Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[MrFrankWhite]

Its possible now due to the supreme court ruling last week - the president now basically has the power of a pre-Cromwell English king.

This is such a rubbish take.

Pray tell, when has any NZ or Australian Prime Minister ever been legally held responsible for illegal acts on their behalf?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Helen Clark authorized NZ's participation in the illegal invasion of Iraq. Over 1 million civilians died.

Do you see her name on the ICC docket?

 

[Lord Gnome of Waiheke]

That’s a fucking disgusting thing to say, wishing death on anyone is never ok, regardless of political views. Shame on you

I save my pity for the kids in Gaza and the Ukraine thanks.

 

[Lord Gnome of Waiheke]

This is such a rubbish take.

Pray tell, when has any NZ or Australian Prime Minister ever been legally held responsible for illegal acts on their behalf?

Its the take of two of the supreme court judges.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Its the take of two of the supreme court judges.

Its not actually, because you haven't read it or a succinct summary.

No leader is normally found liable for illegal activities. If you think that's wrong then show the legal guidance or case law.

 

[Beastmode]

I save my pity for the kids in Gaza and the Ukraine thanks.

Save it tonight for your football team

It ain’t coming home.

 

[hornbybrown]

ahh okay. Thats long answer. But basically 1 team plays security and plans out all defence which should be out to 1km.

2nd team plans offence and acts out the assassin role to find any loopholes etc. This happens prior.

That level of protection only applies to the current president. Former presidents get a greatly reduced protection detail. Trump isn’t even officially the republicans nominee yet. Once he becomes their nominee his SS detail increases but still not to the level of the current president.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

That level of protection only applies to the current president. Former presidents get a greatly reduced protection detail. Trump isn’t even officially the republicans nominee yet. Once he becomes their nominee his SS detail increases but still not to the level of the current president.

Under 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7), "[m]ajor Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates," as identified by the Secretary of Homeland Security, are eligible for Secret Service protection.

Title 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7) authorizes the U.S. Secret Service to provide protection for major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates:

• Protection is authorized by the DHS Secretary after consultation with the Congressional Advisory Committee;
• The Congressional Advisory Committee includes: Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, and one additional member selected by the others;
• Protection under these guidelines should only be granted within one year prior to the general election. Protection more than one year prior to the general election should only be granted in extraordinary, case by case circumstances in consultation with the committee, based on threat assessment and other factors.

Criteria have been established to assist the DHS Secretary and the advisory committee in their decision making (as of 2017).

When determining whether a candidate for the Office of President or Vice President of the United States qualifies as a major candidate, the Secretary has broad discretion and may consider a variety of factors. These factors include, but are not limited to:

1. Whether the candidate has publicly announced his or her candidacy and has filed the appropriate documentation with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and is in compliance with the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended, and related laws;
2. Whether the candidate is actively campaigning on a national basis for the office for which his or her candidacy has been announced, as demonstrated by operating a national campaign apparatus, regularly appearing at public events in multiple states, producing and publishing campaign advertisements, and other similar indicia of a campaign;
3. A threat assessment conducted by the Secret Service of general or specific threats directed towards the candidate (for these purposes, “threats” should be defined as explicit threats of bodily harm to the candidate or indications of inappropriate behavior towards the candidate suggesting potential bodily harm);
4. Whether, during and within an active and competitive major party primary, the most recent average of established national polls, as reflected by the Real Clear Politics National Average or similar mechanism, the candidate is polling at 15% or more for 30 consecutive days;
5. Whether the candidate is the formal or de facto nominee of a major party for President or Vice President;
6. Whether the candidate is an independent or third-party candidate for President polling at 20% or more of the Real Clear Politics National Average for 30 consecutive days;
7. Whether the candidate is the Vice Presidential running mate of the above independent or third-party candidate.

Title 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7) states that the U.S. Secret Service is also authorized to protect spouses of major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, as identified by the DHS Secretary, within 120 days of the general Presidential election. Some candidates have received protection earlier in the campaign pursuant to Presidential memoranda.

 

[juju]

You reckon America might grapple with the gun control issue now... or nah?

Nah...

 

[Wah's Up]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL3D0h5j0Lo

 

[Shogun]

That’s a fucking disgusting thing to say, wishing death on anyone is never ok, regardless of political views. Shame on you

"on anyone"

I want Putin captured, tried & put to death, like Saddam, should I be ashamed of myself?

 

[hornbybrown]

Under 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7), "[m]ajor Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates," as identified by the Secretary of Homeland Security, are eligible for Secret Service protection.

Title 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7) authorizes the U.S. Secret Service to provide protection for major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates:

• Protection is authorized by the DHS Secretary after consultation with the Congressional Advisory Committee;
• The Congressional Advisory Committee includes: Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, and one additional member selected by the others;
• Protection under these guidelines should only be granted within one year prior to the general election. Protection more than one year prior to the general election should only be granted in extraordinary, case by case circumstances in consultation with the committee, based on threat assessment and other factors.

