Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[defensivebomb]

That argument will probably fall on deaf ears though. Most people shove absolute rubbish into their mouths 24/7 and so they feel personally attacked when it gets pointed out.

Especially the fat ones

 

[John Nick]

Especially the fat ones

Hey hey.

 

[Noitall]

Hey hey.

It’s Saturday

 

[Worried2Death]

seems logical but counterintuitively:

In a situation with an over abundance of food availability and growing obesity problems, imagine the obesity levels if we had nutritionally optimal food!

When I started eating healthier as I got older, all those nutritious vegetables, vitamens and minerals went straight to my stomach. I had to switch in some maccas to balance it out as a weight control tool

Doesn't feeding them plastic slop defeat the purpose of getting nutrients into kids brains so they can get out of the poverty cycle? We'll end up with another generation of drug-addled morons.

 

[Worried2Death]

Incredible, fuck what a game!

 

[Worried2Death]

Incredible, fuck what a game!

Wrong thread dickhead

 

[dean]

The new regulations have been added since the additional cruise ships are visiting here.
The problem has always been here with cargo ships now having to be inspected also.
The problem should have been considered years ago.
We are playing catch up

My understanding is visiting pleasure boats are taken out of the water when they arrive in NZ for hull inspection and cleaning. Costs a few grand but our coastal waters need protection.

 

[John Nick]

My understanding is visiting pleasure boats are taken out of the water when they arrive in NZ for hull inspection and cleaning. Costs a few grand but our coastal waters need protection.

I presume pleasure vessels are treated the same as commercial ships.
Several of my clients are registered to do bio-security hull inspections & cleaning.
This is done with both divers & CCTV equipment under very strict DOC regulations.
This is obviously expensive but these Cruise ship are carrying hundreds of passengers paying big money.
They are always complaining about the added costs but our shores need protecting.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I presume pleasure vessels are treated the same as commercial ships.
Several of my clients are registered to do bio-security hull inspections & cleaning.
This is done with both divers & CCTV equipment under very strict DOC regulations.
This is obviously expensive but these Cruise ship are carrying hundreds of passengers paying big money.
They are always complaining about the added costs but our shores need protecting.

Just a random though, is there some sort of massive car wash type machine that every cruise ship/ container ship can sail through that scrubbed and decontaminated the hull rather?

 

[John Nick]

Just a random though, is there some sort of massive car wash type machine that every cruise ship/ container ship can sail through that scrubbed and decontaminated the hull rather?

No is the simple answer
The biggest problem is that 40% of the world shipping fleet are Flag of Convenience ships.
Means they are registered through another country ( mainly Panama Liberia ) to restrict their needs for regulations.
Hides ownership and taxes cheaper wages and conditions health and safety etc etc.
These are mainly cargo vessels and are trying to dodge their responsibilities

 

[John Nick]

Just a random though, is there some sort of massive car wash type machine that every cruise ship/ container ship can sail through that scrubbed and decontaminated the hull rather?

The hulls are cleaned by various methods.
Divers with high pressure water blasters mainly.
Also there's a thermal treatment that kills the organisms and they wash off in the ocean. Don't know a lot about it but apparently it works.
Only a small amount of cruises have been affected and the Shipping companies are becoming increasingly vigilant to make sure the abide by the regulations

 

[miket12]

Better than expected unemployment figures means most bank economists are now picking an OCR rate reduction of 0.50% instead of 0.75% later this month.

Mega rate cut off the table after better-than-expected unemployment figures

Some described the new job data as 'the last shoe to drop' after tough times.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[dean]

Better than expected unemployment figures means most bank economists are now picking an OCR rate reduction of 0.50% instead of 0.75% later this month.

Mega rate cut off the table after better-than-expected unemployment figures

Some described the new job data as 'the last shoe to drop' after tough times.

www.nzherald.co.nz

And the banks wont drop the rates after 0.50 reduction because they had already priced in a 0.75 reduction.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Better than expected unemployment figures means most bank economists are now picking an OCR rate reduction of 0.50% instead of 0.75% later this month.

