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Is that enough to negate some of the changes that will effect productivity the other way? I'm not sure it will
Only time will tell. Personally I see us heading in a better direction now in this regard than previously. Appreciate others see it differently.
 
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In a world full of dumb ideas, ACT's proposal to allow builders to opt out of applying for building consents if they can arrange long term insurance is right there at the top of the heap!!!!

Insurers will be passing on the liability for faulty workmanship back to the builder when say a house starts leaking. The builder will then dissolve his company Crap Builders 2024 Ltd to start Shit Builders 2025 Ltd leaving the homeowner with a useless pile of rubbish. At least now, if there's an issue with a building and the builders shut the business down, the homeowner can go after the council who issued the consent, inspected the building and issued a CCC.... it's called Last Man Standing and is a safeguard for the owners.

What happens if the insurance company folds?

Leaky homes happened WHEN consents were issued, and inspections made. What the hell does Seymour think will happen without those safeguards?

And for those who think ACT may never be in the position to push this though, think Charter Schools and SmokeFree and the Gun Lobby!!!

Stupid.... just plain STUPID!!!!
 
In a world full of dumb ideas, ACT's proposal to allow builders to opt out of applying for building consents if they can arrange long term insurance is right there at the top of the heap!!!!

Insurers will be passing on the liability for faulty workmanship back to the builder when say a house starts leaking. The builder will then dissolve his company Crap Builders 2024 Ltd to start Shit Builders 2025 Ltd leaving the homeowner with a useless pile of rubbish. At least now, if there's an issue with a building and the builders shut the business down, the homeowner can go after the council who issued the consent, inspected the building and issued a CCC.... it's called Last Man Standing and is a safeguard for the owners.

What happens if the insurance company folds?

Leaky homes happened WHEN consents were issued, and inspections made. What the hell does Seymour think will happen without those safeguards?

And for those who think ACT may never be in the position to push this though, think Charter Schools and SmokeFree and the Gun Lobby!!!

Stupid.... just plain STUPID!!!!
Ideologically blind stupid. Some might even say corrupt
 
Just another government minister acting undemocratically while completely ignoring formal advice & unable to back up the policy position...

 
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Luxon has sold his Wellington apartment and has moved into Premier House after it's received a facelift north of $170,000. It's been estimated that it costs over $120,000 PA to run Premier House. Soon there will be the outrage, just as there was when Luxon received an allowance for his apartment that he's now costing the taxpayer a huge amount to live there.... despite the fact that Jacinda and Helen both lived then when they were also in Wellington.
 
Luxon has sold his Wellington apartment and has moved into Premier House after it's received a facelift north of $170,000. It's been estimated that it costs over $120,000 PA to run Premier House. Soon there will be the outrage, just as there was when Luxon received an allowance for his apartment that he's now costing the taxpayer a huge amount to live there.... despite the fact that Jacinda and Helen both lived then when they were also in Wellington.
It was more the fact he was crying about wasteful government spending & yet smashing every "entitlement he's entitled to".

Every country has a PM or Prime Ministers residence with up keep.

But does every country have a PM who has a freehold apartment that the tax payer ends up paying for him to live in.
 
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It was more the fact he was crying about wasteful government spending & yet smashing every "entitlement he's entitled to".

Every country has a PM or Prime Ministers residence with up keep.

But does every country have a PM who has a freehold apartment that the tax payer ends up paying for him to live in.
Another thing Muldoon cocked up royally..... getting rid of Vogel House and replacing it with Premier House.
 
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And another one. Seems to be a common place.

Worth commenting on to promote how clear, concise and factual this article is, as well as highlighting how poor Simeon Brown's decision making and policies are. Negative, regressive and they will cost lives.
 
In a world full of dumb ideas, ACT's proposal to allow builders to opt out of applying for building consents if they can arrange long term insurance is right there at the top of the heap!!!!

Insurers will be passing on the liability for faulty workmanship back to the builder when say a house starts leaking. The builder will then dissolve his company Crap Builders 2024 Ltd to start Shit Builders 2025 Ltd leaving the homeowner with a useless pile of rubbish. At least now, if there's an issue with a building and the builders shut the business down, the homeowner can go after the council who issued the consent, inspected the building and issued a CCC.... it's called Last Man Standing and is a safeguard for the owners.

What happens if the insurance company folds?

Leaky homes happened WHEN consents were issued, and inspections made. What the hell does Seymour think will happen without those safeguards?

And for those who think ACT may never be in the position to push this though, think Charter Schools and SmokeFree and the Gun Lobby!!!

Stupid.... just plain STUPID!!!!
A few comments:

1 - don’t we have qualifications and registration for builders now so they can’t fold a company, walk away and restart again as easily, which wasn’t the case during peak leaky building? Do you think this will have an effect?

2 - most houses are designed by architects/ designers with the builders just using what’s the highly qualified architect/ designer specifies. The leaky building issues were mainly due to monolithic cladding, lack of eaves, untreated timber, etc (all designer specified - not builders). Councils were involved then and it still happened. I kind of feel it was all systemic and nothing could have been done to averted it as experienced, knowledgeable, independent and highly qualified people oversaw it all happen. A sharp industry wide learning curve. With these issues now known, are we building better? Are engineers, architects and a lot more highly qualified builders enough safeguards?

3 - I feel with less compliance, and less double and sometimes triple checking, I could see house build costs dropping maybe 20%? With those sort of savings and a more highly skilled and knowledgeable workforce, a small amount of shoddy work is more than compensated by overall costs savings, benefits to first home buyers, reduction in homelessness and all the social issues driven from lower property ownership.

Our double gold plating of housing is costing to much in negative social issues.
 
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A few comments:

1 - don’t we have qualifications and registration for builders now so they can’t fold a company, walk away and restart again as easily, which wasn’t the case during peak leaky building? Do you think this will have an effect?

2 - most houses are designed by architects/ designers with the builders just using what’s the highly qualified architect/ designer specifies. The leaky building issues were mainly due to monolithic cladding, lack of eaves, untreated timber, etc (all designer specified - not builders). Councils were involved then and it still happened. I kind of feel it was all systemic and nothing could have been done to averted it as experienced, knowledgeable, independent and highly qualified people oversaw it all happen. A sharp industry wide learning curve. With these issues now known, are we building better? Are engineers, architects and a lot more highly qualified builders enough safeguards?

3 - I feel with less compliance, and less double and sometimes triple checking, I could see house build costs dropping maybe 20%? With those sort of savings and a more highly skilled and knowledgeable workforce, a small amount of shoddy work is more than compensated by overall costs savings, benefits to first home buyers, reduction in homelessness and all the social issues driven from lower property ownership.

Our double gold plating of housing is costing to much in negative social issues.
The last time the "red tape" was cut - the cost of which has affected millions of lives and is still ongoing

The 'Rottenomics' of the $47 billion leaky homes market failure​


 
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