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[miket12]

EVs currently pay RUC
$76/1000kms

I’ve never looked into the figures before. Is that based on the weight of the vehicle or do all EV’s pay the same amount? To lazy too Google it myself.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Kind of like being caught between a rock and a hard place.... at least with a petrol tax, you have to pay it when you fill up your car but, those who can least afford it in cars which aren't that fuel efficient subsidise those who can afford a more modern, fuel efficient car because those with the less efficient cars have to buy more petrol to travel the same distance.

But, you bring in road user charges and unless you're going to expect mechanics when it's WOF time (that is if the car even has a WOF), or an AA clerk when it's time to renew the Rego (if the car is registered) or the petrol station attendant (but not if you use pay at the pump) is expected to check to see if someone has purchased their RUC's, it's going to be a nightmare to enforce.

Buggered if I know what the answer is but it seems paying at the pump is a lot easier to administer even if it isn't exactly a "fair system".

Any talk about tolls is generally meant by calls of privatisation by stealth so that doesn't seem to be the answer either.

Dallas has a system where, on their freeways, at peak times, some of the lanes are tolled while others aren't.... so motorists have a choice, pay a toll and get home quicker or stay in the untolled lanes and get stuck in traffic. The money from the tolled sections is then used to pay for the next new piece of freeway to be built.

The majority of motorways or expressways in Europe are tolled and privately owned. Govt gets a share (France)

Recently did Paris to Bordeaux in 5.5 hours, toll roads all the way and 130kmh speed limit. Approx 600km.
Also, no trucks over 7 tonne I think, on French roads on Sunday so that's the best day for long distance travelling.
Problem here is finding roads for privatising and tolling. Really only the major state highways and arterial routes into say Auckland and Wellington would have the traffic numbers to make it worthwhile

 

[Bobbysea]

I’ve never looked into the figures before. Is that based on the weight of the vehicle or do all EV’s pay the same amount? To lazy too Google it myself.

This is the same as what I pay on my Nissan diesel ute

 

[Bay39er]

I’ve never looked into the figures before. Is that based on the weight of the vehicle or do all EV’s pay the same amount? To lazy too Google it myself.

All full EVs the same

 

[defensivebomb]

The majority of motorways or expressways in Europe are tolled and privately owned. Govt gets a share (France)

Recently did Paris to Bordeaux in 5.5 hours, toll roads all the way and 130kmh speed limit. Approx 600km.
Also, no trucks over 7 tonne I think, on French roads on Sunday so that's the best day for long distance travelling.
Problem here is finding roads for privatising and tolling. Really only the major state highways and arterial routes into say Auckland and Wellington would have the traffic numbers to make it worthwhile

Privatisation! For the rich, by the rich

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

So media quoting AA policy adviser who states that RUC’s will be a good outcome for multi vehicle owners because they only get charged on the distance they travel rather than each time they fill up… wtf??

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

So media quoting AA policy adviser who states that RUC’s will be a good outcome for multi vehicle owners because they only get charged on the distance they travel rather than each time they fill up… wtf??

More for the restoration on cars you don’t use than the petrol tax

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

More for the restoration on cars you don’t use than the petrol tax

But obviously whether you pay based on distance or petrol consumption - there’s no benefit of being a multi-vehicle owner

 

[MaybeTop8]

Bluesky

bsky.app

 

[MaybeTop8]

What a horrible far right government this is.

So bad for all New Zealanders

The Post

www.thepost.co.nz

 

[MaybeTop8]

 

[MaybeTop8]

Still crap and getting crapper.. Thanks far right government of the rich, by the rich and for the rich.


View: https://bsky.app/profile/musicalchairs.bsky.social/post/3lvrikj73v22i

 

[MaybeTop8]

And the trickle down effect - we all get shit while the rich and their mates get richer.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

More privatisation by stealth

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

What a horrible far right government this is.

So bad for all New Zealanders

The Post

www.thepost.co.nz

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Oh well enjoy their second term the best you can because the chances of the other mob getting voted in are remote.

 

[defensivebomb]

Still crap and getting crapper.. Thanks far right government of the rich, by the rich and for the rich.


View: https://bsky.app/profile/musicalchairs.bsky.social/post/3lvrikj73v22i

One of the reasons the 2025 jobs number (yellow line) has had to decline so much is because the 2023 jobs numbers (pink line) was so high. Inflation was unstainably high, and to cool the economy, the interest rates were pumped up until they finally took effect - in businesses' profitability and decisions to employ people.

As a result, employment has been tracking down. Yin and yang

Too high employment is unsustainable. Too low is no good either. You get swings with the economy. The good times can't last forever. Just like the bad times.

The government can definitely do better.

But drawing conclusions over the graph is a bit hard to do as everyone knew employment would take a hit when rates went up - that was kinda the point. And it is now happening. Probably a bit too much but it's like turning a massive ship around

 

[defensivebomb]

And the trickle down effect - we all get shit while the rich and their mates get richer.

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Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

More privatisation by stealth

If you care for the planet, use your car less. Or car pool

If you want to keep poisoning Mother Earth, keep using your car as you do, and complain about RUCs

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Bluesky

bsky.app

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She or her photographer sold the picture to a stock photo site.
While counting her cash she or Rafael forgot to read the fine print which says the photo site can do whatever they want with the image and are licensed to do so, including on selling it to anyone who wants to use it

 

[MaybeTop8]

If you care for the planet, use your car less. Or car pool

If you want to keep poisoning Mother Earth, keep using your car as you do, and complain about RUCs

Provide public transport. Which is against this shit government's anti community anti public transport ideology.

It's all about choice right? The right taketh away our common good choices.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Privatisation! For the rich, by the rich

Exactly and boy does it make long distance or city entry/exit driving so much quicker and easier.

Think of the productivity gains

 

[MaybeTop8]

A voice of integrity on the right

Former Attorney-General criticises Marine and Coastal Areas Act changes

The National Attorney-General when the law covering customary maritime rights for Māori was enacted by Parliament criticises planned coalition Govt restrictions as 'foolish' and 'extremely harmful'

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