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It's always someone else's fault.... the last government spent the first three years blaming the previous National govt. then 2 1/2 years blaming COVID and 6 months blaming Jacinda.

Politics 101.... always blame someone else for the bad and always take credit for the good (even if it's actually caused by someone else). Pissed me off when National MP's and Ministers at the re-opening of the state highway through the Coromandel when the work was 95% completed by the previous government/NZTA.

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This sort of thing pisses me right off….. they had six years to comply to the Healthy Homes standards but have waited till the last minute to give notice. Why wait so long? No doubt to keep on collecting rent till the last moment.

TBH, it’s a feeble excuse to say they couldn’t comply when so many other landlords have.

Napier’s Victoria Masonic Flats to be demolished to meet Healthy Homes standards, tenants given 90 days’ notice​


As many as 30 pensioners are looking for new homes after being given 90 days to vacate one of Hawke’s Bay‘s oldest pensioner villages so that it can be rebuilt.

Landlords and charitable trust the Napier District Masonic Trust says the notices were prompted by the need to comply with Healthy Homes legislation by July 1.

Residents of Napier’s Victoria Masonic Flats, off Morris Spence Ave, Onekawa, were told on Tuesday, April 29, the flats had to be vacated by the end of July.

The trust hopes to have the new village built within 12 months.

Most residents who spoke with Hawke’s Bay Today, but declined to be publicly identified, are annoyed about the “sudden” nature of the announcement and worried about their prospects going into winter during a nationwide housing crisis.

They had been aware the trust was investigating its options, but one said the notice came as “a bit of a shock”.

Another, who believed he would be “all right”, said “it all starts from now” but he worried for others, including some long-term residents who might not have family in the region.

“Napier is my home and I don’t want to have to leave,” said another, who has lived in the city more than 25 years and didn’t know what options he has.

The trust, which provides about 300 beds in rentals and care facilities in Napier, was faced with bringing the flats up to healthy homes standards by July 1.

CEO Vicki Lee said Tuesday was “not a good day” for anyone, including the trust, which was committed to providing affordable, healthy homes for pensioners on lower incomes.

It was a “terrible” decision to have to make, she said, adding it would have been a sudden “realisation” of what was happening, rather than a complete surprise.

Renovation to meet the standards was explored in depth, she said, but it was ultimately determined to be impractical and not viable across the site of 51 single- and double-bedroom flats, built mainly in the early 1960s.

Residents would have noticed site testing taking place and that about a quarter of the flats had not been re-let since becoming vacant, pending the decisions.

Lee said of the perceived lack of notice: “We couldn’t tell them what was happening, because we didn’t know ourselves.”

Assessment included whether some units could remain in use during construction around them and whether the site was still suitable for such a village.

Lee said that whatever had been decided would have meant residents being out of the homes during winter.

“We have to comply, just like any other landlord,” she said.

Residents can apply for other trust flats as they become available and the trust has also referred them to government agencies and Napier City Council, which is selling 72 of its 377-strong housing stock and focusing on pensioner flats.

A village manager will be on site this week to discuss wellbeing and prospects with residents, many of whom had already visited agency offices and were awaiting interviews.

While they have until July 31 to vacate, those remaining after June 30 will not have to pay rent.

Discussions with residents had also included what could be done to bring the flats up to healthy homes standards, Lee said.

Napier City councillor Maxine Boag, who holds the council housing portfolio and whose Nelson Park Ward includes the village, is worried that in a housing crisis, vulnerable people could struggle to find “parallel” affordable accommodation.

The Ministry of Housing and Urban Development said it was not aware of other similar situations (involving group tenancies), pointing out that the landlords had had six years to prepare for the compliance deadline, but that no survey on preparedness had been done since January last year.

 
This sort of thing pisses me right off….. they had six years to comply to the Healthy Homes standards but have waited till the last minute to give notice. Why wait so long? No doubt to keep on collecting rent till the last moment.

TBH, it’s a feeble excuse to say they couldn’t comply when so many other landlords have.

Napier’s Victoria Masonic Flats to be demolished to meet Healthy Homes standards, tenants given 90 days’ notice​


As many as 30 pensioners are looking for new homes after being given 90 days to vacate one of Hawke’s Bay‘s oldest pensioner villages so that it can be rebuilt.

Landlords and charitable trust the Napier District Masonic Trust says the notices were prompted by the need to comply with Healthy Homes legislation by July 1.

Residents of Napier’s Victoria Masonic Flats, off Morris Spence Ave, Onekawa, were told on Tuesday, April 29, the flats had to be vacated by the end of July.

The trust hopes to have the new village built within 12 months.

Most residents who spoke with Hawke’s Bay Today, but declined to be publicly identified, are annoyed about the “sudden” nature of the announcement and worried about their prospects going into winter during a nationwide housing crisis.

They had been aware the trust was investigating its options, but one said the notice came as “a bit of a shock”.

Another, who believed he would be “all right”, said “it all starts from now” but he worried for others, including some long-term residents who might not have family in the region.

“Napier is my home and I don’t want to have to leave,” said another, who has lived in the city more than 25 years and didn’t know what options he has.

The trust, which provides about 300 beds in rentals and care facilities in Napier, was faced with bringing the flats up to healthy homes standards by July 1.

CEO Vicki Lee said Tuesday was “not a good day” for anyone, including the trust, which was committed to providing affordable, healthy homes for pensioners on lower incomes.

It was a “terrible” decision to have to make, she said, adding it would have been a sudden “realisation” of what was happening, rather than a complete surprise.

