He feels poorly advised. But then also tbh it’s not him that’s said much, and Fonzie on the TWL pod is right that he has been messed around a bit at other clubs, so can kind of get it if he’s 27 and hasn’t ever managed to really start his career and he’s back out of the team. I think we can give the bloke the benefit of the doubt as a human and move on
General The Boyd vs Metcalf debate
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Huge metcalf fan myself as i love that "hunger" he shows within a game when on the feild last year. But i don't really get why people would want him to "fight" for his role in NSW grade or want him at six. Or that he even should be playing in NSW cup right now as some kind of vindication (blocking Jett from improving there).
1. I weirdly think he was a lot better at 7 than he ever was at 6. CHT has been light years better at 6 reguardless (defense, left foot boot, connection on that side). If CHT is a option he should not be getting that spot.
2. fighting it out in NSW grade would mean we'd have 900k just sitting there in reserve when we have areas we could upgrade on.
3. Making him play in NSW grade blocks out a player who the warriors want to keep. And stops him from moving on quicker. If we want injury cover for 7 then we still have TMM this year.
Surely him walking out is by far the best case for the warriors. And the sooner the better so we can use the money to negatiate with now to players off contract. I.E Averillo as a center/winger, Ray stone/Jolliffe/ as a barney replacement, Watson, etc.
Although emotionaly it would be more satisfying to have him play in NSW grade, or grind it out. Just moving him on quickly IMO is just so much better for the club's future.
1. I weirdly think he was a lot better at 7 than he ever was at 6. CHT has been light years better at 6 reguardless (defense, left foot boot, connection on that side). If CHT is a option he should not be getting that spot.
2. fighting it out in NSW grade would mean we'd have 900k just sitting there in reserve when we have areas we could upgrade on.
3. Making him play in NSW grade blocks out a player who the warriors want to keep. And stops him from moving on quicker. If we want injury cover for 7 then we still have TMM this year.
Surely him walking out is by far the best case for the warriors. And the sooner the better so we can use the money to negatiate with now to players off contract. I.E Averillo as a center/winger, Ray stone/Jolliffe/ as a barney replacement, Watson, etc.
Although emotionaly it would be more satisfying to have him play in NSW grade, or grind it out. Just moving him on quickly IMO is just so much better for the club's future.
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If you were one of the very, very few who, last year, warned against giving him a big contract upgrade because he is injury prone, then I’ll give you a gold medal.
On a screen image only, though, I’m a bit short at the moment.
Been said a lot, but my issue is the way he went about it all.
Had he handled this better we wouldn't even know about it.
He had options. That is what grates with most people I would suggest.
He told me he hoped after bye round, must have needed a few extra weeks.
The clubs chasing will be a fun discussion
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I was in favour rather than sitting on the bench doing nothing
But Now.
NSW cup benefits no one.
He needs to find a new club and get on with his life
I’m aligned to this. Not much value in him playing cup and we want the likes of Hanson, Cleary, Thompson getting experience in cup. I also don’t think people quite realise how much different a 6 and a 7 in nrl gets paid. And metcalf is 27 and making up for lost time in his short career, I do get the desire to be the 7 and earn a packet
And yeah my mind went straight to TMM also, does he get another random one year extension if he’s happy in Auckland and would ideally rather stay than move his family to the north of England
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I can’t help but not enjoy this whole situation, but somehow feel it will be the best for all parties.
I had the pleasure of meeting Luke and chatting to him for some time at the Canberra game before his comeback and he was an approachable, affable young guy who clearly was passionate about playing footie. He clearly has big dreams, which I admired, but clearly that was only to play 7 and drive a team around the park. I don’t begrudge him for wanting to chase that dream if that’s the case. No hate on the guy from me. I had just really hoped he would be that guy for us, even though I often had my doubts about his ability as a true 7. He clearly loved it here and seemed to have a tight bond with many players, so am hoping it doesn’t rock the ship too much. Can only wish the guy the best.
On Boyd, I really admire the guys approach and work ethic to just knuckle down and nail this opportunity. When he signed I was hopeful he would kick on with us to reach his potential after recalling him in the AUS schoolboys jersey that tore the Jnr Kiwis up able ago. He 100% has my support now, and imo is a true 7 that suits our style of play currently.
Chitty - I think his form also threw a spanner in the works for LM. As it shows when LM got game time at 6 how important a strong defensive 6 is. Will be interested to see his next move.
The Club - I wouldn’t be surprised if Robbo has had some significant involvement here as well. Just comes across as the type of guy who doesn’t fk about when something is having a negative influence on culture.
Professional sport can be a ruthless business sometimes.
I had the pleasure of meeting Luke and chatting to him for some time at the Canberra game before his comeback and he was an approachable, affable young guy who clearly was passionate about playing footie. He clearly has big dreams, which I admired, but clearly that was only to play 7 and drive a team around the park. I don’t begrudge him for wanting to chase that dream if that’s the case. No hate on the guy from me. I had just really hoped he would be that guy for us, even though I often had my doubts about his ability as a true 7. He clearly loved it here and seemed to have a tight bond with many players, so am hoping it doesn’t rock the ship too much. Can only wish the guy the best.
On Boyd, I really admire the guys approach and work ethic to just knuckle down and nail this opportunity. When he signed I was hopeful he would kick on with us to reach his potential after recalling him in the AUS schoolboys jersey that tore the Jnr Kiwis up able ago. He 100% has my support now, and imo is a true 7 that suits our style of play currently.
Chitty - I think his form also threw a spanner in the works for LM. As it shows when LM got game time at 6 how important a strong defensive 6 is. Will be interested to see his next move.
The Club - I wouldn’t be surprised if Robbo has had some significant involvement here as well. Just comes across as the type of guy who doesn’t fk about when something is having a negative influence on culture.
Professional sport can be a ruthless business sometimes.
Yeah but pay difference isn't an issue in this case? Metcalf is the highest paid back at the club whatever happens.
Yeah I’m more happy to give benefit of the doubt and blame the agent. NRL players aren’t always the highest IQ bunch, and they pay agents to look out for them, I can see how he was told this is the best path forward and agreed to it as it’s not his area of expertise
NSW Cup benefits us hugely. He is not on 900k this year, he is on far less and he is our FG quality depth if we have an injury. We want him match fit and confident because dollars to donuts he will be used if available this year. The best scenario is him fronting up with a great attitude for the club that has backed him. Hopefully he can find a gig for next year promptly so it is off his mind, but I think it is short-sighted to be eager to part ways in 2026.
This all rests on his maturity really.
Then what did we do with those keys?
Yeah but he only gets 2 years more of that deal. He’s not getting $900k here or elsewhere as a 6 if he isn’t a Munster style one sided playmaker
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Gave them to the valet who, as it turns out, can do a pretty mean burnout.
You give him way too much credit imo.
He knew this playbook from the SJ toy throwing incident, this is spookily similar.
Also he is not some grunt middle forward, he is a self proclaimed student of the game. Certainly he is intelligent, there is no doubt about that and I think he is very savvy as well, this is playing out exactly how he wanted imo.
Look at all the insights us mere plebs have thrown up in this scenario, and we are outsiders, mere fans, this guy understands the internal workings of the machine.
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