General Will we make the 8?

I will post this here seeing as it is discussing the finals.

From this article, around resting players and the impact on the broadcasting deal.

If the Warriors secure a top four berth at the weekend, they are set to rest players for their last-round encounter against Manly rather than have a full-strength squad fly to Australia and back a week out from the finals. Canterbury may also have the luxury of giving players leave passes for the round 27 showdown with Cronulla should they be secure in the top four, while likely minor premiers Canberra face a similar opportunity ahead of a trip to Brisbane to meet the Dolphins.

This reads like we have stated we will rest players. Like it is a fact. Has that been mentioned anywhere?

From what I've seen, our coaching staff are more concerned with how we have been performing on the field and turning that around.

The team has been disrupted by injuries. Our halves haven't played together consistently, our fullback was playing centre. We spent a large proportion of the year playing with a second rower at right centre and recently Pompey covering at right centre. I'd say out of the current teams vying for a top 4 spot, we are the ones most in need of game time


Surely limiting some of our travel at the end of a long season is fair enough to rest a few players. Let's hope we become a regular top 4 team to have that debate. We may get teams resting players for a similar reason, wanting to avoid travelling to NZ and back.

I have said in the past that for Grand Finals, it is more likely we will qualify for a Grand Final by playing and winning the week before in Australia and we should consider staying over there. As travelling back to NZ loses us a day, then we also have to head back early for the Grand Final breakfast etc. We lose preparation time while the opposition is training.

For all we know the club may be thinking the first week of the finals is an away game and might be considering staying in camp over there to perform week 1. The following game is then at home in NZ.
I think the fact that we lost Metcalf half-way through the season and all the disruption that's caused will probably see, at most, Fisher-Harris, Clark and maybe Tuivasa-Sheck, who you'd say are part ofthe Warriors Best 17, rested. Maybe beyond that Tuiapaki on the bench comes on to spell Charnze (or some other way to give Charnze a break).

To your last point. Our home game will either be Week 2 or (if, please, please, Rugby League Gods, we win Week 1!), Week 3. I'd think the team will come back home to get some fan-love after the Sea Eagles game (I think that's just the PR choice they'll make, I wouldn't mind if they didn't do it, personally, just a few "We love you Wahs Fans! We're gonna NAIL the Raiders/Bulldogs and then we're coming HOME on the next step of Bringing That Trophy To Where It BELONGS!" videos from Straya will do me).

So, yeah, if Ivan can do it, given, as I say, the Metcalf Situation, I'd be making a few changes if I was Andrew.
 

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If Ivan wants to come back, you make room for him. It Doesn't mean Webster moves on either but Ivans Warriors through and through.❤️💙💚

I just to think this way, but recently I'm not so sure.

It's not that don't put value on Ivan. He's top knotch. It's more that I have a lot of faith that we have what we need in Cappy and Webby.

For the first time in the 20 years I've supported the club, a premiership has felt like an inevitably to me.
 
I just to think this way, but recently I'm not so sure.

It's not that don't put value on Ivan. He's top knotch. It's more that I have a lot of faith that we have what we need in Cappy and Webby.

For the first time in the 20 years I've supported the club, a premiership has felt like an inevitably to me.
The foundations do seem the best they have ever been here, but i do think Ivan can get that next bit of structure and nutrition out of a team just because of his wizard like penrith run.
You are right though with Webbys setup he will take us there but he still has alot to learn,
Ivan should only comeback as a support advisor not to knock webster off.
 
Its a tough one as it borders on result fixing without it actually being that. By the same token the toll on the body towards the end of the season is monumental regardless of the severity of injury so player welfare comes into it. 12 games at home and 12 away is also the perfect number and reducing the number of games will erode what makes this comp so great. I don't know what the answer is that would be fair.

Like it or not, this is what it takes to win the comp. Storm have always been cheats and thrive on pushing and exploiting rules to the limit. Penreff have adopted that approach, except with less cap cheating. Outside of them there's the rule pushing Roosters, peptide Sharks etc.

