General Warriors Preseason 2024

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Thought I'd start a preseason thread..
Interesting comment from SJ interview at the Dally M's... That day 1 preseason will be further advanced than last year.
Makes sense, IMO tend to think Webbys got the whole club on the same page.. professional approach to everything and instilled a generic game plan as last year's focus... interesting to see what the advancements will be...
 

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NRL: Why this season’s startling success is a taste of good times to come for the Warriors in 2024​


If you thought this season was good for the Warriors - wait until next year.

That seems to be the sentiment floating around the Mt Smart club, with unbridled optimism for the future after what looked like a transformational campaign.

It’s not a new feeling. For a good portion of their existence - and especially in the post-Ivan Cleary era - it’s been a common refrain.

During most seasons since the 2011 grand final, the Warriors have been characterised as a “next year” club. A good pre-season, a couple of signings, maybe a new coach and everything would be okay. It was typical for most NRL clubs - but was saddled on the Warriors most heavily - and the El Dorado season never really came, aside from 2018.

However, the signs are good for 2024. It won’t be easy to improve on this campaign, as the Warriors have only reached back-to back-preliminary finals once in their 28-year history (2002-2003) and their 16-8 regular season record was only one short of matching the best tally in the club’s history.

But something is happening at Mt Smart and it won’t be undone easily. After tasting success, the club are determined to stay at that altitude and there are strong foundations in place.

Andrew Webster

The 41-year-old is the most important piece of the puzzle. It’s easy to overlook but the preliminary final was only his 30th match as an NRL head coach. Craig Bellamy has more than 550 behind him, Ivan Cleary 424. Kevin Walters is a relative rookie (75 NRL games) but also has two Super League seasons to fall back on, along with four years as Queensland State of Origin coach. On that basis, Webster’s capacity to improve and grow is massive.

Settled squad

The 2023 squad was a new team, with eight recruits, many of whom became regulars in the 17, along with some big departures. Their combinations and cohesion were impressive off the back of one pre-season - imagine what can be achieved with another one. And unlike other top teams, the Warriors aren’t losing key men to other clubs. That may not be the case in 12 months, with a lot of contracts up for renewal, but it’s a good situation now, as Bayley Sironen and Viliami Vailea are the only notable departures.

The Tuivasa-Sheck effect

For most of his last Warriors stint, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck was the right guy at the wrong time, as his talent and capacity to make a difference was diluted by shortcomings around him. His return in 2024 is timely, giving the Warriors a different option out wide. He could be used with a roving commission on attack - similar to Joseph Manu at the Roosters - but should add plenty of punch. The 30-year-old will also drive standards even higher, though he is smart enough not to disrupt the chemistry already created this season.

Chanel Harris-Tavita is also a judicious re-signing, though he will be given time to settle after his year away.

Adjusting the recipe

The Warriors found themselves in 2023. They know what works - on both sides of the ball - so it is about adjusting and fine-tuning the recipe. Shaun Johnson will be a year older but can be influential again, as they expand their attacking repertoire. The defensive solidity was the most impressive aspect (third-best defence in the regular season), though there is always room to get better.

The Warriors tribe
The fanbase fell in love with the Warriors again this year, along with a whole lot of new followers, driven by the results and the snowballing Up the Wahs movement. That’s created a momentum that is self-fulfilling, as bumper crowds make the team even more difficult to beat at home.

Situation vacant

The Warriors need to find another prop option. Whether it is homegrown - or recruited - there is an over-reliance on Addin Fonua-Blake for forward grunt. He was spectacular this season, with huge minutes and metres as he only missed one match, but he will need more support for the team to reach their potential.

North Queensland provide warning

The Cowboys were the darlings of the NRL last season, catapulting from second-last in 2021 to third on the ladder. They reached the preliminary final, with Todd Payten awarded coach of the year. But they couldn’t back it up this year, undermined by a poor start and finished 11th, as they struggled to deal with new expectations.

A ‘kind draw’ again?

The NRL draw is a random beast - as you only face half the teams twice - and it bounced in the Warriors’ favour in 2023. They played Penrith, Brisbane and Melbourne just once, while the skew of home games in July and August helped with momentum. The Warriors also made their own luck, crucially winning all three matches before their byes and becoming a formidable team on the road.

