General Centres for 2025

[Inruin]

I'm a little torn with this thread. On the one hand I think Ali and Berry are our best options at centre but that means CNK is fullback and I really want more games with Taine there.

Ali is a lock in for left center for me.

Either Berry or CNK at right centre is a good option.

The real question becomes is TT at fullback with CNK center better or worse than CNK at fullback and Berry at center.

I'm leaning to TT at fullback with CNK at right center.

 

[Ref]

I'm a little torn with this thread. On the one hand I think Ali and Berry are our best options at centre but that means CNK is fullback and I really want more games with Taine there.

Ali is a lock in for left center for me.

Either Berry or CNK at right centre is a good option.

The real question becomes is TT at fullback with CNK center better or worse than CNK at fullback and Berry at center.

I'm leaning to TT at fullback with CNK at right center.

TT for me has been our best fullback this year.
So it’s Ali, Berry,CNK, Pompey and MGT fighting for centre.
There is bias towards recent games when doing these polls.
So Berry becomes a forgotten man and we all remember Ali and CNK v Sharks.
Pompey was our best back recently in a losing streak.
MGT was in plenty of 2025 forum teams not so long ago.
We are not badly off at centre.

 

[Wrighty]

No votes for RTS at centre. While we may all disagree on CNK vs Ali vs Pompey vs Berry we have all put a line through one player which is something you rarely see on a sports forum.

 

[Wrighty]

I am going to have a stats dive on those top 4 contenders. Be back shortly.

 

[Ref]

No votes for RTS at centre. While we may all disagree on CNK vs Ali vs Pompey vs Berry we have all put a line through one player which is something you rarely see on a sports forum.

His defence there has been below par.
I don’t think he can master the position defensively.
Skinny him up a bit for next year and he can be a wing contender or 2nd or 3rd full back option.

 

[Wrighty]

Name	G	T	TA	R	RM	Avg Metres	LB	TB	Try Contributions	Line Break Assists	TCK	MT	Tackle Efficiency	ERR	PEN	Try Cause
253A. Pompey(WAR)	14	2	1	130	1,032	74	2	28	0	2	127	20	86.3945578	7	3	7
288R. Berry(WAR)	12	4	1	91	798	67	3	24	1	2	238	19	92.6070039	3	9	6
375A. Leiataua(WAR)	6	3	0	74	706	118	6	25	2	0	65	14	82.278481	2	1	5

CNK excluded for only having one game to analyse at centre.

 

[Warriorsfan92]

I am going to have a stats dive on those top 4 contenders. Be back shortly.

Statistically RTS has been one of the best in the comp. It may not seem it, but he averages high metres & doesnt actually miss that many tackles. This may seem laughable to some on this forum but the stats are there.

 

[JaggedJ]

Berry and Ali for me.

Not considering CNK because I don't believe Webster will consider it either.

RTS for wing. He's a ball runner not a ball player so wing is better suited to him than centre.

 

[Warriorsfan92]

I’d have Crichton, farnworth, Manu, & gagai as the form centres in the comp.

Crichton T-0.5 TA-0.4 LB-0.5, LBA-0.6, 11 tackles, 2 tackle breaks, 2 missed, 0.8 errors, 120m

Farnworth T-0.4, TA-0.4, LB-0.5, LBA-0.5, 13 tackles, 5 tackle breaks, 2 missed, 0.6 errors, 160m

Manu T-0.5, TA-0.4, LB-0.5, LBA-0.7, 15 tackles, 5 tackle breaks, 3 missed, 1.2 errors, 130m

Gagai T-0.4, TA-0.3, LB-0.8, LBA-0.3, 19 tackles, 6 tackle breaks, 4 missed, 0.8 errors, 150m

RTS T-0.2 TA-0.2, LB-0.2, LBA-0.2, 12 tackles, 4 tackle breaks, 2 missed, 0.9 errors, 160m

Tries manu, gagai, farnworth,
Crichton, RTS
Try assists Manu Gagai farnworth Crichton RTS
Linebreaks gagai Manu farnworth Crichton RTS
Linebreak assists Manu. Crichton farnworth gagai rts
Tackles gagai Manu farnworth RTS Crichton
Tackles breaks gagai Manu farnworth RTS Crichton
Missed tackles (most to least) gagai Manu Crichton farnworth rts
Errors (most to least) Manu rts gagai Crichton farnworth
Metres RTS farnworth gagai Manu Crichton

RTS is clearly the worst of this bunch, but for all the shit he gets for being ‘useless’ isn’t accurate. The players I mentioned are all playing for top 8 sides or right on the 8, in better attacking sides. Statistically RTS runs for the most metres and misses the least amount of tackles (in a team that is losing more games than winning). It’s his attacking that has let him down, but to be fair most in the warriors have been abysmal in this category.

The comps leading teams centres:

Tago T-0.4, TA-0.3, LB-0.6, LBA-0.5, 17 tackles, 2 tackle breaks, 3 missed, 1.2errors, 130m

Meaney T-0.3, TA-0.1, LB-0.4, LBA-0.3, 17 tackles, 6 tackle breaks, 4 missed, 0.8 errors, 100m

Just for a comparison.

 

[Inruin]

I’d have Crichton, farnworth, Manu, & gagai as the form centres in the comp.