Mega rate cut off the table after better-than-expected unemployment figures

Some described the new job data as 'the last shoe to drop' after tough times.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Great economic management getting inflation under control AND keeping more people in jobs AND giving people tax relief!

Governing for the the average NZer, and making the the average NZer better off

 

[miket12]

Great economic management getting inflation under control AND keeping more people in jobs AND giving people tax relief!

Governing for the the average NZer, and making the the average NZer better off

TBH, I think a lot of people would actually be hoping for a larger drop in interest rates. Although the benefit of them will take at least six months to really make an impact as those who just re-fixed recently get the benefits of the rates reduction.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

TBH, I think a lot of people would actually be hoping for a larger drop in interest rates. Although the benefit of them will take at least six months to really make an impact as those who just re-fixed recently get the benefits of the rates reduction.

The reserve bank and government are trying for a soft landing, a little longer recovery, with less job losses and slow predictable interest rate changes.

Interest rates will trend downwards. A massive 0.75 jump is extreme and more for sudden shocks (or the reserve bank stuffing up big time).

 

[miket12]

The reserve bank and government are trying for a soft landing, a little longer recovery, with less job losses and slow predictable interest rate changes.

Interest rates will trend downwards. A massive 0.75 jump is extreme and more for sudden shocks (or the reserve bank stuffing up big time).

The reason why the RBNZ is considering large cuts is because, compared to other countries, they royally stuffed up by going up to fast and then letting the interest rates stay up for too long. They totally missed out on a "soft landing" by pushing the economy into recession. Other central banks have achieved a "soft landing" by raising interest rates just enough and slowly enough to reduce inflation without causing a recession.

But GrantR did "reward" Orr by extending his contract.... dumb, just dumb!!!!

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

The reason why the RBNZ is considering large cuts is because, compared to other countries, they royally stuffed up by going up to fast and then letting the interest rates stay up for too long. They totally missed out on a "soft landing" by pushing the economy into recession. Other central banks have achieved a "soft landing" by raising interest rates just enough and slowly enough to reduce inflation without causing a recession.

But GrantR did "reward" Orr by extending his contract.... dumb, just dumb!!!!

The ‘path of least regrets’ was a term used to basically say your not going to take any risk, make judgement decision and use your skill and experience to navigate whats before you but instead just take the safest no risk, blunt options.

Very conservative, rear facing, data based solution that missed what was happening in real time.

Hindsight was shown it to be a mistake as other countries have been more proactive and ahead of the curve.

Was this a similar economic response to the no risk lockdown ones?

 

[Inruin]

Great economic management getting inflation under control AND keeping more people in jobs AND giving people tax relief!

Governing for the the average NZer, and making the the average NZer better off

Add in the EU deal which kicked off earlier this year (Labour signed this up) and the recent free trade deals with the UAE and the Gulf Co-operation Council which should see us growing the 'pie' and things are starting to look a little rosier than they have been.

 

[miket12]

The ‘path of least regrets’ was a term used to basically say your not going to take any risk, make judgement decision and use your skill and experience to navigate whats before you but instead just take the safest no risk, blunt options.

Very conservative, rear facing, data based solution that missed what was happening in real time.

Hindsight was shown it to be a mistake as other countries have been more proactive and ahead of the curve.

Was this a similar economic response to the no risk lockdown ones?

You'd have thought, that when they saw other central banks weren't going so big, so quickly in terms of rates increases that they would have slowed the increases down but instead they kept blindly following the "data" without considering the consequences. And GrantR was there championing the increases because it would finally bring the rapid increases in house values down. Yet, other countries which also had experienced huge jumps in property values also saw them fall by orchestrating a "soft landing". Too much focus on the housing market and not enough consideration about the impact of the wider economy in my opinion.