Edging the injury lottery

On the one hand the Warriors had an awful run with injuries this year, as Webster didn’t have his best 17 available until the second week of the finals. Conversely, they avoided major injuries to the big five (Shaun Johnson, Tohu Harris, Addin Fonua-Blake, Wayde Egan and Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad), which was vital.

Conclusion

All the signs point to more success in 2024. It won’t be easy and not everything will go to script (as it sometimes felt this year, from the number of clutch wins to the timely arrival of Johnson’s second baby) but this Warriors team won’t be a one hit wonder. There is a gulf to be bridged with Penrith, Brisbane and to a lesser extent Melbourne, but the Auckland club are starting from a considerably higher place than other rivals.

 
I bumped into Mark Robinson this afternoon and he kindly gave me some time to chat ..( after I showed him my 3 Warriors key rings hanging off my Warriors lanyard for my one house key - it even got a hug! 🤩)
He mentioned how the playing group have told him how pumped they are and their confidence levels are sky high after last year and with the new coaching structure.
If they can get one or two of their player targets over the line then they think they can push on in 2024 🤞🤩👍🏾
 
Would you have him on SJ’s side?

My bias is wanting width across the park to stretch teams coast to coast.

So I strongly favor him being on the left....where our weakness lies.

We are so good on the right, so stacked, that we score at will, with or without a Roger Tuivasa Sheck. So for mine that is overkill.

I get why fans would want RTS and SJ together, I really do. Yes that would be lethal.

But Rocco is a right center, and a very good one potentially, people need to remember that for many of the Warriors better attacking years were when they had Vatuvei left Wing moves.

If RTS on the left becomes as problematic as the beast was on the left, then given how strong the right is, we would finally have that dream matrix that Daniel Anderson had, the ole 'unpredictable Warriors attack you from everywhere'.
 
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My bias is wanting width across the park to stretch teams coast to coast.

So I strongly favor him being on the left....where our weakness lies.

We are so good on the right, so stacked, that we score at will, with or without a Roger Tuivasa Sheck. So for mine that is overkill.

I get why fans would want RTS and SJ together, I really do. Yes that would be lethal.

But Rocco is a right center, and a very good one potentially, people need to remember that the Warriors best attacking years were when they stacked a Monster called Manu Vatuvei away from SJs side.

If RTS on the left becomes as problematic as the beast was on the left, then given how strong the right is, we would finally have that dream matrix that Daniel Anderson had, the ole 'unpredictable Warriors attack you from everywhere'.
Imagine you're Ali Leiataua, you've had a taste off the back of talent and now your looking to grow your knowledge of your position. There are a few guns ahead of you doing a good job, but then you've got RTS beside you learning from scratch as well.
Absolute dream scenario to be developing our most promising in. Ali may well have forced his way into the squad through the wing by the end of 2024.
 
I was thinking the same. I don't wanna read too much into it, but the whole 86% of what you're saying isn't coming out of your mouth thing, he doesn't look like a guy whose come over here for a paycheck. Dude looks motivated.

I was thinking the same after seeing that little blues from RTS yesterday too...when he was telling the story of asking Tohu and Jazz if there was something here. He just looks so motivated and happy to be back.

Something's brewing for next year for sure
finally having a fully professionally run football club with a coaching staff that is going to put every player in a position to succeed will do that.

there is an insta video of Montoya talking about how everyone has come back fit for once. from the front office to the coaching staff there has been an amazing effort to finally have an organization hell bent on succeeding. in saying that I'm still cautious about it all as this team has let me down too much
 
finally having a fully professionally run football club with a coaching staff that is going to put every player in a position to succeed will do that.

there is an insta video of Montoya talking about how everyone has come back fit for once. from the front office to the coaching staff there has been an amazing effort to finally have an organization hell bent on succeeding. in saying that I'm still cautious about it all as this team has let me down too much
Yeah….they look fit. I saw CNK the other day @ Pak n Save Mt Albert, we chatted briefly & I wished him well in 2024, hes in good nick and said “We’re ready to go bro”
 
They all look like they're going to be guns, Maiu'u I think could be similar to JFHi in he's not huge but he's powerful with good footwork, can't wait til we get to see some of these guys in the NRL. I like some of the things I've seen from Fukofuka too.
They all have an impressive carry but then leka gets the ball and it just looks different- he’s special.
I haven’t been this excited about a young warriors forward since Sonny fai.
 
