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'Know all the facts': Seymour hits back at PM after his Polkinghorne letter judged 'ill-advised'
The Act leader has not held back in his response to the Prime Minister's criticism.www.nzherald.co.nz
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Seymour wrote letter supporting Polkinghorne during police probe into wifeβs death
Act leader claimed police went 'beyond their brief' when investigating eye surgeon.
βAt the police station Mr Polkinghorne was asked what he thought was to be some supplementary questions, but this evolved into a prolonged interview lasting some four hours,β wrote Seymour on behalf of the doctor.
He also alleged police did not inform the doctor of his legal rights.
The Epsom MP also criticised police for contacting Polkinghorneβs private psychologist to ask for his diagnosis and appointment schedule.
βAgain, this is highly inappropriate I would have thought and quite invasive to Mr Polkinghorneβs privacy and welfare,β wrote Seymour.
The Act leader continued, criticising police for denying family access to Hannaβs toxicology and autopsy results, and for asking Counties Manukau health officials to also withhold a review of Hannaβs workload from her family.
Seymourβs letter also claimed police informed the Medical Council that they had found illicit drugs in the doctorβs home. βOwnership of the drugs had not been established,β he wrote.
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Yes, all to do with the accused rights.Seymour wrote letter supporting Polkinghorne during police probe into wifeβs death
Act leader claimed police went 'beyond their brief' when investigating eye surgeon.www.nzherald.co.nz
βAt the police station Mr Polkinghorne was asked what he thought was to be some supplementary questions, but this evolved into a prolonged interview lasting some four hours,β wrote Seymour on behalf of the doctor.
He also alleged police did not inform the doctor of his legal rights.
The Epsom MP also criticised police for contacting Polkinghorneβs private psychologist to ask for his diagnosis and appointment schedule.
βAgain, this is highly inappropriate I would have thought and quite invasive to Mr Polkinghorneβs privacy and welfare,β wrote Seymour.
Act leader David Seymour was critical of police for denying family access to Pauline Hanna's toxicology and autopsy results. Photo / Supplied
The Act leader continued, criticising police for denying family access to Hannaβs toxicology and autopsy results, and for asking Counties Manukau health officials to also withhold a review of Hannaβs workload from her family.
Seymourβs letter also claimed police informed the Medical Council that they had found illicit drugs in the doctorβs home. βOwnership of the drugs had not been established,β he wrote.
So where did he try to influence prosecution decisions?
Non event.
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The denial is strong in this one.
Must be pretty disappointing for police to have a senior politician criticising their practices in what seems like a murky case to say the leastSeymour wrote letter supporting Polkinghorne during police probe into wifeβs death
Act leader claimed police went 'beyond their brief' when investigating eye surgeon.
βAt the police station Mr Polkinghorne was asked what he thought was to be some supplementary questions, but this evolved into a prolonged interview lasting some four hours,β wrote Seymour on behalf of the doctor.
He also alleged police did not inform the doctor of his legal rights.
The Epsom MP also criticised police for contacting Polkinghorneβs private psychologist to ask for his diagnosis and appointment schedule.
βAgain, this is highly inappropriate I would have thought and quite invasive to Mr Polkinghorneβs privacy and welfare,β wrote Seymour.
Act leader David Seymour was critical of police for denying family access to Pauline Hanna's toxicology and autopsy results. Photo / Supplied
The Act leader continued, criticising police for denying family access to Hannaβs toxicology and autopsy results, and for asking Counties Manukau health officials to also withhold a review of Hannaβs workload from her family.
Seymourβs letter also claimed police informed the Medical Council that they had found illicit drugs in the doctorβs home. βOwnership of the drugs had not been established,β he wrote.
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Well it depends. Did they read him his rights, mistreat him and try to access his private medical records or not?
No oneβs answered if he was actually justified in being involved or not? THAT is actually the role of electorate MPβs in a democracy.
Whatβs clear to me is it was politically daft but was aimed at perceived breaches of rights rather than influencing prosecution decisions.
If I was being mistreated by police I would hope Seymour was my MP and actually did his job rather than any MPβs from the left!
