Ask Wiz that. It's pure ignorance and pandering to the rednecks.
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No I’m asking you. If you don’t have the courage to answer, just say so.
Once again you are getting the majority confused with your definition of far right or whatever daily insult you decide to label those that differ from your view of the world.
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Well, hardly daily recently. Haven't even mentioned the right in this one, but since you have, you're correct. It's right wing bullshit.
There is no public transport. The road lobbies and the far right government have shut it downDemocracy mate, the locals polled overwhelmingly support reverting back to the higher speeds that were removed without their input.
“The majority of feedback received from the community and road users was not in support of retaining the lower speed of 80km/h for this route, with 61% in favour of the speed reverting to 100km/h.”
Labour got voted out because of communist stuff like this. Shower head 2 moment when brand new motorways engineered for 110kmh are set to 100… just because.
If you can’t any handle risk, stick to public transport.
SunLive - Public feedback leads to SH2 speed limit increase - The Bay's News First
Public feedback leads to SH2 speed limit increasewww.sunlive.co.nz
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Come on, red neck in the age of Trump is right wing… they just don’t necessarily realise it.
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If 10,000,000 vehicle trips use a road a year, waste 10 minutes of their life after reducing the speed by 20% then the accumulative lose of time is 100 million minutes. This equates to 3 life times opportunity cost lost (at the average lifespan) that the lower speed limits ‘loses’ and is an unseen safer road, hidden road toll.
Ie for the above road you could have a higher speed limit and have 3 road toll deaths per year and still come out with savings in lifetimes over lower speed limits.
You don’t cares about millions of 10 minutes but everyone notices a fatal death. But they are equally important.
The opportunity cost of safety is sometimes more than the benefit saved. And we all make those calculations on a micro level every time we chose to drive.
I say the community can make their own decisions, not the govt in regards what is safe and acceptable risk. And the community has spoken.
Feel free to drive at the old ‘safer’ speed limits - there’s nothing stopping you. My grandma does it all the time
If you are really worried about safety, ban push bikes - they have the highest death rate per km travelled.
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My kids just took the bus from Tauranga to Auckland yesterday, back for university.
What are you talking about?
An essay on the theoretical rather than the realityIf 10,000,000 vehicle trips use a road a year, waste 10 minutes of their life after reducing the speed by 20% then the accumulative lose of time is 100 million minutes. This equates to 3 life times opportunity cost lost (at the average lifespan) that the lower speed limits ‘loses’ and is an unseen safer road, hidden road toll.
Ie for the above road you could have a higher speed limit and have 3 road toll deaths per year and still come out with savings in lifetimes over lower speed limits.
You don’t cares about millions of 10 minutes but everyone notices a fatal death. But they are equally important.
The opportunity cost of safety is sometimes more than the benefit saved. And we all make those calculations on a micro level every time we chose to drive.
I say the community can make their own decisions, not the govt in regards what is safe and acceptable risk. And the community has spoken.
Feel free to drive at the old ‘safer’ speed limits - there’s nothing stopping you. My grandma does it all the time
If you are really worried about safety, ban push bikes - they have the highest death rate per km travelled.
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Reality is over half the fatal accidents are caused by alcohol and/or drugs.
Most accidents are caused by poor attention rather than speed, which only limits the damage rather than being a root cause.
We’re having to slow everyone down so a few drugged out idiots don’t kill themselves…
Road deaths in NZ from January to Nov 2024 - Advance Diagnostics
The Role of Drugs and Alcohol in Road Fatalities in New Zealand Impaired driving remains one of the leading causes of road deaths in New Zealand, with concerning trends linked to the use of drugs and alcohol. Recent data highlights an increase in fatalities where drugs or alcohol were significant…
www.advancediagnostics.co.nz
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Pure wiz fantasy
This gives a disturbing, sad and quite frankly batshit crazy window into the conspiracy world in nz. Some of the facets of this bullshit get sometimes alluded to here sadly
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The best thing to do if you meet or see a conspiracist is to give them a wide berth. Not even worth acknowledging them
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Reality is over half the fatal accidents are caused by alcohol and/or drugs.
Most accidents are caused by poor attention rather than speed, which only limits the damage rather than being a root cause.
We’re having to slow everyone down so a few drugged out idiots don’t kill themselves…
Road deaths in NZ from January to Nov 2024 - Advance Diagnostics
The Role of Drugs and Alcohol in Road Fatalities in New Zealand Impaired driving remains one of the leading causes of road deaths in New Zealand, with concerning trends linked to the use of drugs and alcohol. Recent data highlights an increase in fatalities where drugs or alcohol were significant…
Imaginative argument, you come up with some real black is white shit there.
Bro, three things kill people, you do not have to straw man them to try make three into two....maths ehoa maths.
And when you cannot avoid them (like if they are family members like my family) then you should not try to argue with them.
Mental health training teaches you not to argue with people who have delusions. By arguing with them you are attacking them.
Attacking their personal sense of identity and safety, and causing them harm.
On the other hand you should not actively agree with them because that is also dangerous.
You are quite right about avoiding where possible, and if you cannot, be supportive without agreeing or disagreeing.
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They're killing our kids too though. I don't know the answer to the root cause, drugs & drunk driving, poor attention, but limiting the damage seems sensible enough?
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If you apply logic say to Wizzards argument that the problem is substance use....then logic would tell you a lower speed limit for the drunk and stoned drivers is probably a good start eh.
It's been telling that reduced speed limits have coincided with a lower road toll, if that is a true correlation. Reduced productivity being the price apparently. An acceptable road toll usually doesn't include our own families.
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