Renovation to meet the standards was explored in depth, she said, but it was ultimately determined to be impractical and not viable across the site of 51 single- and double-bedroom flats, built mainly in the early 1960s.

Residents would have noticed site testing taking place and that about a quarter of the flats had not been re-let since becoming vacant, pending the decisions.

Lee said of the perceived lack of notice: “We couldn’t tell them what was happening, because we didn’t know ourselves.”

Assessment included whether some units could remain in use during construction around them and whether the site was still suitable for such a village.

Lee said that whatever had been decided would have meant residents being out of the homes during winter.

“We have to comply, just like any other landlord,” she said.

Residents can apply for other trust flats as they become available and the trust has also referred them to government agencies and Napier City Council, which is selling 72 of its 377-strong housing stock and focusing on pensioner flats.

A village manager will be on site this week to discuss wellbeing and prospects with residents, many of whom had already visited agency offices and were awaiting interviews.

While they have until July 31 to vacate, those remaining after June 30 will not have to pay rent.

Discussions with residents had also included what could be done to bring the flats up to healthy homes standards, Lee said.

Napier City councillor Maxine Boag, who holds the council housing portfolio and whose Nelson Park Ward includes the village, is worried that in a housing crisis, vulnerable people could struggle to find “parallel” affordable accommodation.

The Ministry of Housing and Urban Development said it was not aware of other similar situations (involving group tenancies), pointing out that the landlords had had six years to prepare for the compliance deadline, but that no survey on preparedness had been done since January last year.

Healthy homes is relatively simple or else there are exemptions if it’s impractical to meet them?

How can an a/c unit, a few fans and some insulation take 12 months to do?
 
Be prepared for the mother of all austerity budgets those of you still in NZ.

Willis will blame Trump and the dumbfucks will believe her.
Last week: ‘the government is halving its operating allowance - the new money it has available to spend at the May Budget - from $2.4 billion to $1.3b.’

So still INCREASING spending by a small $1.3b.

The definition of austerity is reduced budgets not spending growth…

 
Last week: ‘the government is halving its operating allowance - the new money it has available to spend at the May Budget - from $2.4 billion to $1.3b.’

So still INCREASING spending by a small $1.3b.

The definition of austerity is reduced budgets not spending growth…

You really have no clue wiz
 
Last week: ‘the government is halving its operating allowance - the new money it has available to spend at the May Budget - from $2.4 billion to $1.3b.’

So still INCREASING spending by a small $1.3b.

The definition of austerity is reduced budgets not spending growth…

She's burning through our money faster than Grant Robertson, are you as irate as I am Wiz
 
Last week: ‘the government is halving its operating allowance - the new money it has available to spend at the May Budget - from $2.4 billion to $1.3b.’

So still INCREASING spending by a small $1.3b.

The definition of austerity is reduced budgets not spending growth…

For sure. How can you say the last government was wasting money then spend $1.3B more?
Where is all the money from the layoffs and budget cuts?
 
For sure. How can you say the last government was wasting money then spend $1.3B more?
Where is all the money from the layoffs and budget cuts?
SOME departments go down but the key ones like health and education go up. Same as SOME within health get laid off doing back office stuff. While more get hired at the front.

Reprioritisation to what get better results.

Eg health - all the lefties talk about cutting budgets and cherry pick negativity - reality increasing budgets:

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SOME departments go down but the key ones like health and education go up. Same as SOME within health get laid off doing back office stuff. While more get hired at the front.

Reprioritisation to what get better results.

Eg health - all the lefties talk about cutting budgets and cherry pick negativity - reality increasing budgets:

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Time will tell if it's a rebalancing or just a juggling act, remains to be seen how many of those admin health workers were necessary and have to be rehired eventually.

I like that education portal for parents to engage with the curriculum, very good idea. I may be a little biased though, I have a burning love for Erica Stanford.
 
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Time will tell if it's a rebalancing or just a juggling act, remains to be seen how many of those admin health workers were necessary and have to be rehired eventually.

I like that education portal for parents to engage with the curriculum, very good idea. I may be a little biased though, I have a burning love for Erica Stanford.
You have her private email address I assume?

If not just let us know and someone will provide you with it
 
It doesn't matter what party is in. We will have these silly mistakes. The other side will complain about it and then we will get silly mistakes when they come in.

I'm surprised we haven't had any headlines about Shane Jones having a conflict of interest as a couple of relatives are sitting next to him a some meeting that he hasn't declared. Or telling people he didn't realize they were there even though they were sitting next to them. We seem to get a few of these whenever NZ First are in government.

Luxon not being fussed on Stanfords email use. That is a different attitude to when he was in opposition.

It does show the quality or lack of quality of our politicians.

She should be able to access her email from home.

In government roles you need to get clearance as you are dealing with sensitive information. The IT policies are built around this to protect the information. The weakest link is often the individual.
 
SOME departments go down but the key ones like health and education go up. Same as SOME within health get laid off doing back office stuff. While more get hired at the front.

Reprioritisation to what get better results.

Eg health - all the lefties talk about cutting budgets and cherry pick negativity - reality increasing budgets:

View attachment 12907
Pretty damning for both parties. Nearly double health spend in 10 years and worse outcomes. COVID had a hand in that i guess but why hasn't spend gone down after?
National cutting 100+ jobs in data and AI which seems daft, should be investing in those to cut costs. Although I heard from one of the big consultancies last week that they got a bunch more work in that space so must think they can get more by paying consultants, or is that just optics to look austere?
 
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