Waitakere Ranges
- Home – Prebbleton
- Rental property – Rolleston
- Family home (owned by trust) – Hamilton
- Apartment (owned by trust) – Wellington
- Family home – Gisborne
- Apartment – Gisborne
- Family home (owned by L S & B J Kuriger Trusts Partnership) – New Plymouth
- Family home (owned by L S & B J Kuriger Trusts Partnership) – Te Awamutu
- Dairy farm (owned by Shortland Farm Limited Partnership) – Ōpunake
- Dairy farm (owned by Shortland Farm No 2 Limited Partnership) – Ōpunake
- Dairy farm grazing unit (joined leasehold interest) – Ōpunake
- Apartment (owned by L S & B J Kuriger Trusts Partnership) – Wellington
- Family home – Auckland
- Rental property (owned by superannuation scheme) – Wellington
- Rental property (x2) – Pakuranga, Auckland
- Residential properties (x2) – Auckland
- Investment property – Auckland
- Primary residence – New Plymouth
- Apartment – Wellington
- Holiday house – Kinloch
- Rental property – New Plymouth
- Family home – Maungaturoto
- Private home – Rotorua
- Home – Belgium
- Private home – Pukehina
- No recorded real property
- Family home – Millwater, Auckland
- Apartment – Thorndon, Wellington
- Rental property (residential) – Ōrewa, Auckland
- Family holiday home – Kūaotunu, Coromandel
- Family holiday home – Bali, Indonesia
- Family home – Central Otago
- Family home – South Auckland
- Family home (jointly owned) – Marewa, Napier
- Rental property (x2; jointly owned) – Havelock North, Hastings
- Family home (owned by The Barkley Trust) – Waitakere, Auckland
- Rental property (jointly owned) – Central-East Auckland
- Family home – Hamilton
- Family farm and houses (in Tatau Tatau Trust) – Rangitīkei
- Rental property (in Tama and Ariana whānau trust) – Hamilton
- Family home – Turiwhate
- Farm – Turiwhate
- Timeshare – Toormina, New South Wales, Australia
- Farm (owned by trust) – Turakina
- Family home (owned by trust) – Taupō
- Apartment (jointly owned with trust) – Auckland
- Residential property – Whangārei
- Commercial building (in Shane Reti Blind Trust) – Whangārei
- Rental property (in Shane Reti Blind Trust) – Kohimarama
- Residential property (in Shane Reti Blind Trust) – Whangārei
- Family home – Pāpāmoa, Tauranga
- Family home and farm (jointly owned) – Mabel Bush, Southland
- Farm (jointly owned) – Ryal Bush, Southland
- Family cribs (x3; owned by family trust) – Riverton, Southland
- Rental property (owned by family trust) – Invercargill
- Land (owned by New Chums Trust) – Whangapoua, Coromandel
- Family home – Thames
- Rental property – Remuera, Auckland
- Family home – Kūaotunu, Coromandel
- Family home (owned by Tayler-Smith Family Trust) – Dry Hills, Blenheim
- Apartment (owned by Tayler-Smith Family Trust) – Thorndon, Wellington
- Timeshare week (owned by Tayler-Smith Family Trust) – Queenstown Mews
- Rental property (owned by Tayler-Smith Family Trust) – Redwood, Blenheim
- Apartment (half-share owned by Tayler-Smith Family Trust) – Frankton, Queenstown
- Family home – Ōkura
- Residential property, holiday home (owned by family trust) – Whangamatā
- Family home (owned by trust) – Paengaroa
- Family home (jointly owned) – Cambridge
- Apartment (jointly owned) – Wellington
- Horticultural property (owned by Caritim Limited) – Tamahere, Waikato
- Residential houses (x2; owned by van de Molen Family Trust) – Tamahere, Waikato
- Family home (owned by trust) – North Shore
- Residential section (owned by trust) – Cambridge
- Commercial property (owned by trust) – Cambridge
- Holiday home (owned by trust) – Waihi Beach
- Family home (jointly owned) – Havelock North
- Apartment – Wellington
- Family home (x2; jointly owned) – Christchurch
- Apartment – Wellington
- House (jointly owned) – Karori, Wellington
- House (owned by Appledore Trust) – Kelburn, Wellington
- House (owned by Appledore Trust) – Riversdale, Wairarapa
- House (owned by Appledore Trust) – Wānaka
NZ First - one rental/investment properties. 1 of 8 NZ First MP's (13%) own rental/investment properties. 3% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by NZ First MP's.
Jamie Arbuckle (NZ First, List)
- Family home (also used as short-term rental property; jointly owned) – Blenheim
- Apartment (jointly owned) – Wellington
- Family home – Pōkeno, Waikato
- Family home – Whangaruru, Northland
- Family home – Wellington
- Family home – Bay of Islands
- House – Maimaru
- House – Hihi, Tai Tokerau
- Family residential section – Warkworth, Auckland
- Family home – Dunedin
- Apartment – Wellington
- House – St Marys Bay, Auckland
- House – Whananaki South, Northland
- Land – Whananaki South, Northland
- No recorded real property
Te Pāti Māori - two rental/investment properties. 2 of 6 Te Pāti Māori MP's (33%) own rental/investment properties. 6% of all investment properties owned by MP's are owned by Te Pāti Māori MP's.
Tākuta Ferris (Te Pāti Māori, Te Tai Tonga)
- Rental property (jointly owned) – Ōtaki
- Family home – Whangārei
- Family rental – Whangārei
- Family land block – Waitōtara Valley
- Family home (in trust) – Beach Haven
- Family whenua (in trust) – Bay of Islands
- Kāinga (home) – Ohangai, Hāwera, South Taranaki
- Family home (jointly owned) – Whakatāne, Eastern Bay of Plenty
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Doesn’t matter who’s in government that they have an invested interest in rentals. There needs to be something independent of them
Capital Gains Tax!
Well thankfully it hasn’t been the communist utopia that would make you a happy boy.
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- Thread starter
- #16,456
Check mate on the wealth tax debate!Back in the real world and not the paedo app
TLDR Meant to raise $100M, they lost $500M in capital and assets
Norway's Tax Experiment: A Costly Exodus - IMGlobal Wealth
Norway raised its wealth tax aiming for fairness—but the outcome sparked a surprising exodus. What happens when high earners pack up? The real cost may be more than expected.
Why implement something proven to be a failure?
End of the day, picking on 10% and distributing it to 90% sounds like perfect policies but it just ain’t fair and the picked on have the means to go somewhere they are appreciated, instead of being seen as a piggy bank to raid.
But surely you can answer that very, very, very easy question right?
Checkmate? Really? Man, you wish things hard Wiz.
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What the fuck? You some sort of economic lecturer all of a sudden haha. Capitalism, free market, call it whatever you want. I studied micro & macro economics so long ago I can barely recall which was which.
- Thread starter
- #16,460
Where has a wealth tax ever worked?
I mean why not just introduce a policy to introduce $1m tax on all tourists and we would be rich and conveniently forget people will react and change their behaviour…
About as much sense, credibility and successful implementation as a wealth tax.
(Ps I think Labour won’t go this way and will push for a CGT)
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