Just an observation but good to see rts in the front of the pack in every pic I've seen I think we all have come to expect and know he is the ultimate professional but if he comes back more hungry and determined than ever he might finish quite high up on the best centers list after this season nice to be able to have a little faith in the coaching abilities around the club penrith have made so many good centers over the past couple of years so hopefully webby can replicate that.
 

I just wanna speak on two things in this vid, we've talked about before.

  • Jazz says "under pressure you fall back to your training" so true. Rising to the occasion is a myth, you resort to your base level of competence
  • He says " you can trust the blokes around you". High trust individuals are far more important to teams success than high performance individuals.
hot tips for anyone looking to lead a small team.
 
50 Days out!

50 days of grit to go before we meet the Sharks on a Friday night in Penrose.

How are we all feeling?

Been a lot of talk of who's here and who's not.

I just cannot wait for this season. Never have I felt more confident in the whole organisation.

And on the field, it is rare to have both a squad that is experienced and should be top 4 again, but with the salivating intrigue of some Juniors with enormous raps on them.
 

Warriors coach Andrew Webster reveals Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will have roving role in 2024 NRL season​


Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will have a unique roving role at the Warriors this year, used in a way that could be a first for the Auckland club.

While the 30-year-old is likely to be listed as a centre, he will have a licence to roam on attack, able to inject himself where he sees fit. The hybrid function aims to get the best out of Tuivasa-Sheck’s talents, while also adding variety and punch to the Warriors’ offensive options.

Coach Andrew Webster revealed his plan in an interview with the Herald just before Christmas.

“If you look at what Roger is very good at, it’s pretty clear,” said Webster. “He’s good at making people miss when he has the ball. He’s got a high work rate, he’s super agile, he’s unbelievably fit - I don’t want him just parked out in the centres, waiting for the ball. I want him to go and get it and once he gets it ... if he wants to stay in there and seize it again, he can stay there.”

Webster hopes for a best-of-both-worlds scenario, as Tuivasa-Sheck could add spark to the Warriors’ edge while also creating impetus around the ruck.

“I’m not having a quality player like Roger sitting out there doing nothing,” said Webster. “He is always looking for work and trust me, front rowers don’t want to tackle Roger.”

There will be some adjustment required, as fullback Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad had a remarkable 2023 campaign, especially with his charges through the middle and ability to create space for his outsides, particularly on the right flank, but the Warriors’ overall attack should be enhanced.

Tuivasa-Sheck’s role might look similar to how Joseph Manu has been employed at the Roosters over the past few seasons. The Kiwi international defends at right centre for the Sydney club but pops up everywhere on attack, especially in the opposition 20.

Webster didn’t specify if Tuivasa-Sheck would be used at right or left centre, saying all centre contenders will train on both sides throughout the pre-season.

Across his 195-game NRL career, Tuivasa-Sheck has never played centre – with 135 matches at fullback, 59 on the wing and one at five-eighth – but Webster is confident the adjustment won’t be too problematic.

“It’s mainly the defensive movements and learning our patterns there but he will be fine,” said Webster. “He has sat in the front line in rugby union [at second five and centre] and learnt that and he debuted for the Roosters on the wing. It was a long time ago [2012 and 2013] but it’s not like he hasn’t done it and can’t do it.

“I don’t think he will have much to learn on the attack side; if you give Rog the ball I won’t need to draw a script for him, he knows what he is going to do.”

The return of the 30-year-old to his hometown club – after two years away to chase his All Black ambitions – has captured the imagination of the league public and should bring significant commercial and off-field benefits.

But Tuivasa-Sheck was pursued by the Warriors for two overriding reasons – because of what he can add to the match-day mix, as well as the standards he sets in training.

“I wanted Roger to come to us because I thought he would fit in to the way this team needs to play,” explained Webster. “I want Roger to be himself because what he is already good at will work so well here.”

Webster reiterated that it is not his intention to use Tuivasa-Sheck at fullback, despite his previous deeds there, including his spectacular 2018 season, where he was honoured with the Dally M Medal. Nicoll-Klokstad will be the first-choice option, with Taine Tuauapiki as the back-up.

