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[MaybeTop8]

Let's not forget Casey Costello was a recent Chair of the taxpayers union, only to step down and stand for NZ First, and corruption through Tobacco lobbying

The taxpayers union are not actually a union but an ACT affiliated hard right lobby group with ties to Atlas.

Casey Costello on being a part of the Taxpayers' Union and standing for Parliament

Championing Value For Money From Every Tax Dollar

www.taxpayers.org.nz

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

To provide some much needed context missing from your post Wiz

The graphic is a comparison of the coalition's last two budgets. Nothing else.

The headline of the article you have taken this from, with no link provided is this:

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Here's the top few paragraphs, highlighting quite clearly this is a hard right neoliberal budget.

Of the rich, by the rich, for the rich.

Thomas Coughlan: Why Govt's hard tack right in Budget is a challenge for Labour

OPINION: The Government shows its colours – and why Labour is in trouble.

www.nzherald.co.nz

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Prioritising welfare, health, education, environment and law and order is hard right, neoliberal, by the rich and for the rich?

If that’s the case I’m all in!

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

To provide some much needed context missing from your post Wiz

The graphic is a comparison of the coalition's last two budgets. Nothing else.

The headline of the article you have taken this from, with no link provided is this:

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Here's the top few paragraphs, highlighting quite clearly this is a hard right neoliberal budget.

Of the rich, by the rich, for the rich.

Thomas Coughlan: Why Govt's hard tack right in Budget is a challenge for Labour

OPINION: The Government shows its colours – and why Labour is in trouble.

www.nzherald.co.nz

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You would have hated the last line in that article:

The $155b in borrowing racked up by the Wellbeing Budgets is not so easily got rid of.’

Record increase in taxes, massive increases in debt under Labours wellness budgets with worse social outcomes is your preferred far left way?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Prioritising welfare, health, education, environment and law and order is hard right, neoliberal, by the rich and for the rich?

If that’s the case I’m all in!

They're not prioritizing welfare, health, education or environment. They're running all of those down

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

They're not prioritizing welfare, health, education or environment. They're running all of those down

The stats show the increase over the past 2 years since labours last budget: welfare nationals spending 12.5% more than Labour spent; health up 9%, education up 6.1%, environment up 13.8%.

Facts are facts even when they are inconvenient - keep spreading the far left propaganda though… it just undermines credibility when the mainstream media show facts saying otherwise.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Corruption, chaos and economic damage

Investment Boost: Govt's ticking fiscal time bomb

Analysis: If the Investment Boost tax deductions run to $10 billion, or even $100 billion, it's all good for growth, the Government insists.

newsroom.co.nz

‘Labour’s finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds agrees, saying Investment Boost is a “good measure because it helps businesses to reinvest in their business”.

‘United States, United Kingdom, Australia, Germany and Canada as examples of other nations running similar schemes with positive economic results.’

Is this another one of those pro National articles you post without reading the content

Nationals got another 3 years locked in I reckon!

 

[MaybeTop8]

The stats show the increase over the past 2 years since labours last budget: welfare nationals spending 12.5% more than Labour spent; health up 9%, education up 6.1%, environment up 13.8%.

Facts are facts even when they are inconvenient - keep spreading the far left propaganda though… it just undermines credibility when the mainstream media show facts saying otherwise.

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You're posting a graphic comparing the current coalition's last two budgets. Not Labour.

 

[MaybeTop8]

‘Labour’s finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds agrees, saying Investment Boost is a “good measure because it helps businesses to reinvest in their business”.

‘United States, United Kingdom, Australia, Germany and Canada as examples of other nations running similar schemes with positive economic results.’

Is this another one of those pro National articles you post without reading the content

Nationals got another 3 years locked in I reckon!

Try and be honest please wiz. Read the full article.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Try and be honest please wiz. Read the full article.

As anyone in business knows, depreciation is recovered when you sell the asset for a profit, so it’s a zero sum game long term.

Boost in the short term, non issue in the long term.