Dogs are grubby AF, a bit amatuer about it but they're building to it. Also their salary cap and recruitment shennagins. Raiders honestly just so impressive and I hope they win it if we don't. Feel like they will come up a game or two short yet again.

The only other way is to basically have an immortal level talent (e.g. Thurston). Though I am unsure even a team with him in it could win in this current environment, without pushing the rules to the limits.

If you can't beat 'em, and we can't, you need to join 'em. We should be looking to exploit every loophole and fringe rule we can. Double for us considering we're the most disadvantaged club in the league by a margin.

I am skeptical we'd ever be allowed to push the rules in the same way aussie clubs are though. In which case I think we need multiple generational talents all at the same time, plus some key injuries to contenders at the right time, for the stars to align on a single championship.
I would like to think that I support a club which does NOT infringe the rules nor goes about trying to enhance their chances at the expense of other teams.. Only then could I hold my head up high, knowing we have achieved on merit and deserve our victory.
 
More than likely we rest players if we lock in top 4 this weekend, same as 2023 Dolphins game. While it may detract from seeing certain teams play each other resting their first choice team, it could also go the other way with some teams playing more high risk footy without their regulars and there being not much weighing on the outcomes of matches.

It also means teams are more fresh for finals making for more exciting finals matches.
How long does it take to freshen up players? Would it be better to add two weeks on after the last round Rd 27 so that all teams can freshen up before the finals.?
 
After all the Penrith shenanigans this week giving up on their top 4 chances, It makes you wonder just how valuable top 4 is to Suburban Sydney teams like them or the Sharks. Clearly it is a huge leg up for us, the Storm or Broncs getting to play at MSS, Olympic Park or Suncorp in week 2.

But if the Sharks for example beat us to 4th, which they won't of course, they would likely be forced to play their "home" semi final at Accor. There is no way the NRL would allow the Sharks to play the week 2 "home" final at Shark Park which they haven't done in previous years they've made the 4 (2022, 2024). So wouldn't they prefer to just finish 5th and 6th so that they are guaranteed to play at least one finals at Shark Park in week 1?
 
How long does it take to freshen up players? Would it be better to add two weeks on after the last round Rd 27 so that all teams can freshen up before the finals.?
Based on the byes a week off seems fine for most players. AFL does a bye week before their finals series. After watching the Panthers vs Dogs game though it's really not enjoyable watching a first grade side play vs. a cup team. Thought Panthers were pretty brave but the contrast between the sides was pretty obvious.
 
ivan as recently as last year said he might retire at the end of his current contract i.e. end of 2027 due to the toll it takes on his andh his families life. I can see that happening. He has achieved quite a bit, and can now look forward to seeing his sons carry over the name whilst he can chill in the grandstand and watch the games without any pressure.
 
After all the Penrith shenanigans this week giving up on their top 4 chances, It makes you wonder just how valuable top 4 is to Suburban Sydney teams like them or the Sharks. Clearly it is a huge leg up for us, the Storm or Broncs getting to play at MSS, Olympic Park or Suncorp in week 2.

But if the Sharks for example beat us to 4th, which they won't of course, they would likely be forced to play their "home" semi final at Accor. There is no way the NRL would allow the Sharks to play the week 2 "home" final at Shark Park which they haven't done in previous years they've made the 4 (2022, 2024). So wouldn't they prefer to just finish 5th and 6th so that they are guaranteed to play at least one finals at Shark Park in week 1?

Hope we don’t end up at Eden park

ivan as recently as last year said he might retire at the end of his current contract i.e. end of 2027 due to the toll it takes on his andh his families life. I can see that happening. He has achieved quite a bit, and can now look forward to seeing his sons carry over the name whilst he can chill in the grandstand and watch the games without any pressure.

He could be a consultant for us lol
 
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