“Charnze is our fullback,” said Webster. “I don’t know how many reps Roger will get at fullback [in pre-season], if any. I’ve already got two fullbacks.”

Webster agreed that the possibility of Tuivasa-Sheck as custodian can’t be fully discounted – if there are injuries or suspensions - but it is only a fall-back option.

“You never know, at some stage in 2024 Roger may play fullback – and the media or the fans will say ‘you said he wasn’t going to play there’,” said Webster. “What I can say is that he is not going to play in front of Charnze, that is for sure.”

With a month until the first NRL trial against the Wests Tigers in Christchurch, the full squad is back in training, with Nicoll-Klokstad (Kiwis) and Addin Fonua-Blake (Tonga) the last to return due to their international commitments.

 
Listening to this interview with Webster from a couple months ago,:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_igoBI-H0s
it's interesting his perspective from 5:19 on what we need to win a grand final. We just need to keep doing what we're doing but we need to do it better, faster and while under pressure, plus adding a couple of details as teams will improve after last year and the NRL will be a different beast once again.

Sounds like he was pretty disappointed watching us lose to the Broncos and then didn't enjoy watching the grand final with us not in it. How refreshing it is to have a coach know what he's doing and be so passionate about winning with the Warriors. Can't wait to see how we go in the trial games. I'm confident that no matter who turns up to play on the day that we'll play our best. Bring on the '24 season!
 
Would anyone be able to post this please? Assume it's just confirming what we already know RTS in centre but curious if there's anything new.
The Warriors were just one victory away from playing in the 2023 grand final.

Rookie head coach Andrew Webster sits down with DAVID RICCIO to discuss the club’s resurgence and how he will maintain standards in 2024, while also addressing several positional conundrums.

David Riccio: Webby, let’s start with you. The Warriors told me at the time their decision to re-sign you was the quickest negotiations the club have ever done. Was it just as easy for you?

Andrew Webster: I had another two years to go and if the club wanted to leave it as is, I would’ve waited. But I had no intention in letting another club come along and try to sign me. So they asked me, do I want to stay? And I told them, ‘you know I do’, so it happened real quick. I want to be at the Warriors for as long as I can.

DR: It still is an extraordinary feat for a coach to have their contract extended after just their first full season. Do you recognise that?

AW: Yeah, I do. I’m very grateful. I said to them in the negotiations that over the next five years, not every year is going to be amazing. I hope they are. But I hope they see my real value when things aren’t going well, as opposed to when everything is rosy. They said that’s one of the reasons they signed me, they want to be in the trenches, just as what they do want me, when times are great.

DR: The Warriors 2023 season was remarkable. You were the fairytale story of the year. So how do you attack 2024? Is there one eye on the rear vision mirror and what made you successful, or is it the case that this is a new season, not much matters from 2023?

AW: I think heaps matters from last season. The results are one thing, but it’s more about what was important about our game? We’ll celebrate what we did very well, but our big emphasis is that we have to get miles better at what we’re really good at. What we were really good at, was to hold up under pressure and in the two finals games we lost against Penrith and Brisbane, we didn’t hold up under pressure. So we’re going after that from day one.

DR: You mentioned the finals losses against the Panthers and Broncos. Did you walk away thinking, if we add another layer we can become a premiership team? Or did you walk away feeling that the Warriors are still one rung below?

AW: No, I don’t think we’re a rung below. I’ve got heaps of respect for those two teams. And you can only prove where you stand by actually beating them and I’m super confident we can get there. I have so much belief in this team. If we come back with a great attitude and buy in like we did last year, I can see us with another 12-months of it, we can be amazing.

DR: Would there be one paramount statistic that you’d like to improve from 2023? Was there one stat that you saw in review that you thought, that definitely has to improve?

AW: Yeah, we were the third best defensive team and I think you need to be the best defensive team. That’s just the way it is. To go from last in defence to third best is an amazing feat. But it still doesn’t get it done. And we’re trying to get it done, so that’s where we need to get too.

DR: Shaun Johnson had a season that can be debated as his best year on record although he’s tweaked his ankle early this year. How confident are you, his form holds and so too his body, given that his calf flared up when it mattered most in the finals?

