NRL Potential Rookie Draft in the NRL

[MrFrankWhite]

They aren't acting like that. Bit of a false equivalence argument there isn't it? What they are saying is being forced to move for that amount isn't comparable to American sports like the NBA who have a draft where rookies get significantly more, millions more.

And? People relocate for different sized pay cheques all the time. Indoor Lacrosse League had college draft since the 90s.. The NBA introduced the draft in 1947. Athletes were paid on avg $4000-5000pa. The equivalent to $56k today.

The entire argument "people wont relocate for less than millions" so is demonstrably false, its borderline retarded. For the love of god, just say you hate the idea, or you dont want to lose talent, or you think it will hurt your favorite team.

 

[Falcon]

So American high school and college sports arent a big thing?

They are, but no college team are affiliated with an NFL team. NFL dudes have a first squad only.
College football is an entity in its self. No draft here either other than trawling High School football for players with scholarship offerings.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

They are, but no college team are affiliated with an NFL team. NFL dudes have a first squad only.
College football is an entity in its self. No draft here either other than trawling High School football for players with scholarship offerings.

Exactly. And who invests in training and pathways? The colleges. Not NFL teams. Also colleges ARE affiliated, but the affiliations are through staff.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I don’t think it’s registering at all with this dude.

No, I just think the line of thinking is retarded and demonstrably false.

 

[Inruin]

And? People relocate for different sized pay cheques all the time.

Yes they choose to do so. Saying a draft will work because of this is nonsense.

Indoor Lacrosse League had college draft since the 90s.. The NBA introduced the draft in 1947. Athletes were paid on avg $4000-5000pa. The equivalent to $56k today.

Newsflash. It's not 1947.

The entire argument "people wont relocate for less than millions" so is demonstrably false, its borderline retarded.

That isnt the argument being made. The argument being made is that one of the reasons the draft works in terms of players accepting moving cities is in the NBA the monetary reward is significant. $80k in the NRL isn't.

For the love of god, just say you hate the idea, or you dont want to lose talent, or you think it will hurt your favorite team.

I have said I don't like the idea and the reasons why. I still don't know what you're reasons are for why you are in favour of having a draft considering the given reason for having one is to even up the competition yet that hasn't been proven to be the case in sports that do have the draft

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Yes they choose to do so. Saying a draft will work because of this is nonsense.

Im not saying the draft will work. Im saying your argument against is incredibly flawed.

Newsflash. It's not 1947.
That isnt the argument being made. The argument being made is that one of the reasons the draft works in terms of players accepting moving cities is in the NBA the monetary reward is significant. $80k in the NRL isn't.

So then why are you circlejerking off about what year it is? People accepted a draft for much less as I've demonstrated, but you'll then immediately shift the arguments to time periods.

I have said I don't like the idea and the reasons why. I still don't know what you're reasons are for why you are in favour of having a draft considering the given reason for having one is to even up the competition yet that hasn't been proven to be the case in sports that do have the draft

My reasons is that would force the NRL to develop the university model which I think is great for the game as a whole.

 

[hornbybrown]

So many reasons why this is a bad idea, including forcing kids to leave their country. A kid from the Warriors system in Invercargill ( yes they have a junior system in the bottom of the South Island l) could be forced to move to PNG.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

So many reasons why this is a bad idea, including forcing kids to leave their country. A kid from the Warriors system in Invercargill ( yes they have a junior system in the bottom of the South Island l) could be forced to move to PNG.

Forced? VLandys is conscripting people to play? No, its a condition of your employment, should you CHOOSE to pursue it.

 

[hornbybrown]

Forced? VLandys is conscripting people to play? No, its a condition of your employment, should you CHOOSE to pursue it.

That would be a restraint of trade to tell someone they can only play the game at a professional level if they go to PNG and if it’s your dream you are definitely being forced to do it.

 

[Inruin]

Im not saying the draft will work. Im saying your argument against is incredibly flawed.

So then why are you circlejerking off about what year it is? People accepted a draft for much less as I've demonstrated, but you'll then immediately shift the arguments to time periods.

My reasons is that would force the NRL to develop the university model which I think is great for the game as a whole.

Lol, so the draft won't work?

My argument against the draft is very simple. The purpose is supposed to be to even out the competition. It has been shown that competitions with a draft don't appear to be evened out by one and in fact encourages teams to tank further at the end of the season in order to get better draft picks. Currently there isn't a system set up in Australia to support a college type development one like in the US and to do so would cost 100's of millions of dollars, not to mention the transition pain. And given it won't address the problem that is trying to be solved, it isn't worth it. My logic seems quite sound.

As for circle jerking about what year it is, you bought up 1947. I was merely trying to say,and you may be unaware of this, a lot has changed in the last 77 years.

 

[Dantheman]

I don’t think it’s registering at all with this dude.

Par for the course .

 

[MrFrankWhite]

ork?

My argument against the draft is very simple. The purpose is supposed to be to even out the competition. It has been shown that competitions with a draft don't appear to be evened out by one and in fact encourages teams to tank further at the end of the season in order to get better draft picks. Currently there isn't a system set up in Australia to support a college type development one like in the US and to do so would cost 100's of millions of dollars, not to mention the transition pain. And given it won't address the problem that is trying to be solved, it isn't worth it. My logic seems quite sound.

I can’t disagree with that logic at all. You very well might be right.

As I said, I think it would force the NRL in building said college type system which I think would be much better than say the AFL trying to do the same.

Yes lots changed in 77 years. NFL / NBA introduced a drafts and grew into multi billion dollar empires. I’m merely suggesting that perhaps the way to do that has already been mapped out.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

That would be a restraint of trade to tell someone they can only play the game at a professional level if they go to PNG and if it’s your dream you are definitely being forced to do it.

Its literally not, as decided in the US and as advised by NRL's lawyers, and evidence by the AFL draft. As long as we are talking about a rooking draft and not an internal player draft.

Why an NRL player draft could benefit lawyers more than the league

Any attempt by the governing body to introduce an internal draft without the players’ backing would appear to be a non-starter, if previous cases are any guide.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

 

[hornbybrown]

Its literally not, as decided in the US and as advised by NRL's lawyers, and evidence by the AFL draft. As long as we are talking about a rooking draft and not an internal player draft.

Why an NRL player draft could benefit lawyers more than the league

Any attempt by the governing body to introduce an internal draft without the players’ backing would appear to be a non-starter, if previous cases are any guide.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

None of those involve moving countries and hasn’t been tested in court yet

 

[MrFrankWhite]

None of those involve moving countries and hasn’t been tested in court yet

Will the PNG team be required to live in PNG?