Criteria have been established to assist the DHS Secretary and the advisory committee in their decision making (as of 2017).

When determining whether a candidate for the Office of President or Vice President of the United States qualifies as a major candidate, the Secretary has broad discretion and may consider a variety of factors. These factors include, but are not limited to:

1. Whether the candidate has publicly announced his or her candidacy and has filed the appropriate documentation with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and is in compliance with the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended, and related laws;
2. Whether the candidate is actively campaigning on a national basis for the office for which his or her candidacy has been announced, as demonstrated by operating a national campaign apparatus, regularly appearing at public events in multiple states, producing and publishing campaign advertisements, and other similar indicia of a campaign;
3. A threat assessment conducted by the Secret Service of general or specific threats directed towards the candidate (for these purposes, “threats” should be defined as explicit threats of bodily harm to the candidate or indications of inappropriate behavior towards the candidate suggesting potential bodily harm);
4. Whether, during and within an active and competitive major party primary, the most recent average of established national polls, as reflected by the Real Clear Politics National Average or similar mechanism, the candidate is polling at 15% or more for 30 consecutive days;
5. Whether the candidate is the formal or de facto nominee of a major party for President or Vice President;
6. Whether the candidate is an independent or third-party candidate for President polling at 20% or more of the Real Clear Politics National Average for 30 consecutive days;
7. Whether the candidate is the Vice Presidential running mate of the above independent or third-party candidate.

Title 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7) states that the U.S. Secret Service is also authorized to protect spouses of major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, as identified by the DHS Secretary, within 120 days of the general Presidential election. Some candidates have received protection earlier in the campaign pursuant to Presidential memoranda.

Within one year. So at some stage in the year before the election for the candidate. He isn’t officially that yet. Also that level of protection isn’t the same as the current president.
Although that should probably be looked at for the rest of this election period

 

[MrFrankWhite]

"on anyone"

I want Putin captured, tried & put to death, like Saddam, should I be ashamed of myself?

Yes but not for the reasons you think

 

[Matiunz]

How did US get itself in a position where these are their 2 choices? Not a fan of either but it’s clear Biden isn’t there mentally and his Putin gaff should really be the final nail. Trump is pretty much getting a free ride at this stage, whatever this nutcase was trying to do with the “alleged” assassinate attempt has likely done the opposite. There’s NEVER an excuse for that not matter whatever side you are on

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Within one year. So at some stage in the year before the election for the candidate. He isn’t officially that yet. Also that level of protection isn’t the same as the current president.
Although that should probably be looked at for the rest of this election period

You clearly didn't read para 1.

1. Whether the candidate has publicly announced his or her candidacy and has filed the appropriate documentation with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and is in compliance with the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended, and related laws;

No where does it state that ONLY the GOP and DNC nominees get protection. There are increasing calls for RFK to get a detail and he wont be the nominee.

And finally; The Republican Party will select its presidential nominee at the 2024 Republican National Convention, which will take place in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, from July 15-18, 2024..

 

[hornbybrown]

You clearly didn't read para 1.

1. Whether the candidate has publicly announced his or her candidacy and has filed the appropriate documentation with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and is in compliance with the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended, and related laws;

No where does it state that ONLY the GOP and DNC nominees get protection. There are increasing calls for RFK to get a detail and he wont be the nominee.

And finally; The Republican Party will select its presidential nominee at the 2024 Republican National Convention, which will take place in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, from July 15-18, 2024..

We are not evening arguing the same point. He has had a protective detail the last four years as a former president. My point is that the level of protection is not the same for a former president as it is for the current.
Hell Jimmy Carter has no SS detail as he requested it was stopped. Bush, Clinton and Obama are not being protected at the level Biden is. That is the normal way of how they do it.

 

[Beastmode]

Not comfortable about them naming the shooter and giving him screen time.
He will be glorified or hated by many, and the most searched name on the internet.
Copy cats will see this and follow....

 

[watcher]

The Boden Admon in their 'Lawfare' policies against their opponents have denied Secret Service cover for RFK Jr, which when you consider the Kennedy history, is a terrible decision.

THe Secret Service core role throughout history has been to investigate counterfeiting but personal protection is Presidential and candidate protection. The Stae Department has their own protection detail. I have worked with and been on the piss with Agents of both.

I hate to saythis but I prefer Trump over Biden. How many wars had Trump start? Biden is the puppet of military ondustrial complex. Surely they can find 2 better condidates.

 

[Shogun]

The Donald disagreed not letting armed people at his Jan 6 rally... how you feel now b!7ch?

 

[PullingTeets]

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