AW: He probably shouldn’t have played (in the preliminary final). It would have normally kept a player out for three or four weeks, but he wanted it so bad that he managed to play. I’ve got no doubt he can play just as well, if not better. The blokes around him will know what Shaun needs and wants even more so now. So long as Shaun comes back and wants to train like he did last pre-season, no doubt he can repeat it. Naturally, everyone will raise the bar for Shaun next season and they probably won’t think it looks as good. But if we win games and he has a huge impact on winning games, then he’s doing his job.’

DR: Is there absolute certainty that 2024 is his final season in the NRL?

AW: Everyone at the club and Shaun all know that if he wants to go around again and he’s playing good footy and there’s a spot for him, then we’ll go again. Our relationship is so good. When everyone was saying he was going to the Wests Tigers last year, I was always confident that if we sat down, which we did, it would work out. There’s no closing the door on it.

DR: Geez you’ve got some options at five-eighth. Who starts in round one?

AW: I’ve got three blokes fighting for one spot. It’s up to them. In no particular order Chanel Harris-Tavita, Te Mare Martin and Luke Metcalf will tell me who wants it by the way they train and build a combination with Shaun.

DR: So if he trains well, you would have no hesitation in starting Chanel in round one, even though he hasn’t played for one year?

AW: As I said, I’ll give every single one of them the best opportunity to start in round one. It doesn’t matter who they are. Chanel will be right in that discussion.

DR: The big comeback, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. How pumped are you to have him back?

AW: So pumped. He’s back training, he’s fit and looks amazing. Everyone is worried about him being too big from rugby union, but he’s looking great.

DR: He’s definitely playing centre?

AW: Definitely. We want the best team out there to win and Roger wanted that when we spoke to him.

DR: Addin Fonua-Blake’s future has been a major headline. How confident are you that he’s going to be all-in for 2024?

AW: If anything, I think he’s even more in. I’ve had some chats with him and I feel like he’s really keen to get some success and go out on a good note.

DR: The signing of Kurt Capewell is a major addition to the 2024 roster. What role will he play and what attributes can he bring to elevate the Warriors as a whole?

AW: He’ll play back row on either side of the field. He’s a smart footballer who competes on every play. He values the little things which will add to what we’re already doing. And what I like is his leadership around some of our younger players will really help develop our home grown talent.

DR: You speak of that younger talent, so lastly, give me a couple of blackbookers to keep an eye on. A couple of rising stars that you think we could see in the NRL next season?

AW: We’ve got some great kids. Demetric Sifakula played three games for us last year and will develop greatly from that. Big front-rower Zyon Maiu’u played every game in reserve grade last year and Jacob Laban, who is a big edge back-rower.
 
The Warriors were just one victory away from playing in the 2023 grand final.

Rookie head coach Andrew Webster sits down with DAVID RICCIO to discuss the club’s resurgence and how he will maintain standards in 2024, while also addressing several positional conundrums.

David Riccio: Webby, let’s start with you. The Warriors told me at the time their decision to re-sign you was the quickest negotiations the club have ever done. Was it just as easy for you?

Andrew Webster: I had another two years to go and if the club wanted to leave it as is, I would’ve waited. But I had no intention in letting another club come along and try to sign me. So they asked me, do I want to stay? And I told them, ‘you know I do’, so it happened real quick. I want to be at the Warriors for as long as I can.

DR: It still is an extraordinary feat for a coach to have their contract extended after just their first full season. Do you recognise that?

AW: Yeah, I do. I’m very grateful. I said to them in the negotiations that over the next five years, not every year is going to be amazing. I hope they are. But I hope they see my real value when things aren’t going well, as opposed to when everything is rosy. They said that’s one of the reasons they signed me, they want to be in the trenches, just as what they do want me, when times are great.

DR: The Warriors 2023 season was remarkable. You were the fairytale story of the year. So how do you attack 2024? Is there one eye on the rear vision mirror and what made you successful, or is it the case that this is a new season, not much matters from 2023?

AW: I think heaps matters from last season. The results are one thing, but it’s more about what was important about our game? We’ll celebrate what we did very well, but our big emphasis is that we have to get miles better at what we’re really good at. What we were really good at, was to hold up under pressure and in the two finals games we lost against Penrith and Brisbane, we didn’t hold up under pressure. So we’re going after that from day one.

