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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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Just following what's happened in NZ, Australia, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, US, Canada, UK etc etc over the last 45 years. It's all there.
I find it difficult to see where Prisoner, sorry, President Trump fits in.... a lot of the definitions of him show has actions/thoughts to be a neo-lib (less tax, less government, private property rights, control over judiciary) but then his views on gobalisation and protectionism seem very much at odds to the classical neo-lib ideology. Maybe it's just that the orange tanning solution has entered his brain!!
 

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I find it difficult to see where Prisoner, sorry, President Trump fits in.... a lot of the definitions of him show has actions/thoughts to be a neo-lib (less tax, less government, private property rights, control over judiciary) but then his views on gobalisation and protectionism seem very much at odds to the classical neo-lib ideology. Maybe it's just that the orange tanning solution has entered his brain!!
It seems to be very much moving to the oligarch/authoritarian/libertarian toxic mix.....but project 2025 shows the blueprint - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do
 
It’s all irrelevant if it’s not a public asset in the first place. Go use a train.

Do you want to claim my house for public ownership as well?
I'd like to buy your house's water infrastructure and lease it back to you at exorbitant cost, at the same time as investing nothing back into it so that when it fails you'll still have to pay me for the next 50 years.

Oh and when you're bankrupt I'll buy your house for nothing.
 
I'd like to buy your house's water infrastructure and lease it back to you at exorbitant cost, at the same time as investing nothing back into it so that when it fails you'll still have to pay me for the next 50 years.

Oh and when you're bankrupt I'll buy your house for nothing.
Well unfortunately for you, with competition and alternative suppliers, I will just use someone else to supply my water infrastructure and you will have to compete with them and have a very competitive service and pricing point to win my business back 😉
 
Well unfortunately for you, with competition and alternative suppliers, I will just use someone else to supply my water infrastructure and you will have to compete with them and have a very competitive service and pricing point to win my business back 😉
But you live so far away from the rest of the world there is no competition. Plus the person you sold out to will have a monopoly, even though they're not supposed to, but their rich mates in government have ensured that's the case :)

Time to step away from the keyboard I think.
 
But you live so far away from the rest of the world there is no competition. Plus the person you sold out to will have a monopoly, even though they're not supposed to, but their rich mates in government have ensured that's the case :)

Time to step away from the keyboard I think.
My own water tanks and sewage trucked out 😉 always a way.
 
But you live so far away from the rest of the world there is no competition. Plus the person you sold out to will have a monopoly, even though they're not supposed to, but their rich mates in government have ensured that's the case :)

Time to step away from the keyboard I think.
Admit it mate, if it was centrally planned there wouldn’t be a water supply if you lived far away 😉
 
I'd like to buy your house's water infrastructure and lease it back to you at exorbitant cost, at the same time as investing nothing back into it so that when it fails you'll still have to pay me for the next 50 years.

Oh and when you're bankrupt I'll buy your house for nothing.
Cooked him.
 
Not just theirs, India's and China's as well. Moving from central planning to free market
China? You could say some parts are free market, but it's not a free market system - a state-capitalism model? You could argue they have one of the more successful capitalist models. Although I'm def not advocating for authoritarianism. Is there a sector they aren't dominating?
 
China? You could say some parts are free market, but it's not a free market system - a state-capitalism model? You could argue they have one of the more successful capitalist models. Although I'm def not advocating for authoritarianism. Is there a sector they aren't dominating?
Nope just providing counter point that the last 45 years of the neo liberal agenda according to @MaybeTop8 has led to unprecedented levels of safety and comfort.

I am far more left on some topics and far more right on others.
 
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