A reporter without much idea, preaching to the uninformed

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

You're posting a graphic comparing the current coalition's last two budgets. Not Labour.

Funny way to run things down:​

Record investment in health delivery​

“Budget 2025 provides a $7 billion increase in Vote Health operating funding over the forecast period. This includes the $1.37 billion per annum increase to Health New Zealand’s baseline – bringing total health spending in 2025/26 to $32.7 billion,” Mr Brown says.

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/record-investment-health-delivery#:~:text=“Budget%202025%20provides%20a%20%247,billion%2C”%20Mr%20Brown%20says.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Funny way to run things down:​

Record investment in health delivery​

“Budget 2025 provides a $7 billion increase in Vote Health operating funding over the forecast period. This includes the $1.37 billion per annum increase to Health New Zealand’s baseline – bringing total health spending in 2025/26 to $32.7 billion,” Mr Brown says.

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/record-investment-health-delivery#:~:text=“Budget%202025%20provides%20a%20%247,billion%2C”%20Mr%20Brown%20says.

Address your previous comment about the graphic that you seem to be attributing to Labour incorrectly please?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Address your previous comment about the graphic that you seem to be attributing to Labour incorrectly please?

The graph is the increase in budgets since Labour was in govt. The increase in the 2 years National has done their budgets.

Not attributing to Labour. This is the increase in govt budgets since Labour. Not hard to understand really

Instead of me doing all the work and posting multiple sources, post some hard data with facts and figures from a reputable source showing your claimed decrease in funding!

 

[MaybeTop8]

The graph is the increase in budgets since Labour was in govt. The increase in the 2 years National has done their budgets.

Not attributing to Labour. This is the increase in govt budgets since Labour. Not hard to understand really

Instead of me doing all the work and posting multiple sources, post some hard data with facts and figures from a reputable source showing your claimed decrease in funding!

No it's not. It's your choice to do what you do, but stupidity for me to keep going with this.

 

[Damo]

The stats show the increase over the past 2 years since labours last budget: welfare nationals spending 12.5% more than Labour spent; health up 9%, education up 6.1%, environment up 13.8%.

You literally said this, when it's between the coalitions two budgets not between Labours and the coalitions budget?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

You literally said this, when it's between the coalitions two budgets not between Labours and the coalitions budget?

Ok, so the figures are twice as good then. If that’s the way you read it, it’s even better

welfare up 12.5%
health up 9%
education up 6.1%
environment up 13.8%.

In 1 year! Amazing investment and definitely not running things down!

 

[Damo]

Ok, so the figures are twice as good then. If that’s the way you read it, it’s even better

welfare up 12.5%
health up 9%
education up 6.1%
environment up 13.8%.

In 1 year! Amazing investment and definitely not running things down!

It's literally what it is bro, not the way I read it. Presenting it the way you did is wrong.
Not arguing that it's not a good thing though, because it is.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Ok, so the figures are twice as good then. If that’s the way you read it, it’s even better

welfare up 12.5%
health up 9%
education up 6.1%
environment up 13.8%.

In 1 year! Amazing investment and definitely not running things down!

Okay, so you've been completely wrong in the presentation of this - any apology? After all, more than once you have accused me of being a conspiracy theorist and spreading disinformation. Without basis or proof either. Like I say, you do you, but at least try and be honest.

 

[MaybeTop8]

View: https://bsky.app/profile/marcdaalder.bsky.social/post/3lpukhgiy7s2d

 

[Bay39er]

As anyone in business knows, depreciation is recovered when you sell the asset for a profit, so it’s a zero sum game long term.

... preaching to the uninformed

Just expand on this theory please @wizard of Tauranga

 

[MaybeTop8]

As anyone in business knows, depreciation is recovered when you sell the asset for a profit, so it’s a zero sum game long term.

Boost in the short term, non issue in the long term.

A reporter without much idea, preaching to the uninformed

Again, not addressing the actual article content and the issues raised by the reporter.

Then slandering that reporter with no factual basis.