DR: You mentioned the finals losses against the Panthers and Broncos. Did you walk away thinking, if we add another layer we can become a premiership team? Or did you walk away feeling that the Warriors are still one rung below?

AW: No, I don’t think we’re a rung below. I’ve got heaps of respect for those two teams. And you can only prove where you stand by actually beating them and I’m super confident we can get there. I have so much belief in this team. If we come back with a great attitude and buy in like we did last year, I can see us with another 12-months of it, we can be amazing.

DR: Would there be one paramount statistic that you’d like to improve from 2023? Was there one stat that you saw in review that you thought, that definitely has to improve?

AW: Yeah, we were the third best defensive team and I think you need to be the best defensive team. That’s just the way it is. To go from last in defence to third best is an amazing feat. But it still doesn’t get it done. And we’re trying to get it done, so that’s where we need to get too.

DR: Shaun Johnson had a season that can be debated as his best year on record although he’s tweaked his ankle early this year. How confident are you, his form holds and so too his body, given that his calf flared up when it mattered most in the finals?

AW: He probably shouldn’t have played (in the preliminary final). It would have normally kept a player out for three or four weeks, but he wanted it so bad that he managed to play. I’ve got no doubt he can play just as well, if not better. The blokes around him will know what Shaun needs and wants even more so now. So long as Shaun comes back and wants to train like he did last pre-season, no doubt he can repeat it. Naturally, everyone will raise the bar for Shaun next season and they probably won’t think it looks as good. But if we win games and he has a huge impact on winning games, then he’s doing his job.’

DR: Is there absolute certainty that 2024 is his final season in the NRL?

AW: Everyone at the club and Shaun all know that if he wants to go around again and he’s playing good footy and there’s a spot for him, then we’ll go again. Our relationship is so good. When everyone was saying he was going to the Wests Tigers last year, I was always confident that if we sat down, which we did, it would work out. There’s no closing the door on it.

DR: Geez you’ve got some options at five-eighth. Who starts in round one?

AW: I’ve got three blokes fighting for one spot. It’s up to them. In no particular order Chanel Harris-Tavita, Te Mare Martin and Luke Metcalf will tell me who wants it by the way they train and build a combination with Shaun.

DR: So if he trains well, you would have no hesitation in starting Chanel in round one, even though he hasn’t played for one year?

AW: As I said, I’ll give every single one of them the best opportunity to start in round one. It doesn’t matter who they are. Chanel will be right in that discussion.

DR: The big comeback, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. How pumped are you to have him back?

AW: So pumped. He’s back training, he’s fit and looks amazing. Everyone is worried about him being too big from rugby union, but he’s looking great.

DR: He’s definitely playing centre?

AW: Definitely. We want the best team out there to win and Roger wanted that when we spoke to him.

DR: Addin Fonua-Blake’s future has been a major headline. How confident are you that he’s going to be all-in for 2024?

AW: If anything, I think he’s even more in. I’ve had some chats with him and I feel like he’s really keen to get some success and go out on a good note.

DR: The signing of Kurt Capewell is a major addition to the 2024 roster. What role will he play and what attributes can he bring to elevate the Warriors as a whole?

AW: He’ll play back row on either side of the field. He’s a smart footballer who competes on every play. He values the little things which will add to what we’re already doing. And what I like is his leadership around some of our younger players will really help develop our home grown talent.

DR: You speak of that younger talent, so lastly, give me a couple of blackbookers to keep an eye on. A couple of rising stars that you think we could see in the NRL next season?

AW: We’ve got some great kids. Demetric Sifakula played three games for us last year and will develop greatly from that. Big front-rower Zyon Maiu’u played every game in reserve grade last year and Jacob Laban, who is a big edge back-rower.

I started following sports at eight years old and am now 51
Right now I rate Webster as the best coach I have come across in either
1) Cricket
2) Union
3) League
4) NHL

I have two university degrees including a masters degree, I work with PHDs in my team at work, He is smarter than anyone I have come across.
I don't know what we did to deserve him.
He was offered the Warriors head coach coach two years ago and he said he wasn't ready for the responsibility yet while Benji is now head coach after a one year apprenticeship. Webster if he was in Benji's shoes would have said no and sad it is coming too soon.
This article above just reinforces my opinion about him. He sounds like a mastermind.