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As noted earlier, I think Seymour should have given it a swerve.
Having said that, he wasnβt the police minister at the time (therefore not to be confused with his current role), and the guy ended up not guilty (but was obviously guilty)
Seymour should learn his lesson about what sort of person he wants his brand associated with. I think the biggest fallout will be in his electorate, where Polkinghorne is a pariah
Having said that, he wasnβt the police minister at the time (therefore not to be confused with his current role), and the guy ended up not guilty (but was obviously guilty)
Seymour should learn his lesson about what sort of person he wants his brand associated with. I think the biggest fallout will be in his electorate, where Polkinghorne is a pariah
With it coming to light of him being a political donor, it does give a perception that you can buy a politician to be in your corner as I donβt think Seymour would do this for just anyone
Speaking of which, (and this is rumour), but I heard the big driver of Actβs βno reasonβ dismissal of $180k+ earners was thanks to billionaire Nick Mowbray requesting it
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Certainly seems Hipkins got one thing right when he predicted that Seymour and Winnie would run rings around Luxon
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Is Stuff saying Labour are Centre?Stuff
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Not much in these polls, interesting itβs the second one to show enough for opposition to govern now though
Australia have 10% GST and Pay no tax on the first 18,000. That is way better for the people at the bottom who are struggling! Even under Labour the thought of lower taxes would make them vomit!
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Stuffs is far left media so even the Greens sit centre for itIs Stuff saying Labour are Centre?
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If Seymour has done wrong this is pretty damning then:
In relation to the election and data misuse claims surrounding the mΔori party
βThe partyβs leaders wrote to authorities last year asking for the investigation βin order to prove our innocenceβ
High powered party leaders instructing the investigation to βprove innocenceβ is 10x worse than what Seymour did and setting clear outcome expectations before the investigation.
β¦ but I wonβt expect the left on here or media to call for TPM resignations because thatβs not how the political games work
In relation to the election and data misuse claims surrounding the mΔori party
βThe partyβs leaders wrote to authorities last year asking for the investigation βin order to prove our innocenceβ
High powered party leaders instructing the investigation to βprove innocenceβ is 10x worse than what Seymour did and setting clear outcome expectations before the investigation.
β¦ but I wonβt expect the left on here or media to call for TPM resignations because thatβs not how the political games work
Asking for an investigation in order to prove innocence isn't the gotcha you are trying to present here.If Seymour has done wrong this is pretty damning then:
In relation to the election and data misuse claims surrounding the mΔori party
βThe partyβs leaders wrote to authorities last year asking for the investigation βin order to prove our innocenceβ
High powered party leaders instructing the investigation to βprove innocenceβ is 10x worse than what Seymour did and setting clear outcome expectations before the investigation.
β¦ but I wonβt expect the left on here or media to call for TPM resignations because thatβs not how the political games work
Its literally asking for independant verification of them not doing anything wrong? Is that not a good thing?
βAbsolutely an errorβ: Advisor on Seymourβs legal advice to victim
Ruth Money criticised David Seymour for overstepping in two cases.
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What did these experts say about TPM asking for an investigation to βprove they are innocentβ rather than asking for an investigation to βsee what has happened?ββAbsolutely an errorβ: Advisor on Seymourβs legal advice to victim
Ruth Money criticised David Seymour for overstepping in two cases.
Oh thatβs right the media have an angle and TPM isnβt the target
This sort of unbalanced witch hunt just exposes the media and shows their bias.
Guarantee nothing happens and itβs last weeks news by next week More lefty media non-events
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So if Seymour asked the police to vertify that Polkington was innocent thatβs ok?
TPM needed to ask for an investigation to see what happened not to prove innocence.
MPβs can advocate for people rights (as Seymour did) but canβt say anything to do with the outcome (as TPM did).
It would be like Luxon asking for an investigation into the navy sinking to prove the captain is innocent - you just donβt do that and he would be crucifiedβ¦ but TMP isnβtβ¦
And suddenly it comes out years later? Non event political hit job
