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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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Of course it’s risk taking however not one I agree with. I think people are delusional if they think we’re going back to the HPI growth rates we saw over the last few decades.
The last few decades have already happened. It's done. And there's no sign of this stopping. My family home has increased in value by at least 50% in the last 6 years. I was only able to get into this house because of intergenerational wealth. I work about as hard as the next guy in my job, and do good things in the community when I can. My wealth, such as it is, is not particularly deserved, and is not the product of especially hard work. My story is standard.
 

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Buying investment properties is not risk taking. There is a bipartisan agreement that house prizes will always rise.
Right now people aren’t buying investment property because there is the risk the Greens/ Labour will get in and kill the whole market like they did last time.

It is risk taking atm and we’re all paying for it in higher rent and not enough houses for all the immigrants.
 
Right now people aren’t buying investment property because there is the risk the Greens/ Labour will get in and kill the whole market like they did last time.

It is risk taking atm and we’re all paying for it in higher rent and not enough houses for all the immigrants.
Have a look at the housing market here


Price changes are clearly best explained by the reserve bank anticipating economic catastrophe with covid and slashing interest rates, then freaking out about inflation and hiking interest rates, which we're still in the hangover of. Prior to Covid house prices were doing just about he same as they always do.
 

This was 4 months ago of people leaving in record numbers. Not sure of recent figures or whether they were the brightest and hardest working?
Yup, easier narrative to say it's the best and brightest and hardest working. Also probably forgetting that we have just come out of years of a pandemic where no one was doing their OEs and now are catching up.
 
Yup, easier narrative to say it's the best and brightest and hardest working. Also probably forgetting that we have just come out of years of a pandemic where no one was doing their OEs and now are catching up.
I’m picking 80% of people leaving for Australia are recent immigrants coming through NZ as a back door into Aussie.

I have no stats to back this up, just anecdotal evidence.

Of course there are still born and bred kiwis going as well but feel they are the minority.
 
I thought everyone was leaving, shouldn't there be plenty of houses after the great exodus? What's the import/export balance
They've been bought up by uber landlords seeking to dodge tax - okay, I should add a smiley face :) but it's probably true (I'm starting to sound like wiz)


 
I’m picking 80% of people leaving for Australia are recent immigrants coming through NZ as a back door into Aussie.

I have no stats to back this up, just anecdotal evidence.

Of course there are still born and bred kiwis going as well but feel they are the minority.

Here’s a reasonable explanation. NZ just can’t compete with what Australia can offer in wages and a way of life that’s a draw for some. Many often return later in life but unfortunately we’ve missed what they contribute to our economy in their working careers
 
I was only able to get into this house because of intergenerational wealth. I work about as hard as the next guy in my job, and do good things in the community when I can. My wealth, such as it is, is not particularly deserved, and is not the product of especially hard work. My story is standard.
Then someone your family worked hard enough or got lucky enough to cover for you. Which makes it entirely deserved.
 

Here’s a reasonable explanation. NZ just can’t compete with what Australia can offer in wages and a way of life that’s a draw for some. Many often return later in life but unfortunately we’ve missed what they contribute to our economy in their working careers
I am one who returned from Oz after 23 years and only because my parents were struggling with health issues.
I was in business over there and started again with a business on my return.
Been a good earner for me until the last 6 months and now I am finding most of my clients are struggling.
E.G. Down approximately 45% since Christmas.
Don't know were these green shoots are that government keeps banging on about
 
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