Webster is the best asset the warriors have and not SJ or AFB.
 
Interesting that you say Ali is cocky, what gives you that impression? I see a guy that is confident in his abilities but haven't seen anything that screams cocky.

Let's eat!


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He is cocky bro. Sorry if my post about personal qualities came across as misleading in that I may have seemed to be critical of this personality type in a player.

I am not, when paired with a good skill base it is the best combination in sports.

Where did I get that from? Andrew Webster, then a couple of interviews with our fg players.

As a Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan, Tiger woods fan, I do not see cocky as a negative, especially in our young Polynesian players, Cocky is a strength not a weakness.

Cockiness in young brown boys is as much a sign of good parenting as is humility.

Too often kids get that cockiness beaten out of them.

Everything about Ali exudes a background of nurturing, support, and fostering self belief.

Our own Shaun Johnson was a cocky player and look at how that turned out.

Seriously the Warriors biggest problem is too many humble church boys and not enough swagger.
 
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These guys are all getting pretty big. Maiu’u obviously one of our middles going forward, would we be looking at Sifakula and TSS as other middles and Laban and Halasima as edges?
Halasima is going to be special if he can deal with the mental side of being a professional sportsman. I haven't seen a young Warriors forward with his combination of size, footwork, speed and sheer x factor since Sonny Fai, he just moves different than other players.
 
Halasima is going to be special if he can deal with the mental side of being a professional sportsman. I haven't seen a young Warriors forward with his combination of size, footwork, speed and sheer x factor since Sonny Fai, he just moves different than other players.
Damn straight! I didn’t want to make that direct comparison to Sonny Fai but damn there is a lot to like about him. When he steamrolled Isaac Lumelume it was like one of those holy shit moments. He is a talent!
 
I don't think the dogs will do much, I don't know about you guys but we have had and heard a lot of shit coach speak, and when I heard ciraldo last season he sounded like a guy with fuck all ideas?

They don't have it in the forwards either.
Apparently Ciraldo is the mastermind behind the Penrith defensive structures which are now also being implemented at the Warriors and Bulldogs as well as Penrith. I think he's probably very smart at the footy side but maybe not as charismatic or a people manager, though it could also just be their roster has pretty poor balance. Their forward pack leaves a lot to be desired and they looked pretty directionless when getting near the opposition try-line last season.

They did also beat Storm and Rabbitohs last year which is more than we managed, though would of been interesting how we went against the Bunnies in dry conditions.

I think if they go to what worked for them last year they could improve a lot. Ciraldo seems to be similar to what Brown was trying to do with us though where instead of coaching to a players strengths he's trying to coach what he wants which is where I think Webster is an absolute mastermind. Webby brings the best out in players by getting them to improve and play what they're good at rather than getting players to try be something they're not.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGyVDEDUPPo

Monty says Ali Leiataua been killing it in pre-season and RTS one of the fittest been working super hard too.

Good chat, Monty's invaluable to the club with the effort he puts in with the young pathways prospects as well, what a legend.
Robbo is the best Godfather we could have wished for as it turns out, wants to invest in another building for junior grades gym now, wow polar opposite of Watson's days of under investment.
 
Good chat, Monty's invaluable to the club with the effort he puts in with the young pathways prospects as well, what a legend.
Robbo is the best Godfather we could have wished for as it turns out, wants to invest in another building for junior grades gym now, wow polar opposite of Watson's days of under investment.
Yes well said.

Monty is a true legend, gets knockers for not being the best commentator, he tries hard but - gets a pass from me for all the good he does for the club.

Monty's once a Warrior show is tops.

Best owner we have seen by some distance and best CEO (rubbing ya noses in it Cam lynchers).

Hopefully Cam George and Mohawk maintain the chemistry they have, the club is bloody well run top down.

When you see how quickly CAM George directed the clubs response to the 2023 rise of the sport the Warriors capitalized on the mood of New Zealand and milked it for all it was worth.

I remember how the Warriors began, super hyped, no substance, money being thrown around, silly signings from Wigan, poor retention of juniors (Losing Wiki and Henry Paul in season one was the worst).

