Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[MaybeTop8]

Interesting that the very politicians getting upset at the scrapping of the SmokeFree legalisation are the same ones getting upset that some beneficiaries are going to be receiving bank cards which will restrict what items can be brought on them.... i.e. food and not for booze or smokes. Oh, the games politicians play.

How would you like someone telling you what you can and can't buy though miket12? Those enforcing this pretend to be libertarian for themselves and authoritarian for the lower class. It's about control.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

If this has pissed you off, you'd hate to know that there's a MBIE working group currently looking at a minimum solar system per new build dwelling for the next lot of changes being considered for H1 Energy efficiency of the acceptable solutions to the NZBC. Wait for incoming fire from @MrFrankWhite over that one.

Haha solar panels would be fine if the powers that be acknowledged the inherent risks and built the grid around massive swings of intermittent energy. Alas they haven't and now Australia is staring at a Feed-in-charge for solar

 

[MrFrankWhite]

How would you like someone telling you what you can and can't buy though miket12? Those enforcing this pretend to be libertarian for themselves and authoritarian for the lower class. It's about control.

Once again, look at the empirical evidence in Australia. Libertarianism only works if you are able to comprehend the concept

 

[MaybeTop8]

Once again, look at the empirical evidence in Australia. Libertarianism only works if you are able to comprehend the concept

Once you comprehend science and climate change, and cut out the conspiracist fascism let's talk then

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Once you comprehend science and climate change, and cut out the conspiracist fascism let's talk then

Says the guy who doesn’t read the articles he posts as has to get them explained to him like a child

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Wayne Brown continuing to be based

 

[miket12]

How would you like someone telling you what you can and can't buy though miket12? Those enforcing this pretend to be libertarian for themselves and authoritarian for the lower class. It's about control.

Wasn't the SmokeFree legislation doing precisely that by saying people form a certain age could never buy cigarettes? Really good then, in your eyes, that the Atlas run ACT Party got rid of it?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Wasn't the SmokeFree legislation doing precisely that by saying people form a certain age could never buy cigarettes? Really good then, in your eyes, that the Atlas run ACT Party got rid of it?

No. Smoking, vaping is vile - I'd love to see it gone. Also not good is the corruption driven by Big Tobacco and enabled by this government through NZ First and Casey Costello.

But of course the wider issue is being utterly spiteful and punitive on the poor yet again, while extracting wealth upwards at a rate of knots. It's a war on the poor, which will ultimately extend to all of us.

Those preaching less government are forcing authoritarian diktats on the poor. Yet again.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

No. Smoking, vaping is vile - I'd love to see it gone. Also not good is the corruption driven by Big Tobacco and enabled by this government through NZ First and Casey Costello.

But of course the wider issue is being utterly spiteful and punitive on the poor yet again, while extracting wealth upwards at a rate of knots. It's a war on the poor, which will ultimately extend to all of us.

Those preaching less government are forcing authoritarian diktats on the poor. Yet again.

Of course that’s the side you take. Others would say that certain demographics need more of a helping hand to make good decisions. They’re a caring bunch this coalition.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Of course that’s the side you take. Others would say that certain demographics need more of a helping hand to make good decisions. They’re a caring bunch this coalition.

Of course that's the side you take.

There's a certain demographic that needs a good taxing that's for sure

 

[MaybeTop8]

Good to see a push back


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[Mr. Brownstone]

Of course that's the side you take.

There's a certain demographic that needs a good taxing that's for sure

Once again zero original thought displayed.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Utter economic mismanagement apart from, of course, enriching the elite few


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[MaybeTop8]

Once again zero original thought displayed.

Excellent self reflection Mr Brownstone, nice to see.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Good to see a push back


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The unofficial committee is rounded out with former MPs Jackie Blue, Jo Hayes and Belinda Vernon from National, Nanaia Mahuta, Lianne Dalziel, Steve Chadwick and Lynne Pillay from Labour, Ria Bond from New Zealand First and Sue Bradford from the Greens. All are working on a 'pro bono' - unpaid - basis.


The jokes write themselves “wHY arE wE PAId LESs?”

 

[MaybeTop8]

 

[MaybeTop8]

Hideous economic managers

Nicola Willis's Debt Already Higher Than All 6 Years of Ardern Government

In September 2023, Nicola Willis and Grant Robertson joined Q&A to discuss finances and budgets.

mountaintui.substack.com

 

[MaybeTop8]

Great to see the standards lifted and the slumlords driven out - https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/cant...landlords-flood-the-market-with-rentals-47580

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

No. Smoking, vaping is vile - I'd love to see it gone. Also not good is the corruption driven by Big Tobacco and enabled by this government through NZ First and Casey Costello.

But of course the wider issue is being utterly spiteful and punitive on the poor yet again, while extracting wealth upwards at a rate of knots. It's a war on the poor, which will ultimately extend to all of us.

Those preaching less government are forcing authoritarian diktats on the poor. Yet again.

Intergenerational welfare dependence is vile.

This isn’t going to affect people on welfare looking for a job, it’s a last resort punitive approach for those not interested in contributing to society while they live off it.

This isn’t the poor or disadvantaged. This is the losers.

How would you like someone telling you what you can and can't buy though miket12?

That’s exactly the effect excess tax does. It limits what I can and can’t buy to pay for the people that I support but don’t want any consequences…

 

[MaybeTop8]

Intergenerational welfare dependence is vile.

This isn’t going to affect people on welfare looking for a job, it’s a last resort punitive approach for those not interested in contributing to society while they live off it.

This isn’t the poor or disadvantaged. This is the losers.


That’s exactly the effect excess tax does. It limits what I can and can’t buy to pay for the people that I support but don’t want any consequences…