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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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They can't all be doing nothing all day ...or can they?
The Pareto principle states that for many outcomes, roughly 80% of consequences come from 20% of causes (the "vital few").

The public service self select people who aren't "high performers" at a much higher rate. This then leads to institutional culture. But yes the entire public service will be being maintained by the 20%. I mean HR managers & cultural advisors dont really produce much now do they?
 
The Pareto principle states that for many outcomes, roughly 80% of consequences come from 20% of causes (the "vital few").

The public service self select people who aren't "high performers" at a much higher rate. This then leads to institutional culture. But yes the entire public service will be being maintained by the 20%. I mean HR managers & cultural advisors dont really produce much now do they?
Pretty much this. The 80% have a Lack of urgency, lack of performance, low output. The other 20% producing value and getting frustrated by the other 80% so they either leave or lower themselves to that level because why wouldn't they?
 
Pretty much this. The 80% have a Lack of urgency, lack of performance, low output. The other 20% producing value and getting frustrated by the other 80% so they either leave or lower themselves to that level because why wouldn't they?
This is everywhere, not just in the public service.
The majority of the employees at the company I work for, could perish tomorrow and it would continue unaffected.
 

A FTE figure over time is kinda meaningless. It doesn't take into account population growth or expansion of services and need. It'd be better to see what the percentage of the workforce is employed by the PS and how this has changed over time. Not forgetting we had pretty extreme population growth in NZ over that time
Even then, what is an ideal number of public service employees? Remembering they cover a wide range of roles - healthcare, education, law enforcement, public safety, social services, environmental/conservation, regulatory agencies, government administration.
I can think of a few sectors off the top of my head which don't have enough staff, healthcare - nursing, doctors. education, social services, courts and policing.
 
A FTE figure over time is kinda meaningless. It doesn't take into account population growth or expansion of services and need. It'd be better to see what the percentage of the workforce is employed by the PS and how this has changed over time. Not forgetting we had pretty extreme population growth in NZ over that time
Even then, what is an ideal number of public service employees? Remembering they cover a wide range of roles - healthcare, education, law enforcement, public safety, social services, environmental/conservation, regulatory agencies, government administration.
I can think of a few sectors off the top of my head which don't have enough staff, healthcare - nursing, doctors. education, social services, courts and policing.
Read the graph. It excludes front line public service workers
 
This is everywhere, not just in the public service.
The majority of the employees at the company I work for, could perish tomorrow and it would continue unaffected.
Has your company personal doubled in size without a corresponding rise in improvement? There are always examples of employees at companies like that but the difference is the number of layers and people in the public sector and the overall level of output.
 
Has your company personal doubled in size without a corresponding rise in improvement? There are always examples of employees at companies like that but the difference is the number of layers and people in the public sector and the overall level of output.
We have doubled our R&D department for zero output.
 
This is everywhere, not just in the public service.
The majority of the employees at the company I work for, could perish tomorrow and it would continue unaffected.
Honestly mate, find a new employer.

Your employer doesn’t have any ambition so your talents are wasted there 🤣

Go to a high performing company!
 
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