Crichton T-0.5 TA-0.4 LB-0.5, LBA-0.6, 11 tackles, 2 tackle breaks, 2 missed, 0.8 errors, 120m

Farnworth T-0.4, TA-0.4, LB-0.5, LBA-0.5, 13 tackles, 5 tackle breaks, 2 missed, 0.6 errors, 160m

Manu T-0.5, TA-0.4, LB-0.5, LBA-0.7, 15 tackles, 5 tackle breaks, 3 missed, 1.2 errors, 130m

Gagai T-0.4, TA-0.3, LB-0.8, LBA-0.3, 19 tackles, 6 tackle breaks, 4 missed, 0.8 errors, 150m

RTS T-0.2 TA-0.2, LB-0.2, LBA-0.2, 12 tackles, 4 tackle breaks, 2 missed, 0.9 errors, 160m

Tries manu, gagai, farnworth,
Crichton, RTS
Try assists Manu Gagai farnworth Crichton RTS
Linebreaks gagai Manu farnworth Crichton RTS
Linebreak assists Manu. Crichton farnworth gagai rts
Tackles gagai Manu farnworth RTS Crichton
Tackles breaks gagai Manu farnworth RTS Crichton
Missed tackles gagai Manu Crichton farnworth rts
Errors Manu rts gagai Crichton farnworth
Metres RTS farnworth gagai Manu Crichton

RTS is clearly the worst of this bunch, but for all the shit he gets for being ‘useless’ isn’t accurate. The players I mentioned are all playing for top 8 sides or right on the 8, in better attacking sides. Statistically RTS runs for the most metres and misses the least amount of tackles (in a team that is losing more games than winning). It’s his attacking that has let him down, but to be fair most in the warriors have been abysmal in this category.

The comps leading teams centres:

Tago T-0.4, TA-0.3, LB-0.6, LBA-0.5, 17 tackles, 2 tackle breaks, 3 missed, 1.2errors, 130m

Meaney T-0.3, TA-0.1, LB-0.4, LBA-0.3, 17 tackles, 6 tackle breaks, 4 missed, 0.8 errors, 100m

Just for a comparison.

Is that RTS's stats just at center or all positions this year?

 

[Warriorsfan92]

Name	G	T	TA	R	RM	Avg Metres	LB	TB	Try Contributions	Line Break Assists	TCK	MT	Tackle Efficiency	ERR	PEN	Try Cause
253A. Pompey(WAR)	14	2	1	130	1,032	74	2	28	0	2	127	20	86.3945578	7	3	7
288R. Berry(WAR)	12	4	1	91	798	67	3	24	1	2	238	19	92.6070039	3	9	6
375A. Leiataua(WAR)	6	3	0	74	706	118	6	25	2	0	65	14	82.278481	2	1	5

CNK excluded for only having one game to analyse at centre.

Chuck RTS in there & do averages imo. Ali had played way less games.

 

[Warriorsfan92]

Is that RTS's stats just at center or all positions this year?

Centre only.

 

[Warriorsfan92]

Is that RTS's stats just at center or all positions this year?

Roger

Centre: (13 games)
T-0.2 TA-0.2, LB-0.2, LBA-0.2, 12 tackles, 4 tackle breaks, 2 missed, 0.9 errors, 160m

Wing: (3 games)
T-1.0 TA-0, LB-1.0, LBA-0, 8 tackles, 4 tackle breaks, 0.7 missed, 1.0 errors, 190m

More tries, more line breaks, less missed tackles, more metres playing on the wing.

 

[Worried2Death]

Roger

Centre: (13 games)
T-0.2 TA-0.2, LB-0.2, LBA-0.2, 12 tackles, 4 tackle breaks, 2 missed, 0.9 errors, 160m

Wing: (3 games)
T-1.0 TA-0, LB-1.0, LBA-0, 8 tackles, 4 tackle breaks, 0.7 missed, 1.0 errors, 190m

More tries, more line breaks, less missed tackles, more metres playing on the wing.

This is an eye opener, can you do Montoya's stats for a wing comparison

 

[Dannevegas]

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What’s webby done to him lol.

That a lot of us here are thinking we’re better off without him.
Still has a lot to offer I think, probably not at centre tho

 

[run_it_str8_again]

It really doesn't matter who. It matters that we have everyone available and all on the same page about game plans, roles, defensive structures and assignments and attack shapes and roles. There's two of my cents

 

[watcher]

We have good contenders for Centre. What are the criteria for selection. For me that is defensive ability first. For me Berry and Pompey are best defenders. Followed by RTS and CNK. For me Ali and MGT need to step up in this regard. No doubting their attacking prowess but that is only half the game.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

We have good contenders for Centre. What are the criteria for selection. For me that is defensive ability first.

Defence first? What if you let in 0.5 tries a game but score 1 try a game?

Slightly down on defence but huge game changing upside in attack?

 

[Warriorsfan92]

This is an eye opener, can you do Montoya's stats for a wing comparison

It’s tricky because it’s only a small game sample from RTS, so the data isn’t reliable but it’s all we have to go off.

Rts Wing: (3 games)
T-1.0 TA-0, LB-1.0, LBA-0, 8 tackles, 4 tackle breaks, 0.7 missed, 1.0 errors, 190m

Montoya (19 games)
T-0.4 TA-0.1 LB-0.6, LBA-0, 4 tackles, 3 tackle breaks, 1 missed, 1.1 errors, 126m

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

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Do you want me to post Laurie Daley’s highlights package - it’s pretty good & about as relevant going forward as RTS’s