Wasted budget on blowing up cars on field, glass lying on the paddock coz cars have windows......when you think back to 1995....the hype was there (without the CEO Ian Robson turning it into a circus) and focusing on attention grabbers instead of on field results.

Today things are very different. Cameron George hires young people to run the game day experience - the young team gives the crowd the team song which becomes the most inspired hype creator for zero dollars spent.

The same team of young staff bring in the black out before the team runs out, and they aggressively go with the up the Wahs signage.

The club jumping on "this is our year" and selling T shirts just adds to a story of the CEO having hired the right people - supporting those creative staff - making rapid decisions - engaging with the mood of the supporter base - a real GO FOR IT attitude from the boss.

All this stuff is great, but the best signs coming out of the Warriors are the expansion of Junior football.

Rugby League is a dying sport in New Zealand, the best kids get taken by Aussie clubs and or Union teams.

And when you look at how the ones the Warriors grab are often strong and hard running, with poor micro skills (basically your typical Tom bowler stand out in a schools comp that bags tries and tops the tackle breaks - not too much pass the ball) there is only one solution - a bunch of first pick teens playing Aussies comps is the secret eh. We are giving the kids the elite coaching and more importantly a realistic Rugby league opportunity vs the Union machine.

If / when the Warriors make it, the NRL bosses will start eyeing a second NZ NRL franchise, which ultimately will be the saving of the sport over here (the Warriors alone cannot save Rugby league, you need more baskets to put your eggs in to save a sport, the Warriors however can open the door).

Thanks Robbo and Cam. Keep the wave rolling boys, love ya work...huge fan.
 
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'"Webby is very specific in a lot of the drills he does right down to the minor details with footwork and everything... It's been a bit different to what I'm used to, but it's great to get back into that sort of stuff."'

Is this another subtle dig at Kevvie's coaching prowess (following on from Cobbo's previous comment)? He did take the Broncos to a GF though - perhaps he could be a good man manager, but not so good on the technical side? If it was ever in doubt, there just seems to be more evidence by the day that we've definitely landed a good coach in Webby.

Capewell has already been a great advert for joining the club / moving to NZ - hopefully he can back it up on the field too!
 
I know what you mean Wrighty, but I suspect a man of your integrity would not quit being a Warriors fan - although you may not enjoy it as much. More likely, had they just won the Grand Final when you developed an interest, you would have picked another team to support and then stuck with them - although holding a secret place in your heart for the Warriors.
Our current coaches, staff and players are going to turn us into a powerhouse and I’m going to love every second of it.
 
Wow that’s a good crowd for a trial.
Thats more than u get at some nrl games.
What kind of crowds do the Auckland blues get these days?
Over 10000 tickets sold already.
I believe the stadium holds 17000. Having close to a sellout for a trial game is amazing.
 
Some takeouts from Webby on the radio. RTS has had a lot of learning about defending in the line. CHT playing for a halves spot or off the bench.

The club knew AFB had issues in Sydney in the middle of last season. He’s supposed to have had his best preseason and the club Webby is expecting him to play a huge role this season. Doesn’t sound like a Mahoney situation.
 
Alas, I think it will be a cold, snowy day in Hell before then...

The general support for the Warriors isn't "rusted on" enough, as they like to say in Aussie, to make a second NRL team viable.

Just watch as soon as the boys lose their first regular season game...

On top of which, how many non-Auckland Warriors fans would jump ship as soon as the non-Auckland NRL team is announced? That's not growing a crowd, it's cannibalizing it or at best just moving it around...

I couldn't disagree more.

This country comfortably supports 5 super rugby teams, all of whom have won Super rugby in the last decade.

A second team would also force Sky to pay more for the broadcast rights, a major part of the decision making criteria from NRL.

A second NRL team in NZ would be the biggest threat to Rugby, and the biggest boom to the kiwis - doubling the catchment area of junior talent to stay in NZ.

You would also get two derbys each year which I think would very quickly become two of the biggest games in the sporting calendar.

Anyone that attended those Blues V Crusaders games at Eden Park in the early 2000s will know what I'm talking about.
 
FYI have moved 36 pages from this thread to its own Tigers trial game thread so it has its own stand alone thread thats easy to find. We'll do the same for the Dolphins game too. Tigers thread has team list and full game in the first post. This thread will remain our 2024 preseason thread as is customary...

 
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